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You are looking at around 3 rx 570s for  1 radeon 7.


In what sense? 

Price-wise - at least in US, you can get 4x 570-8GB for a single RVII. 

H/r wise, ehh...  about 10% difference using efficient settings - ~90MHs for the 3x570s vs 82MHs for the RVII. 

Power - not even close when tuned for efficiency: 300w+ for 3x570s, 215w for RVII.



so you are looking at over 2 years roi before the gpus have paid themselfes  at the current situation.


Not sure how that math works out - I'm seeing ~4yrs breakeven, even at my numbers (and that's not including rig cost):

https://whattomine.com/coins/151-eth-ethash?utf8=%E2%9C%93&hr=82.0&p=215.0&fee=1.0&cost=0.1&hcost=700&commit=Calculate

That being said, I would assume that with time we will see miner optimizations making CN the better algo for RVII, just as it is for pretty much every other recent AMD GPU.  With that, we may get closer to your 2yr number.
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How many btc per day are you getting with 6 of these cards ? I am asking in a more specific way about nicehash. I have not the money yet but thinking to build a rig with my credit card and paying monthly. I need to know the btc return daily if anyone can.

You are looking at around 3 rx 570s for  1 radeon 7.

so 90mh/s  per card , for 6 cards  = 530 mh/s

power lets say 295 watts per card @ .10 cents per kwh

Atm you are looking at something like  7 usd per day mining eth, after power cost less then 2 dollars per day.

800 euro per card,  4800 euro  for 6 card.

so you are looking at over 2 years roi before the gpus have paid themselfes  at the current situation.

I did say atleast wait for navi and see how those cards perform before making a choice.
Just my 10 cents on the matter!

not to mention if you're buying in Euros your power ain't gonna be .10 cents. In the UK it's more like .20pence, which eats all the profit.
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How many btc per day are you getting with 6 of these cards ? I am asking in a more specific way about nicehash. I have not the money yet but thinking to build a rig with my credit card and paying monthly. I need to know the btc return daily if anyone can.

You are looking at around 3 rx 570s for  1 radeon 7.

so 90mh/s  per card , for 6 cards  = 530 mh/s

power lets say 295 watts per card @ .10 cents per kwh

Atm you are looking at something like  7 usd per day mining eth, after power cost less then 2 dollars per day.

800 euro per card,  4800 euro  for 6 card.

so you are looking at over 2 years roi before the gpus have paid themselfes  at the current situation.

I did say atleast wait for navi and see how those cards perform before making a choice.
Just my 10 cents on the matter!
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How many btc per day are you getting with 6 of these cards ? I am asking in a more specific way about nicehash. I have not the money yet but thinking to build a rig with my credit card and paying monthly. I need to know the btc return daily if anyone can.
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finally ordered Powercolor VII few days back. Will separate a rig and put this card alone. Plan is to mine ETH with it. One of my criteria was to have least noisy card. From RX 580, I have found powercolor red devil to be least noisy and low temperature. Anyone have any recommendation between powercolor/sapphire or AMD version of Radeon VII ?

They are all exactly the same, there is no custom card.

Distributors can rebuild or repackage their cards. Some do custom work by adding triple fans or using the standard set of double fans. So i disagee, the base GPU is the same model, but the distributor makes it unique/different.

From my experience, my Powercolor red devils (was running rx470s back then) were silent and never had any issues whatsoever.
What he is saying is that there is - currently - only one base model to choose from. There are only different brands selling the exact same reference design for now.

When AIBs have developped custom boards we'll see differences between them. But for now they're all the same card, regardless of which brand you go for.
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finally ordered Powercolor VII few days back. Will separate a rig and put this card alone. Plan is to mine ETH with it. One of my criteria was to have least noisy card. From RX 580, I have found powercolor red devil to be least noisy and low temperature. Anyone have any recommendation between powercolor/sapphire or AMD version of Radeon VII ?

They are all exactly the same, there is no custom card.

Distributors can rebuild or repackage their cards. Some do custom work by adding triple fans or using the standard set of double fans. So i disagee, the base GPU is the same model, but the distributor makes it unique/different.

From my experience, my Powercolor red devils (was running rx470s back then) were silent and never had any issues whatsoever.
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finally ordered Powercolor VII few days back. Will separate a rig and put this card alone. Plan is to mine ETH with it. One of my criteria was to have least noisy card. From RX 580, I have found powercolor red devil to be least noisy and low temperature. Anyone have any recommendation between powercolor/sapphire or AMD version of Radeon VII ?

They are all exactly the same, there is no custom card.



Hello, what is your process to test and validate an OC and / or UV for mining?

Thanks!
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finally ordered Powercolor VII few days back. Will separate a rig and put this card alone. Plan is to mine ETH with it. One of my criteria was to have least noisy card. From RX 580, I have found powercolor red devil to be least noisy and low temperature. Anyone have any recommendation between powercolor/sapphire or AMD version of Radeon VII ?
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Okey that's not good. Maybe if you have another card you can fix it, but I doubt you have one spare Smiley

To everyone that have Vega's: No need to mess with BIOSes on Vega 56/64 OR Vega VII, just leave it.

To be clear, there was a thing where you could flash the 56 with a 64 bios, which peeps claimed gave better clocks but lower power. But most of that was achievable without the risk.

Is anybody mining with a vii at the moment, and what power vs hashrates are you getting? Is it more efficient than simply running two 56s?


56 -> 64 flash allows running higher mem clocks, but definitely not at lower power.  In fact it increases mem voltage by 100+mv.  It's not very useful if you are looking for efficient settings.

As for VII mining, CN and/or MW will probably be ideal in the future as miners are optimized, but currently it seems to me that ETH is best, as h/r is ~double a vega, w/ less than +50% power use.   I'm running ~ 215w (190 before including idle) for 82MHs - vs 158w for 45MHs on a 64.  CNV4 h/r is only ~50% better than vega atm.

What software are you using to mine CN-R on the Vega VII?

I've not personally run it yet, as all reports I've seen are of 3.2 kh/s max - that's on SRB.  Teamredminer is my goto for CN, but they have yet to optimize VII, and all indications are that it runs more like 2.5 kh/s.  I just plugged in my first VII a couple days ago, so still have some comps to do.

Keep us updated.  I tried a few miners real quick but nothing was stable, so I switched to mining Beam.  I suspect CN-R is the way to go with these GPUs, but it seems like the software has a little ways to go yet.
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Okey that's not good. Maybe if you have another card you can fix it, but I doubt you have one spare Smiley

To everyone that have Vega's: No need to mess with BIOSes on Vega 56/64 OR Vega VII, just leave it.

To be clear, there was a thing where you could flash the 56 with a 64 bios, which peeps claimed gave better clocks but lower power. But most of that was achievable without the risk.

Is anybody mining with a vii at the moment, and what power vs hashrates are you getting? Is it more efficient than simply running two 56s?


56 -> 64 flash allows running higher mem clocks, but definitely not at lower power.  In fact it increases mem voltage by 100+mv.  It's not very useful if you are looking for efficient settings.

As for VII mining, CN and/or MW will probably be ideal in the future as miners are optimized, but currently it seems to me that ETH is best, as h/r is ~double a vega, w/ less than +50% power use.   I'm running ~ 215w (190 before including idle) for 82MHs - vs 158w for 45MHs on a 64.  CNV4 h/r is only ~50% better than vega atm.

What software are you using to mine CN-R on the Vega VII?

I've not personally run it yet, as all reports I've seen are of 3.2 kh/s max - that's on SRB.  Teamredminer is my goto for CN, but they have yet to optimize VII, and all indications are that it runs more like 2.5 kh/s.  I just plugged in my first VII a couple days ago, so still have some comps to do.
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Okey that's not good. Maybe if you have another card you can fix it, but I doubt you have one spare Smiley

To everyone that have Vega's: No need to mess with BIOSes on Vega 56/64 OR Vega VII, just leave it.

To be clear, there was a thing where you could flash the 56 with a 64 bios, which peeps claimed gave better clocks but lower power. But most of that was achievable without the risk.

Is anybody mining with a vii at the moment, and what power vs hashrates are you getting? Is it more efficient than simply running two 56s?


56 -> 64 flash allows running higher mem clocks, but definitely not at lower power.  In fact it increases mem voltage by 100+mv.  It's not very useful if you are looking for efficient settings.

As for VII mining, CN and/or MW will probably be ideal in the future as miners are optimized, but currently it seems to me that ETH is best, as h/r is ~double a vega, w/ less than +50% power use.   I'm running ~ 215w (190 before including idle) for 82MHs - vs 158w for 45MHs on a 64.  CNV4 h/r is only ~50% better than vega atm.

What software are you using to mine CN-R on the Vega VII?
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I can't get my vega vii to work with my nvidia cards 2080 rtx.

When i added the vega vii it initially detected the unkown hardware,  I flashed the bios with v106 x64,  Then i installed the latest drivers adrenaline 19.3.2 march 14th.

My device manager finally read it as vega vii but had this symbol "!" ,  So i thought it just needed a reboot,  I rebooted it and now i can't get anything to load up,  Not even my motherboard settings.   The screen shows a large underscore "_"  on the boot screen   .  And just stays stuck there and does not load windows or anything.

Any ideas on what I should try? Thanks


I would say that You made mistake swapping sequence of two steps: driver install and flash.
You should change positions of Your cards to boot system with RTX and flash again Vega with Your original VBIOS (You did backup, don't You?).
Than You can try flashing with new VBIOS (if it is proper one for Your manufacturer/model).

I didn't do a backup. I'm an amd noob. Looks like I bricked my Vega vii on day 1 Sad  . 

So i unplugged the riser on the amd radeon so i can get back into windows.   Replugged the riser back in hoping the hardware will get detected.  Unfortunetly it does not detect.  I tried to reinstall amd drivers and it can't detect hardware anymore probably b/c I ran that bios v106 x64 before installing drivers.  It won't allow me to install drivers unless it detects hardware.

What should i do next? return the card back to amazon? RMA it?  This sucks now I know why I always stayed loyal to team green.

Why did you flash another BIOS onto the card if I may ask? I was running RTX 2080 Ti + Vega VII in the same computer for a while, but I put my VII in my dedicated mining rig after a while. No issues at all running them together.

I think you can get original BIOS from your vendor as well. What vendor do you have? Maybe I can get you an original BIOS, I have Sapphire one.

I have an MSI vega vii. 
https://us.msi.com/Graphics-card/support/Radeon-VII-16G#down-driver&Win10%2064

To answer your question Why did I flash another bios onto the card?   

I was not aware I was flashing another bios.  I thought i was upgrading the bios by using the official amd bios updater, I felt like this was the best way to go,  Even the msi says its using the offical amd bios version.   So i double clicked v106 from the official amd website and bricked my card and become no longer detectable by bootup or windows,  Before i flashed it was detectable as unknown graphics hardware in windows. Now after flashing to v106 windows device manager just shows nothing or blank like the hardware does not exist.



On the msi website for vega vii it states that its just using the official amd bios version. v105

After I installed v106 my card can no longer be detected at bootup pci slot screen and no longer detected in the device manager.

Since it can not be detected the hardware it won't allow me to install drivers or update the bios.  Drivers say Error 173 amd graphics hardware not found.  Also the flasher doesn't do anything v105, v106 since it can't find hardware.

I tried atikmdag-patcher 1.4.6 and it says failed to locate driver file.


Any last tips before I return this back to amazon on monday? I have a biostar b250+ motherboard if that matters.



Okey that's not good. Maybe if you have another card you can fix it, but I doubt you have one spare Smiley

To everyone that have Vega's: No need to mess with BIOSes on Vega 56/64 OR Vega VII, just leave it.

As op stated, it was an official BIOS update for the VII - it fixes some fan issues among other things, so i wouldn't exactly say there's 'no need' for the update.  Is it critical? no...




Any last tips before I return this back to amazon on monday? I have a biostar b250+ motherboard if that matters.


I don't have VII, but any chance that it has dual VBIOS? Small switch for VBIOS switching? If Yes, second VBIOS should be in place safe from first flash and should be recognized when booted with.

No dual bios on VIIs yet.




Okey that's not good. Maybe if you have another card you can fix it, but I doubt you have one spare Smiley

To everyone that have Vega's: No need to mess with BIOSes on Vega 56/64 OR Vega VII, just leave it.

To be clear, there was a thing where you could flash the 56 with a 64 bios, which peeps claimed gave better clocks but lower power. But most of that was achievable without the risk.

Is anybody mining with a vii at the moment, and what power vs hashrates are you getting? Is it more efficient than simply running two 56s?


56 -> 64 flash allows running higher mem clocks, but definitely not at lower power.  In fact it increases mem voltage by 100+mv.  It's not very useful if you are looking for efficient settings.

As for VII mining, CN and/or MW will probably be ideal in the future as miners are optimized, but currently it seems to me that ETH is best, as h/r is ~double a vega, w/ less than +50% power use.   I'm running ~ 215w (190 before including idle) for 82MHs - vs 158w for 45MHs on a 64.  CNV4 h/r is only ~50% better than vega atm.
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I can't get my vega vii to work with my nvidia cards 2080 rtx.

When i added the vega vii it initially detected the unkown hardware,  I flashed the bios with v106 x64,  Then i installed the latest drivers adrenaline 19.3.2 march 14th.

My device manager finally read it as vega vii but had this symbol "!" ,  So i thought it just needed a reboot,  I rebooted it and now i can't get anything to load up,  Not even my motherboard settings.   The screen shows a large underscore "_"  on the boot screen   .  And just stays stuck there and does not load windows or anything.

Any ideas on what I should try? Thanks


I would say that You made mistake swapping sequence of two steps: driver install and flash.
You should change positions of Your cards to boot system with RTX and flash again Vega with Your original VBIOS (You did backup, don't You?).
Than You can try flashing with new VBIOS (if it is proper one for Your manufacturer/model).

I didn't do a backup. I'm an amd noob. Looks like I bricked my Vega vii on day 1 Sad  .  

So i unplugged the riser on the amd radeon so i can get back into windows.   Replugged the riser back in hoping the hardware will get detected.  Unfortunetly it does not detect.  I tried to reinstall amd drivers and it can't detect hardware anymore probably b/c I ran that bios v106 x64 before installing drivers.  It won't allow me to install drivers unless it detects hardware.

What should i do next? return the card back to amazon? RMA it?  This sucks now I know why I always stayed loyal to team green.

Why did you flash another BIOS onto the card if I may ask? I was running RTX 2080 Ti + Vega VII in the same computer for a while, but I put my VII in my dedicated mining rig after a while. No issues at all running them together.

I think you can get original BIOS from your vendor as well. What vendor do you have? Maybe I can get you an original BIOS, I have Sapphire one.

I have an MSI vega vii.  
https://us.msi.com/Graphics-card/support/Radeon-VII-16G#down-driver&Win10%2064

To answer your question Why did I flash another bios onto the card?  

I was not aware I was flashing another bios.  I thought i was upgrading the bios by using the official amd bios updater, I felt like this was the best way to go,  Even the msi says its using the offical amd bios version.   So i double clicked v106 from the official amd website and bricked my card and become no longer detectable by bootup or windows,  Before i flashed it was detectable as unknown graphics hardware in windows. Now after flashing to v106 windows device manager just shows nothing or blank like the hardware does not exist.



On the msi website for vega vii it states that its just using the official amd bios version. v105

After I installed v106 my card can no longer be detected at bootup pci slot screen and no longer detected in the device manager.

Since it can not be detected the hardware it won't allow me to install drivers or update the bios.  Drivers say Error 173 amd graphics hardware not found.  Also the flasher doesn't do anything v105, v106 since it can't find hardware.

I tried atikmdag-patcher 1.4.6 and it says failed to locate driver file.


Any last tips before I return this back to amazon on monday? I have a biostar b250+ motherboard if that matters.



Okey that's not good. Maybe if you have another card you can fix it, but I doubt you have one spare Smiley

To everyone that have Vega's: No need to mess with BIOSes on Vega 56/64 OR Vega VII, just leave it.

To be clear, there was a thing where you could flash the 56 with a 64 bios, which peeps claimed gave better clocks but lower power. But most of that was achievable without the risk.

Is anybody mining with a vii at the moment, and what power vs hashrates are you getting? Is it more efficient than simply running two 56s?



Yes I flashed my two Vega 56's to 64 as well. But now you don't need to do that because you just play with power tables.

Well because I want efficency, my VII is hashing 2600 ~ 200 W, so sure it's more efficient than two 56s, but at much higher cost.


Nice one - any idea what your max hash/power was? Very tempted to pull the trigger, but no point if the efficiency isn't decent.  2600/200 isn't too bad...
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Any last tips before I return this back to amazon on monday? I have a biostar b250+ motherboard if that matters.


I don't have VII, but any chance that it has dual VBIOS? Small switch for VBIOS switching? If Yes, second VBIOS should be in place safe from first flash and should be recognized when booted with.
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I can't get my vega vii to work with my nvidia cards 2080 rtx.

When i added the vega vii it initially detected the unkown hardware,  I flashed the bios with v106 x64,  Then i installed the latest drivers adrenaline 19.3.2 march 14th.

My device manager finally read it as vega vii but had this symbol "!" ,  So i thought it just needed a reboot,  I rebooted it and now i can't get anything to load up,  Not even my motherboard settings.   The screen shows a large underscore "_"  on the boot screen   .  And just stays stuck there and does not load windows or anything.

Any ideas on what I should try? Thanks


I would say that You made mistake swapping sequence of two steps: driver install and flash.
You should change positions of Your cards to boot system with RTX and flash again Vega with Your original VBIOS (You did backup, don't You?).
Than You can try flashing with new VBIOS (if it is proper one for Your manufacturer/model).

I didn't do a backup. I'm an amd noob. Looks like I bricked my Vega vii on day 1 Sad  .  

So i unplugged the riser on the amd radeon so i can get back into windows.   Replugged the riser back in hoping the hardware will get detected.  Unfortunetly it does not detect.  I tried to reinstall amd drivers and it can't detect hardware anymore probably b/c I ran that bios v106 x64 before installing drivers.  It won't allow me to install drivers unless it detects hardware.

What should i do next? return the card back to amazon? RMA it?  This sucks now I know why I always stayed loyal to team green.

Why did you flash another BIOS onto the card if I may ask? I was running RTX 2080 Ti + Vega VII in the same computer for a while, but I put my VII in my dedicated mining rig after a while. No issues at all running them together.

I think you can get original BIOS from your vendor as well. What vendor do you have? Maybe I can get you an original BIOS, I have Sapphire one.

I have an MSI vega vii.  
https://us.msi.com/Graphics-card/support/Radeon-VII-16G#down-driver&Win10%2064

To answer your question Why did I flash another bios onto the card?  

I was not aware I was flashing another bios.  I thought i was upgrading the bios by using the official amd bios updater, I felt like this was the best way to go,  Even the msi says its using the offical amd bios version.   So i double clicked v106 from the official amd website and bricked my card and become no longer detectable by bootup or windows,  Before i flashed it was detectable as unknown graphics hardware in windows. Now after flashing to v106 windows device manager just shows nothing or blank like the hardware does not exist.



On the msi website for vega vii it states that its just using the official amd bios version. v105

After I installed v106 my card can no longer be detected at bootup pci slot screen and no longer detected in the device manager.

Since it can not be detected the hardware it won't allow me to install drivers or update the bios.  Drivers say Error 173 amd graphics hardware not found.  Also the flasher doesn't do anything v105, v106 since it can't find hardware.

I tried atikmdag-patcher 1.4.6 and it says failed to locate driver file.


Any last tips before I return this back to amazon on monday? I have a biostar b250+ motherboard if that matters.



Okey that's not good. Maybe if you have another card you can fix it, but I doubt you have one spare Smiley

To everyone that have Vega's: No need to mess with BIOSes on Vega 56/64 OR Vega VII, just leave it.

To be clear, there was a thing where you could flash the 56 with a 64 bios, which peeps claimed gave better clocks but lower power. But most of that was achievable without the risk.

Is anybody mining with a vii at the moment, and what power vs hashrates are you getting? Is it more efficient than simply running two 56s?



Yes I flashed my two Vega 56's to 64 as well. But now you don't need to do that because you just play with power tables.

Well because I want efficency, my VII is hashing 2600 ~ 200 W, so sure it's more efficient than two 56s, but at much higher cost.
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I can't get my vega vii to work with my nvidia cards 2080 rtx.

When i added the vega vii it initially detected the unkown hardware,  I flashed the bios with v106 x64,  Then i installed the latest drivers adrenaline 19.3.2 march 14th.

My device manager finally read it as vega vii but had this symbol "!" ,  So i thought it just needed a reboot,  I rebooted it and now i can't get anything to load up,  Not even my motherboard settings.   The screen shows a large underscore "_"  on the boot screen   .  And just stays stuck there and does not load windows or anything.

Any ideas on what I should try? Thanks


I would say that You made mistake swapping sequence of two steps: driver install and flash.
You should change positions of Your cards to boot system with RTX and flash again Vega with Your original VBIOS (You did backup, don't You?).
Than You can try flashing with new VBIOS (if it is proper one for Your manufacturer/model).

I didn't do a backup. I'm an amd noob. Looks like I bricked my Vega vii on day 1 Sad  .  

So i unplugged the riser on the amd radeon so i can get back into windows.   Replugged the riser back in hoping the hardware will get detected.  Unfortunetly it does not detect.  I tried to reinstall amd drivers and it can't detect hardware anymore probably b/c I ran that bios v106 x64 before installing drivers.  It won't allow me to install drivers unless it detects hardware.

What should i do next? return the card back to amazon? RMA it?  This sucks now I know why I always stayed loyal to team green.

Why did you flash another BIOS onto the card if I may ask? I was running RTX 2080 Ti + Vega VII in the same computer for a while, but I put my VII in my dedicated mining rig after a while. No issues at all running them together.

I think you can get original BIOS from your vendor as well. What vendor do you have? Maybe I can get you an original BIOS, I have Sapphire one.

I have an MSI vega vii.  
https://us.msi.com/Graphics-card/support/Radeon-VII-16G#down-driver&Win10%2064

To answer your question Why did I flash another bios onto the card?  

I was not aware I was flashing another bios.  I thought i was upgrading the bios by using the official amd bios updater, I felt like this was the best way to go,  Even the msi says its using the offical amd bios version.   So i double clicked v106 from the official amd website and bricked my card and become no longer detectable by bootup or windows,  Before i flashed it was detectable as unknown graphics hardware in windows. Now after flashing to v106 windows device manager just shows nothing or blank like the hardware does not exist.



On the msi website for vega vii it states that its just using the official amd bios version. v105

After I installed v106 my card can no longer be detected at bootup pci slot screen and no longer detected in the device manager.

Since it can not be detected the hardware it won't allow me to install drivers or update the bios.  Drivers say Error 173 amd graphics hardware not found.  Also the flasher doesn't do anything v105, v106 since it can't find hardware.

I tried atikmdag-patcher 1.4.6 and it says failed to locate driver file.


Any last tips before I return this back to amazon on monday? I have a biostar b250+ motherboard if that matters.



Okey that's not good. Maybe if you have another card you can fix it, but I doubt you have one spare Smiley

To everyone that have Vega's: No need to mess with BIOSes on Vega 56/64 OR Vega VII, just leave it.

To be clear, there was a thing where you could flash the 56 with a 64 bios, which peeps claimed gave better clocks but lower power. But most of that was achievable without the risk.

Is anybody mining with a vii at the moment, and what power vs hashrates are you getting? Is it more efficient than simply running two 56s?

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