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jr. member
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I can't get my vega vii to work with my nvidia cards 2080 rtx.

When i added the vega vii it initially detected the unkown hardware,  I flashed the bios with v106 x64,  Then i installed the latest drivers adrenaline 19.3.2 march 14th.

My device manager finally read it as vega vii but had this symbol "!" ,  So i thought it just needed a reboot,  I rebooted it and now i can't get anything to load up,  Not even my motherboard settings.   The screen shows a large underscore "_"  on the boot screen   .  And just stays stuck there and does not load windows or anything.

Any ideas on what I should try? Thanks


I would say that You made mistake swapping sequence of two steps: driver install and flash.
You should change positions of Your cards to boot system with RTX and flash again Vega with Your original VBIOS (You did backup, don't You?).
Than You can try flashing with new VBIOS (if it is proper one for Your manufacturer/model).

I didn't do a backup. I'm an amd noob. Looks like I bricked my Vega vii on day 1 Sad  .  

So i unplugged the riser on the amd radeon so i can get back into windows.   Replugged the riser back in hoping the hardware will get detected.  Unfortunetly it does not detect.  I tried to reinstall amd drivers and it can't detect hardware anymore probably b/c I ran that bios v106 x64 before installing drivers.  It won't allow me to install drivers unless it detects hardware.

What should i do next? return the card back to amazon? RMA it?  This sucks now I know why I always stayed loyal to team green.

Why did you flash another BIOS onto the card if I may ask? I was running RTX 2080 Ti + Vega VII in the same computer for a while, but I put my VII in my dedicated mining rig after a while. No issues at all running them together.

I think you can get original BIOS from your vendor as well. What vendor do you have? Maybe I can get you an original BIOS, I have Sapphire one.

I have an MSI vega vii.  
https://us.msi.com/Graphics-card/support/Radeon-VII-16G#down-driver&Win10%2064

To answer your question Why did I flash another bios onto the card?  

I was not aware I was flashing another bios.  I thought i was upgrading the bios by using the official amd bios updater, I felt like this was the best way to go,  Even the msi says its using the offical amd bios version.   So i double clicked v106 from the official amd website and bricked my card and become no longer detectable by bootup or windows,  Before i flashed it was detectable as unknown graphics hardware in windows. Now after flashing to v106 windows device manager just shows nothing or blank like the hardware does not exist.



On the msi website for vega vii it states that its just using the official amd bios version. v105

After I installed v106 my card can no longer be detected at bootup pci slot screen and no longer detected in the device manager.

Since it can not be detected the hardware it won't allow me to install drivers or update the bios.  Drivers say Error 173 amd graphics hardware not found.  Also the flasher doesn't do anything v105, v106 since it can't find hardware.

I tried atikmdag-patcher 1.4.6 and it says failed to locate driver file.


Any last tips before I return this back to amazon on monday? I have a biostar b250+ motherboard if that matters.



Okey that's not good. Maybe if you have another card you can fix it, but I doubt you have one spare Smiley

To everyone that have Vega's: No need to mess with BIOSes on Vega 56/64 OR Vega VII, just leave it.
full member
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I can't get my vega vii to work with my nvidia cards 2080 rtx.

When i added the vega vii it initially detected the unkown hardware,  I flashed the bios with v106 x64,  Then i installed the latest drivers adrenaline 19.3.2 march 14th.

My device manager finally read it as vega vii but had this symbol "!" ,  So i thought it just needed a reboot,  I rebooted it and now i can't get anything to load up,  Not even my motherboard settings.   The screen shows a large underscore "_"  on the boot screen   .  And just stays stuck there and does not load windows or anything.

Any ideas on what I should try? Thanks


I would say that You made mistake swapping sequence of two steps: driver install and flash.
You should change positions of Your cards to boot system with RTX and flash again Vega with Your original VBIOS (You did backup, don't You?).
Than You can try flashing with new VBIOS (if it is proper one for Your manufacturer/model).

I didn't do a backup. I'm an amd noob. Looks like I bricked my Vega vii on day 1 Sad  .  

So i unplugged the riser on the amd radeon so i can get back into windows.   Replugged the riser back in hoping the hardware will get detected.  Unfortunetly it does not detect.  I tried to reinstall amd drivers and it can't detect hardware anymore probably b/c I ran that bios v106 x64 before installing drivers.  It won't allow me to install drivers unless it detects hardware.

What should i do next? return the card back to amazon? RMA it?  This sucks now I know why I always stayed loyal to team green.

Why did you flash another BIOS onto the card if I may ask? I was running RTX 2080 Ti + Vega VII in the same computer for a while, but I put my VII in my dedicated mining rig after a while. No issues at all running them together.

I think you can get original BIOS from your vendor as well. What vendor do you have? Maybe I can get you an original BIOS, I have Sapphire one.

I have an MSI vega vii.  
https://us.msi.com/Graphics-card/support/Radeon-VII-16G#down-driver&Win10%2064

To answer your question Why did I flash another bios onto the card?  

I was not aware I was flashing another bios.  I thought i was upgrading the bios by using the official amd bios updater, I felt like this was the best way to go,  Even the msi says its using the offical amd bios version.   So i double clicked v106 from the official amd website and bricked my card and become no longer detectable by bootup or windows,  Before i flashed it was detectable as unknown graphics hardware in windows. Now after flashing to v106 windows device manager just shows nothing or blank like the hardware does not exist.



On the msi website for vega vii it states that its just using the official amd bios version. v105

After I installed v106 my card can no longer be detected at bootup pci slot screen and no longer detected in the device manager.

Since it can not be detected the hardware it won't allow me to install drivers or update the bios.  Drivers say Error 173 amd graphics hardware not found.  Also the flasher doesn't do anything v105, v106 since it can't find hardware.

I tried atikmdag-patcher 1.4.6 and it says failed to locate driver file.


Any last tips before I return this back to amazon on monday? I have a biostar b250+ motherboard if that matters.

jr. member
Activity: 98
Merit: 6
I can't get my vega vii to work with my nvidia cards 2080 rtx.

When i added the vega vii it initially detected the unkown hardware,  I flashed the bios with v106 x64,  Then i installed the latest drivers adrenaline 19.3.2 march 14th.

My device manager finally read it as vega vii but had this symbol "!" ,  So i thought it just needed a reboot,  I rebooted it and now i can't get anything to load up,  Not even my motherboard settings.   The screen shows a large underscore "_"  on the boot screen   .  And just stays stuck there and does not load windows or anything.

Any ideas on what I should try? Thanks


I would say that You made mistake swapping sequence of two steps: driver install and flash.
You should change positions of Your cards to boot system with RTX and flash again Vega with Your original VBIOS (You did backup, don't You?).
Than You can try flashing with new VBIOS (if it is proper one for Your manufacturer/model).

I didn't do a backup. I'm an amd noob. Looks like I bricked my Vega vii on day 1 Sad  .  

So i unplugged the riser on the amd radeon so i can get back into windows.   Replugged the riser back in hoping the hardware will get detected.  Unfortunetly it does not detect.  I tried to reinstall amd drivers and it can't detect hardware anymore probably b/c I ran that bios v106 x64 before installing drivers.  It won't allow me to install drivers unless it detects hardware.

What should i do next? return the card back to amazon? RMA it?  This sucks now I know why I always stayed loyal to team green.

Why did you flash another BIOS onto the card if I may ask? I was running RTX 2080 Ti + Vega VII in the same computer for a while, but I put my VII in my dedicated mining rig after a while. No issues at all running them together.

I think you can get original BIOS from your vendor as well. What vendor do you have? Maybe I can get you an original BIOS, I have Sapphire one.
hero member
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I’m mining Beam on NiceHash with my Vega 7s right now. Is there a more profitable algo for them?

I think CN algos are more suited for the VII.

CN-r seems to be the one to mine then? I was having issues getting it to work using the 2 popular miners. I’ll have to try again soon.
From what I've read around these forums, Radeon VII should be able to get over 3000 h/s quite easily. Note that Teamred haven't yet optimised their miner for Radeon VII's so there might be even more performance still to come.

GPU's still too expensive for my liking but hey.
donator
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
I’m mining Beam on NiceHash with my Vega 7s right now. Is there a more profitable algo for them?

I think CN algos are more suited for the VII.

CN-r seems to be the one to mine then? I was having issues getting it to work using the 2 popular miners. I’ll have to try again soon.
full member
Activity: 1120
Merit: 131
I can't get my vega vii to work with my nvidia cards 2080 rtx.

When i added the vega vii it initially detected the unkown hardware,  I flashed the bios with v106 x64,  Then i installed the latest drivers adrenaline 19.3.2 march 14th.

My device manager finally read it as vega vii but had this symbol "!" ,  So i thought it just needed a reboot,  I rebooted it and now i can't get anything to load up,  Not even my motherboard settings.   The screen shows a large underscore "_"  on the boot screen   .  And just stays stuck there and does not load windows or anything.

Any ideas on what I should try? Thanks


I would say that You made mistake swapping sequence of two steps: driver install and flash.
You should change positions of Your cards to boot system with RTX and flash again Vega with Your original VBIOS (You did backup, don't You?).
Than You can try flashing with new VBIOS (if it is proper one for Your manufacturer/model).

I didn't do a backup. I'm an amd noob. Looks like I bricked my Vega vii on day 1 Sad  . 

So i unplugged the riser on the amd radeon so i can get back into windows.   Replugged the riser back in hoping the hardware will get detected.  Unfortunetly it does not detect.  I tried to reinstall amd drivers and it can't detect hardware anymore probably b/c I ran that bios v106 x64 before installing drivers.  It won't allow me to install drivers unless it detects hardware.

What should i do next? return the card back to amazon? RMA it?  This sucks now I know why I always stayed loyal to team green.

Get a bios from a manufacturer, any will do (MSI, Gigabyte, ASUS), then flash it.

If you mod your bios, you have to use the "atikmdag-patcher-1.4.6" to allow your modded bios by the driver.

Then you may have to disable / re-eanable your GPU from win 10 control panel.

It was quite tricky to get my APU (Ryzen 2400G) working with the modded GPUs, but you should manage to do it with your VII.



I’m mining Beam on NiceHash with my Vega 7s right now. Is there a more profitable algo for them?

I think CN algos are more suited for the VII.
donator
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Leading Crypto Sports Betting & Casino Platform
I’m mining Beam on NiceHash with my Vega 7s right now. Is there a more profitable algo for them?
full member
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I can't get my vega vii to work with my nvidia cards 2080 rtx.

When i added the vega vii it initially detected the unkown hardware,  I flashed the bios with v106 x64,  Then i installed the latest drivers adrenaline 19.3.2 march 14th.

My device manager finally read it as vega vii but had this symbol "!" ,  So i thought it just needed a reboot,  I rebooted it and now i can't get anything to load up,  Not even my motherboard settings.   The screen shows a large underscore "_"  on the boot screen   .  And just stays stuck there and does not load windows or anything.

Any ideas on what I should try? Thanks


I would say that You made mistake swapping sequence of two steps: driver install and flash.
You should change positions of Your cards to boot system with RTX and flash again Vega with Your original VBIOS (You did backup, don't You?).
Than You can try flashing with new VBIOS (if it is proper one for Your manufacturer/model).

I didn't do a backup. I'm an amd noob. Looks like I bricked my Vega vii on day 1 Sad  .  

So i unplugged the riser on the amd radeon so i can get back into windows.   Replugged the riser back in hoping the hardware will get detected.  Unfortunetly it does not detect.  I tried to reinstall amd drivers and it can't detect hardware anymore probably b/c I ran that bios v106 x64 before installing drivers.  It won't allow me to install drivers unless it detects hardware.

What should i do next? return the card back to amazon? RMA it?  This sucks now I know why I always stayed loyal to team green.
sr. member
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Me, Myself & I
I can't get my vega vii to work with my nvidia cards 2080 rtx.

When i added the vega vii it initially detected the unkown hardware,  I flashed the bios with v106 x64,  Then i installed the latest drivers adrenaline 19.3.2 march 14th.

My device manager finally read it as vega vii but had this symbol "!" ,  So i thought it just needed a reboot,  I rebooted it and now i can't get anything to load up,  Not even my motherboard settings.   The screen shows a large underscore "_"  on the boot screen   .  And just stays stuck there and does not load windows or anything.

Any ideas on what I should try? Thanks


I would say that You made mistake swapping sequence of two steps: driver install and flash.
You should change positions of Your cards to boot system with RTX and flash again Vega with Your original VBIOS (You did backup, don't You?).
Than You can try flashing with new VBIOS (if it is proper one for Your manufacturer/model).
full member
Activity: 846
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I can't get my vega vii to work with my nvidia cards 2080 rtx.

When i added the vega vii it initially detected the unkown hardware,  I flashed the bios with v106 x64,  Then i installed the latest drivers adrenaline 19.3.2 march 14th.

My device manager finally read it as vega vii but had this symbol "!" ,  So i thought it just needed a reboot,  I rebooted it and now i can't get anything to load up,  Not even my motherboard settings.   The screen shows a large underscore "_"  on the boot screen   .  And just stays stuck there and does not load windows or anything.

Any ideas on what I should try? Thanks
jr. member
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Anyone knows a Grin31 (Cuckatoo) miner for Radeon VII? I think it will be quite good at it because 16 GB VRAM.
full member
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On video games, it seems the Radeon VII works fine at 995-1000mV, much better average speed. Power draw is also better reduced this way. Should be worth giving it a try for Radeon VII while mining
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I also took the plunge. Pretty happy so far. I had some fun last night with with another subzero MN cold front. Was able to hit 100Mh on ETH. See video below:

https://youtu.be/tESw7vbTuq8
How much power tho
newbie
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I also took the plunge. Pretty happy so far. I had some fun last night with with another subzero MN cold front. Was able to hit 100Mh on ETH. See video below:

https://youtu.be/tESw7vbTuq8
jr. member
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full member
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To Hash or not to Hash, that's what the question
So i managed to get 2800hs(stable) with peaking 2900hs with CASTXMR from GANDALPH3000 but could not get anything more than 2000 with xmrstack or xmrig...
VOSK - can share your config, as well as WATTMAN - monitor when it runs? What is the brand of your card? and what revision is your GPU (i know there is at least 3 revisions) and who is memory manufacturer?
Thanks
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if it was at least a trade off between them, vega56 1800mhs, rvii 2800mhs on monero, rvii is 50% shorter on computing performance than it was supposed to be and yet it costs 50% more, not worth, brainwashed trolls will make it to be worthy, trust me.
Give it time, Mr Doom & Gloom.
Unoptimised drivers, unoptimised miners - that's what we're mainly dealing with currently. Vegas were allegedly crap until somebody found out they weren't, remember?

Well the Radeon VII isn't running on a new architecture. It's essentially a Vega 56 on a smaller node with higher bandwidth and memory bus. The smaller node allows it to clock at the 2-2.1Ghz range giving it that big boost in performance. I doubt drivers will do much more than we are seeing already. The performance numbers make sense based on what we know from Vega 10 (which is essentially Vega 20 at 14nm).

This, nothing new about it, actually i think vega 14nm is way more powerful given is 14nm and i dont think drivers will help it either. If it was a pure die shrink then monero was supposed to have hashrates around 4000mhs which is not the case. I'm a lot more interested in navi.

There is no reason why Radeon VII cant hit 4k monero. Its doing 90MH eth. Something in the cryptonight kernel is not properly optimized to take advantage of the full bandwidth. Only other thing I can think of is that the algorithm is way more compute bound, so reduced number of cores is having a significant bottleneck.

I think it's the 2nd.  Coz there is marginal improvement when HBM is ocd over 1150 or so.  Only increasing core freq boosts the hashrate.  So it's more likely core limited.  cnv8 is more compute heavier than cnv7.
legendary
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if it was at least a trade off between them, vega56 1800mhs, rvii 2800mhs on monero, rvii is 50% shorter on computing performance than it was supposed to be and yet it costs 50% more, not worth, brainwashed trolls will make it to be worthy, trust me.
Give it time, Mr Doom & Gloom.
Unoptimised drivers, unoptimised miners - that's what we're mainly dealing with currently. Vegas were allegedly crap until somebody found out they weren't, remember?

Well the Radeon VII isn't running on a new architecture. It's essentially a Vega 56 on a smaller node with higher bandwidth and memory bus. The smaller node allows it to clock at the 2-2.1Ghz range giving it that big boost in performance. I doubt drivers will do much more than we are seeing already. The performance numbers make sense based on what we know from Vega 10 (which is essentially Vega 20 at 14nm).

This, nothing new about it, actually i think vega 14nm is way more powerful given is 14nm and i dont think drivers will help it either. If it was a pure die shrink then monero was supposed to have hashrates around 4000mhs which is not the case. I'm a lot more interested in navi.

There is no reason why Radeon VII cant hit 4k monero. Its doing 90MH eth. Something in the cryptonight kernel is not properly optimized to take advantage of the full bandwidth. Only other thing I can think of is that the algorithm is way more compute bound, so reduced number of cores is having a significant bottleneck.
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