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Quote from: bustabitsboy on May 02, 2022, 02:20:38 PM

It is necessary to learn to do without gas. There are many options for this. Europe must switch to subsistence farming and the exchange of products. You can heat your house with firewood and give up factories. By doing this, you will improve the environment and be healthy. I think life itself pushes people to such a choice. You can stop washing your body and brush your teeth. Just don't use gas from Russia Wink

You simply don't know that burning of firewood itself is not good for the environment and the ozone, it causes different things that will lead to depletion so that is never a good suggestion because the effect against the earth is capable of causing harm than good to the society. No matter what happen the gas supply issue will be appropriately taken care of.

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It is necessary to learn to do without gas. There are many options for this. Europe must switch to subsistence farming and the exchange of products. You can heat your house with firewood and give up factories. By doing this, you will improve the environment and be healthy. I think life itself pushes people to such a choice. You can stop washing your body and brush your teeth. Just don't use gas from Russia Wink

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At the point, no country can replace Russia, but surely overtime they can surely be replaced.
In the world 40 percent of gas supplies are from Russia!
Africans are another big names when it comes too oil and gas but how equipped are they ? Crappy as they can't keep up without good privatization of international bodies or non governmental organizations.
A switch to more technologies can lessen the want of gas and Russia energy.

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And why should the EU look for a replacement for Russian gas and oil? Not so soon Russia will lose the military campaign, and the weight of the sanctions will break the back of the economy. Internal tensions will break the internal structure, as it has already been, the power of Putin's fascists will be destroyed. Russia will find itself in a terrible state - a lost war, a ruined economy, sanctions, reparations obligations, and not only to Ukraine. You have to pay, you can’t get anywhere - what to do? And here is the way out - all oil and gas goes to the EU market, at a price adopted by a special commission. For example, offset goes at a price of 45 dollars per barrel.

And all the funds go to a special account, from where annually, for example, reparations payments will be paid to Ukraine, for example, 1 trillion dollars a year, for 50 years. And in 50 years, an animal state, the remaining Russians, who by the way will be forbidden to leave the territory of Russia, will have their brains cleaned from imperial "cockroaches", from fascism, from the desire to kill neighbors, and other "Russianisms". And the EU does not need to look for new suppliers of gas and oil. The only thing left for the EU to do is to help Ukraine strangle the rashist nits

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Quote from: DanWalker on April 22, 2022, 08:56:19 AM

Honestly, with the current situation no one will be able to replace Russian gas supplies to Europe. If any, then Europe would not have to depend on Russia for a long time without any alternative. And when the war broke out the situation became tenser and tenser, Europe rushed to find new suppliers in vain. That true Saudi Arabia, Venezuela ... can supply oil and gas to Europe but building the infrastructure will take years and all is just a plan and will only take place in a few years.

I am not so sure about that. I mean yes, it is impossible to do it all at once, but impossible ever? I do not think so. I am 100% certain that Europe could find a way to go towards energy self sufficiency if they wanted to. Yes, it would take a lot of money and maybe like a decade to reach there but they just spent needed money because of pandemic.

I mean they have been talking about how much it would cost to do it and postponed it and it happened anyway, pandemic forced their hands and they did spend more than needed. This resulted with the world being on fire and on top of that Russia happened. They could just say "we can't take that risk again" and do it.

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Quote from: DOH! on April 23, 2022, 12:29:40 PM

I think, The results are clear after the meeting between the EU and OPEC. It is almost impossible to find an alternative source of 7 million barrels of oil per day for the EU, which is why the oil embargo sanctions from Russia have not been applied. The fact that OPEC only accepts to increase production to about 400,000 bpd would be too modest. Meanwhile, the most promising ones are the UAE and Saudi Arabia, which claim to have no more supply to the market. The consequences of geopolitics continue to wreak havoc on a world economy

In such a short time it is impossible to give up Russian oil and gas, and for this it is necessary to survive more than one winter. Due to Russia's geographic location to Europe, it is very stupid to refuse raw materials, especially since Russia announces the continuation of the supply of its products to Europe. The desire to stop trading with Russia is a stab in the foot.

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Quote from: DOH! on April 23, 2022, 12:29:40 PM

I think, The results are clear after the meeting between the EU and OPEC. It is almost impossible to find an alternative source of 7 million barrels of oil per day for the EU, which is why the oil embargo sanctions from Russia have not been applied. The fact that OPEC only accepts to increase production to about 400,000 bpd would be too modest. Meanwhile, the most promising ones are the UAE and Saudi Arabia, which claim to have no more supply to the market. The consequences of geopolitics continue to wreak havoc on a world economy

It's very complicated one.Russia is one of the best and huge holding gas capacity. OPEC may be the other oppurnuity for the Europe to get away from the gas dependence.In a meanwhile of war, Europe can use od OPEC. Seems to be war will be end before the October. Because Russia can't handle this war during the winter. This is good opportunity for the OPEC to earn huge in short period.

Or as much as possible, Russia should stop this war but you have a point that they may not handle this during winter. That would be a killing to their soldiers themselves. Anyway, why not look for alternative sources of energy within the region rather than looking for alternative gas supplies? If no one can supply them, then, maybe it is high time to exhaust their energy potential via renewable sources.

No way , renewable energy just a dream .. everybody knows about it. despite its huge advantages ... there is too much challenges to bear , corporate won't get the money that they wanted , it's surely not as profitable as the current energy businesses , moreover the political pressure are the most influential one , so yeah big no , never be an option to be a solution.

russia try to prove that they can live with the west sanctions so do with the west. mad world.

Renewable energy is no more a dream. This might take time, but for sure this is going to be the future of energy. Already we've got transition happening in the automotive industry. This will slowly make changes in different industrial sectors. Today saw about Ships that are functioning completely on renewable energy. When that is possible, surely the dream will come true.

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Quote from: CaVO32 on April 23, 2022, 05:22:45 PM

Quote from: ajochems on April 23, 2022, 02:49:18 PM

Quote from: DOH! on April 23, 2022, 12:29:40 PM

I think, The results are clear after the meeting between the EU and OPEC. It is almost impossible to find an alternative source of 7 million barrels of oil per day for the EU, which is why the oil embargo sanctions from Russia have not been applied. The fact that OPEC only accepts to increase production to about 400,000 bpd would be too modest. Meanwhile, the most promising ones are the UAE and Saudi Arabia, which claim to have no more supply to the market. The consequences of geopolitics continue to wreak havoc on a world economy

It's very complicated one.Russia is one of the best and huge holding gas capacity. OPEC may be the other oppurnuity for the Europe to get away from the gas dependence.In a meanwhile of war, Europe can use od OPEC. Seems to be war will be end before the October. Because Russia can't handle this war during the winter. This is good opportunity for the OPEC to earn huge in short period.

Or as much as possible, Russia should stop this war but you have a point that they may not handle this during winter. That would be a killing to their soldiers themselves. Anyway, why not look for alternative sources of energy within the region rather than looking for alternative gas supplies? If no one can supply them, then, maybe it is high time to exhaust their energy potential via renewable sources.

No way , renewable energy just a dream .. everybody knows about it. despite its huge advantages ... there is too much challenges to bear , corporate won't get the money that they wanted , it's surely not as profitable as the current energy businesses , moreover the political pressure are the most influential one , so yeah big no , never be an option to be a solution.

russia try to prove that they can live with the west sanctions so do with the west. mad world.

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Quote from: ajochems on April 23, 2022, 02:49:18 PM

Quote from: DOH! on April 23, 2022, 12:29:40 PM

I think, The results are clear after the meeting between the EU and OPEC. It is almost impossible to find an alternative source of 7 million barrels of oil per day for the EU, which is why the oil embargo sanctions from Russia have not been applied. The fact that OPEC only accepts to increase production to about 400,000 bpd would be too modest. Meanwhile, the most promising ones are the UAE and Saudi Arabia, which claim to have no more supply to the market. The consequences of geopolitics continue to wreak havoc on a world economy

It's very complicated one.Russia is one of the best and huge holding gas capacity. OPEC may be the other oppurnuity for the Europe to get away from the gas dependence.In a meanwhile of war, Europe can use od OPEC. Seems to be war will be end before the October. Because Russia can't handle this war during the winter. This is good opportunity for the OPEC to earn huge in short period.

Or as much as possible, Russia should stop this war but you have a point that they may not handle this during winter. That would be a killing to their soldiers themselves. Anyway, why not look for alternative sources of energy within the region rather than looking for alternative gas supplies? If no one can supply them, then, maybe it is high time to exhaust their energy potential via renewable sources.

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It's very complicated one.Russia is one of the best and huge holding gas capacity. OPEC may be the other oppurnuity for the Europe to get away from the gas dependence.In a meanwhile of war, Europe can use od OPEC. Seems to be war will be end before the October. Because Russia can't handle this war during the winter. This is good opportunity for the OPEC to earn huge in short period.

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I think, The results are clear after the meeting between the EU and OPEC. It is almost impossible to find an alternative source of 7 million barrels of oil per day for the EU, which is why the oil embargo sanctions from Russia have not been applied. The fact that OPEC only accepts to increase production to about 400,000 bpd would be too modest. Meanwhile, the most promising ones are the UAE and Saudi Arabia, which claim to have no more supply to the market. The consequences of geopolitics continue to wreak havoc on a world economy

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Quote from: Zlantann on March 02, 2022, 09:50:44 AM

There are suspicions that Russia might fight back by shutting gas supply to the West. Some sources confirmed that the US is already in talks with Qatar to become Russia’s substitute.
But Qatar and other oil and gas producing nations confirmed that they will not be able to provide substantial amounts of gas to replace Russia’s supply.
African countries have been tipped as the best option because the continent has some of the world’s deepest gas reserves. But Africa might not replace Russia because of insecurity and lack of infrastructures.
Who will replace Russia?
https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2022/3/1/analysis-can-african-gas-replace-russian-supplies-to-europe

I don't think anyone can. Europe is doomed imo. They'll probably try to get their gas from USA by ships and from other smaller ME countries but like you said it is not going to be enough. Also the US has its own problems and they'll probably stop giving gas/oil to Europe at some point because the prices are also climbing up there.

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Quote from: Zlantann on March 02, 2022, 09:50:44 AM

African countries have been tipped as the best option because the continent has some of the world’s deepest gas reserves. But Africa might not replace Russia because of insecurity and lack of infrastructures.

Who will replace Russia?

https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2022/3/1/analysis-can-african-gas-replace-russian-supplies-to-europe

Taking oil reserves from Africa will make the oil supply there unstable, this is tantamount to taking away the rights of African citizens. One of the best ways imo to replace Russia's gas and oil supply is to look for new oil mines that have the same yield as Russia or buy oil and gas in a country that is a friend of Russia.

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To build a gas network certainly requires a long time and time, especially now that most European countries are gas and Russian importers become the largest gas supplier so that when Russia invasion of Ukraine, Europe cannot do much, and the biggest opportunity to find a replacement from Russia is from Africa and Arab countries.

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Quote from: Zlantann on March 02, 2022, 09:50:44 AM

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Who will replace Russia?

https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2022/3/1/analysis-can-african-gas-replace-russian-supplies-to-europe

Oil trade between countries already has an agreement, so it is currently difficult to replace oil and gas originating from Russia. Taking quotas from other countries may be an option that European countries and the US can take so that they don't experience a shortage of oil and gas. from the news i read, russia makes billions of dollars from oil and gas transactions despite being under western sanctions.

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Gas is Russia's mainstay and strength to pressure Europe, many European countries are very dependent on Russian gas, so they can't do anything when Russia invades Ukraine, and it's difficult to find gas supplies because to build gas infrastructure it takes a very large cost and takes a long time. .

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Honestly, with the current situation no one will be able to replace Russian gas supplies to Europe. If any, then Europe would not have to depend on Russia for a long time without any alternative. And when the war broke out the situation became tenser and tenser, Europe rushed to find new suppliers in vain. That true Saudi Arabia, Venezuela ... can supply oil and gas to Europe but building the infrastructure will take years and all is just a plan and will only take place in a few years.

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As of now no country has got the oil supply capability as Russia. Probably more talks with different countries were going on, particularly the talks were with the middle east countries. Saudi Arabia and United Arab Emirates weren't able to provide the requested supply. Qatar is the only government that heard about the need from Germany, but they doesn't have the LNG terminals. Right now Germany is fast tracking the construction of LNG terminals, and it takes atleast few years to function. The better option is to find an alternate plan through solar energy or other forms of energy.

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Who will Replace Russian Gas Supplies to Europe?

It will still be Russia. A positive scenario when they have a common voice. That's what I used to think:)
But it seems that things are also going in reverse as the sides continue to impose sanctions on each other. Some countries in the west have also offered some other solutions, such as using other fuels or buying fuel from other places like Russia, but that is still an idea that I believe will suffer if there is no peaceful solution.

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