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legendary
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January 01, 2016, 02:52:30 PM
There won't be a world war 3. Both sides have much more to lose than gain.
I think this the only right answer all countries are scared to start new ww3. Now a day there is enough nuclear power to blow the world.

Well, I wouldn´t count on that. Not while retards vote psychopaths into political office. And there seems little likelihood that it will change.

It´s the problem with psychopaths, they are crazy. You can´t count on common sense and rationality as they are concerned.
No. Politicians aren't as dumb as they may appear. They care about their own livelihoods too much to risk a nuclear war.

Also, the people tasked with turning the ignition keys in both the USSR and US during the cold war have openly stated that they were never going to turn the key even if ordered. I doubt this sentiment has changed very much.

If there ever is a large scale nuclear war it'll be some stupid conflict between Pakistan and India.

I didn´t say they were dumb, I said they were crazy. There is a BIG difference.

Look around you at all the war scams, death and destruction that these nutballs have created. They thrive on mayhem and chaos. You simply can´t rule anything out.
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January 01, 2016, 02:38:48 PM
There won't be a world war 3. Both sides have much more to lose than gain.
I think this the only right answer all countries are scared to start new ww3. Now a day there is enough nuclear power to blow the world.

Well, I wouldn´t count on that. Not while retards vote psychopaths into political office. And there seems little likelihood that it will change.

It´s the problem with psychopaths, they are crazy. You can´t count on common sense and rationality as they are concerned.
No. Politicians aren't as dumb as they may appear. They care about their own livelihoods too much to risk a nuclear war.

Also, the people tasked with turning the ignition keys in both the USSR and US during the cold war have openly stated that they were never going to turn the key even if ordered. I doubt this sentiment has changed very much.

If there ever is a large scale nuclear war it'll be some stupid conflict between Pakistan and India.
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January 01, 2016, 02:35:11 PM
There won't be a world war 3. Both sides have much more to lose than gain.
I think this the only right answer all countries are scared to start new ww3. Now a day there is enough nuclear power to blow the world.

Well, I wouldn´t count on that. Not while retards vote psychopaths into political office. And there seems little likelihood that it will change.

It´s the problem with psychopaths, they are crazy. You can´t count on common sense and rationality as they are concerned.
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January 01, 2016, 02:27:32 PM
There won't be a world war 3. Both sides have much more to lose than gain.
I think this the only right answer all countries are scared to start new ww3. Now a day there is enough nuclear power to blow the world.
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January 01, 2016, 02:24:02 PM
There won't be a world war 3. Both sides have much more to lose than gain.
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January 01, 2016, 07:57:17 AM
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This doesn't mean anything. Just because the Americans spend more money than China and Russia, that doesn't automatically makes them a better fighting force when compared to the others. The Russians on their part, have churned out state of the art weaponry, at extremely low R&D costs. For example, the development of the Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II is likely to cost the NATO somewhere around $1,500 billion to $2,000 billion USD. At the same time, the Russians designed a much better alternative (Sukhoi PAK FA) for just $10 billion.

Fewer middlemen to be paid in countries other than the U.S.  However, many of those countries buy their technology from U.S. companies.

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The russian got one of the best fighter jet and pilots in the world.
Russian tech is as modernistic as the western nations. But they got more manpowers.
legendary
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December 31, 2015, 07:57:05 AM
Fewer middlemen to be paid in countries other than the U.S.  However, many of those countries buy their technology from U.S. companies.

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Might be true in the case of Saudi Arabia (most of their weaponry is of American origin). However, Russia and China have never purchased any American weaponry. On the other hand, these nations are among the top competitors to the American defense equipment industry, and in many cases the Russian weapons are superior to their American equivalents.
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December 31, 2015, 07:32:50 AM
Spent on defense.



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This doesn't mean anything. Just because the Americans spend more money than China and Russia, that doesn't automatically makes them a better fighting force when compared to the others. The Russians on their part, have churned out state of the art weaponry, at extremely low R&D costs. For example, the development of the Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II is likely to cost the NATO somewhere around $1,500 billion to $2,000 billion USD. At the same time, the Russians designed a much better alternative (Sukhoi PAK FA) for just $10 billion.

Fewer middlemen to be paid in countries other than the U.S.  However, many of those countries buy their technology from U.S. companies.

Smiley
legendary
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December 31, 2015, 07:08:40 AM
Spent on defense.



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This doesn't mean anything. Just because the Americans spend more money than China and Russia, that doesn't automatically makes them a better fighting force when compared to the others. The Russians on their part, have churned out state of the art weaponry, at extremely low R&D costs. For example, the development of the Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II is likely to cost the NATO somewhere around $1,500 billion to $2,000 billion USD. At the same time, the Russians designed a much better alternative (Sukhoi PAK FA) for just $10 billion.
legendary
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December 31, 2015, 06:37:09 AM
Spent on defense.



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December 31, 2015, 05:53:12 AM
I Will say Russian & China will win.
They got almost the same technology advancement as the western countries, but with a bigger land and manpower.
Bigger land means harder for them to nuke everything to eradicate them.
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December 31, 2015, 05:36:32 AM
Always missing in these comparisons: missiles. The main reason that U.S. aircraft carriers wouldn´t leave port in a war against Russia and China except maybe as the very last resort.

Great news: Russian "Black Hole" Sub appeared off Syria without NATO/U.S. having much of a clue.

MOSCOW (Sputnik) – Russia’s new Kalibr (SS-N-27 Sizzler) cruise missile systems provide expanded defense capabilities to the Russian Navy, the latest unclassified US Navy intelligence report reveals.

"The new technologically advanced Russian Navy, increasingly armed with the KALIBR family of weapons, will be able to more capably defend the maritime approaches to the Russian Federation and exert significant influence in adjacent seas," the December Office of Naval Intelligence report said.

It quoted an unnamed high-ranking Russian defense industry official as saying in 2011 that the Kalibr family "provides even modest platforms, such as corvettes, with significant offensive capability." The official went on to say the capability to hold distant fixed ground targets at risk using conventional warheads expands Russia’s ability to deter, threaten or destroy adversary targets.

Last week, Deputy Defense Minister Yuri Borisov disclosed plans to fit two next-generation Project 22800 corvettes with new Kalibr systems. The Uragan and Taifun small missile ships are expected to join the national fleet in 2017-18.

Russia's Caspian Fleet launches a massive attack involving 18 Kalibr-NK cruise missiles on 7 terrorist positions in the Syrian provinces of al-Raqqah, Idlib and Aleppo

Russia Laying Down 2 New-Gen Corvettes Armed With Kalibr Cruise Missiles

Experts assess that Kalibr can be used alongside other cruise missiles to perform missions similar to those of the US Conventional Prompt Global Strike program designed to deliver a precision strike anywhere in the world within an hour.
The system, including anti-ship, anti-submarine and land attack cruise missiles with a reported operational range of 160 miles to 930/1,550 miles, was last deployed against terrorist targets in Syria early in December.
Russia is underground a major five-year rearmament program to modernize nearly three-quarters of its military by 2020.

http://sputniknews.com/military/20151231/1032539980/us-navy-kalibr-russia.html


Read more: http://sputniknews.com/military/20151231/1032539980/us-navy-kalibr-russia.html#ixzz3vtS88tqD
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December 14, 2015, 01:22:13 AM
.However, Russia is holding debt worth more than $500 billion belonging to the other countries. 
What? Dou you have any proof about "$ 500 billion"? The biggest debt holding by Russia is US debt. Its approximately $ 70 billion. What about other $ 430 billion?
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December 13, 2015, 10:04:20 PM
No one actually wins a war.We have seen in the past and looking at the present Geo-political scenario around the world you can ascertain yourself,who is suffering most.Innocent people are becoming victims in these wars,that are fought for global dominance and greed only.

Bankers win wars. They won in ww1 and ww2  Wink Who do you think funded Hitler and Soviets?

The Bank of Raqqa lost over 400$ million us dollar to the terrorists. I think they won.. in this Moment

At the end i think Russia and China will be the Leaders. Chinas keeping Cold so far.

regards
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December 13, 2015, 09:19:49 PM
And Russia actually has very huge external debt: $ 679 billions.  Proof - Central Bank of Russian Federation (in Russian) http://cbr.ru/statistics/print.aspx?file=credit_statistics/debt_an_new.htm   It is much bigger than all Russian reserve funds.

The Russian external debt was $555 billion as of 2015. However, Russia is holding debt worth more than $500 billion belonging to the other countries. So the net external debt is only around $40 billion to $50 billion. Russia is very close to a "net international creditor", unlike the case with the United States of America. 
legendary
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December 13, 2015, 06:09:59 PM
Ok, if we are talking about US debt it would be necessary to say that approximately 70% of USA debt is owned by US citizens, banks, corporations and the Federal Reserve Bank, only 30-33% of US debt is held by foreign countries.
And Russia actually has very huge external debt: $ 679 billions.  Proof - Central Bank of Russian Federation (in Russian) http://cbr.ru/statistics/print.aspx?file=credit_statistics/debt_an_new.htm   It is much bigger than all Russian reserve funds.

http://www.usdebtclock.org

The debt is fake.

Before the Federal Reserve Bank was given control of the money by government, the money was simply a medium of exchange. Then with the FED we went on the fiction debt system. This means that all debt is fake, because it was essentially legislated into being.

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December 13, 2015, 05:15:11 PM
Ok, if we are talking about US debt it would be necessary to say that approximately 70% of USA debt is owned by US citizens, banks, corporations and the Federal Reserve Bank, only 30-33% of US debt is held by foreign countries.
And Russia actually has very huge external debt: $ 679 billions.  Proof - Central Bank of Russian Federation (in Russian) http://cbr.ru/statistics/print.aspx?file=credit_statistics/debt_an_new.htm   It is much bigger than all Russian reserve funds.

http://www.usdebtclock.org
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December 13, 2015, 04:46:56 PM
And who knows about russian external debt?

Russian Reserve funds are worth more than $360 billion, and the federal debt is only around 10% of this amount. So you can say that Russia is in a net positive. On the other hand, the American federal debt is at least 10 to 12 times the net worth of its gold / forex reserves. And this ratio is rapidly increasing day by day.

Ok, if we are talking about US debt it would be necessary to say that approximately 70% of USA debt is owned by US citizens, banks, corporations and the Federal Reserve Bank, only 30-33% of US debt is held by foreign countries.
And Russia actually has very huge external debt: $ 679 billions.  Proof - Central Bank of Russian Federation (in Russian) http://cbr.ru/statistics/print.aspx?file=credit_statistics/debt_an_new.htm   It is much bigger than all Russian reserve funds.
legendary
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December 13, 2015, 10:35:59 AM
And who knows about russian external debt?

Russian Reserve funds are worth more than $360 billion, and the federal debt is only around 10% of this amount. So you can say that Russia is in a net positive. On the other hand, the American federal debt is at least 10 to 12 times the net worth of its gold / forex reserves. And this ratio is rapidly increasing day by day.
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