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Tsk-tsk-tsk... I go out for a walk to blow dandelion seeds over select, chemical lawns, and come back to see this thread totally derailed into the gun-control battlefield.
To try to gently navigate back towards the original topic, I shall point out here that leaf blowers are to urban landscaping what M28 Davy Crockett is to self-defense weaponry. A retarded, inappropriate, inefficient technology.

If you think that you should try this one for size:


'PULSEJET Powered SNOW BLOWER'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpbKGvjqsxM
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Tsk-tsk-tsk... I go out for a walk to blow dandelion seeds over select, chemical lawns, and come back to see this thread totally derailed into the gun-control battlefield.
To try to gently navigate back towards the original topic, I shall point out here that leaf blowers are to urban landscaping what M28 Davy Crockett is to self-defense weaponry. A retarded, inappropriate, inefficient technology.
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Ignore real life evidence, spout theory. Good plan.

You're the one ignoring the simple fact that adding to an already large base of 300 million guns in circulation is not a plan. If you can get past your fetish for guns you might see that. You also might want to look at real world data regarding nations and gun metrics that aren't published with the backing of the NRA.

Like these? http://www.naturalnews.com/040427_gun_violence_control_statistics.html
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Ignore real life evidence, spout theory. Good plan.

You're the one ignoring the simple fact that adding to an already large base of 300 million guns in circulation is not a plan. If you can get past your fetish for guns you might see that. You also might want to look at real world data regarding nations and gun metrics that aren't published with the backing of the NRA.

But we went through all this in another thread. Remember?
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Ignore real life evidence, spout theory. Good plan.
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Both of your statements here fail to acknowledge the path a gun takes from the manufacturer to criminal.
Typically, a gun is stolen from a legal owner, then sold on the black market.

Your plan ignores a simple law of economics: Supply and demand. Demand (particularly from criminals) won't be reduced by your policies, but the supply will. Coupled with a price floor (your buy-back program), you'll essentially drive a market for stolen guns. The black market price for a gun will skyrocket, perhaps even to the point where criminals are willing to take the risk of knocking over a cop for his gun, to say nothing of the ones in his cruiser.

This will, of course, result in reprisals, and even more violence on the streets. You thought the drug war was bad? Just wait til you see the gun war. (and that's without the inevitable corruption, and supposedly "destroyed" guns showing back up on the streets.)

Actually, it all works quite well.

An increased risk of losing your gun to theft means you're less likely to be careless about it. You won't carry it on your person. You'll lock it up in a safe. You definitely wouldn't want to lose your gun, or be careless about it, because with limited permits being issued, you might not get another for a long time.

Criminals will be less likely to afford them, given the prices. Sure, they'll attempt to steal them, but the reality is, stealing them will be really hard, because those who possess guns just won't let them get stolen.

And finally, criminals will be tempted by the high prices to get rid of the ones they do have, hopefully to sting operations and/or gun buy back programs.

In the end, culturally, the gun nut crowd will realize that guns are not trivial things that should so easily be lost, misplaced, exposed, left inside a drawer or a car, but instead properly locked up in a safe. Given time, gun culture can fade away, which is ultimately what is necessary.

Because the very basic facts of the current situation is there are entirely too many guns out there, and adding more to the mix only makes the probability of criminals being in possession of them more likely.
legendary
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There's no "perhaps" about it. Here in Australia, I remember recently a police car was stolen out of a parking lot and found abandoned a few days later - minus the guns. Guns mysteriously "disappearing" from military bases is also far more common than it should be. Naturally, the gun control lobby firmly believes we can solve these problem with tighter regulation. Roll Eyes

I love real world examples.
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The black market price for a gun will skyrocket, perhaps even to the point where criminals are willing to take the risk of knocking over a cop for his gun, to say nothing of the ones in his cruiser.
There's no "perhaps" about it. Here in Australia, I remember recently a police car was stolen out of a parking lot and found abandoned a few days later - minus the guns. Guns mysteriously "disappearing" from military bases is also far more common than it should be. Naturally, the gun control lobby firmly believes we can solve these problem with tighter regulation. Roll Eyes
Well, there you go.
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The black market price for a gun will skyrocket, perhaps even to the point where criminals are willing to take the risk of knocking over a cop for his gun, to say nothing of the ones in his cruiser.
There's no "perhaps" about it. Here in Australia, I remember recently a police car was stolen out of a parking lot and found abandoned a few days later - minus the guns. Guns mysteriously "disappearing" from military bases is also far more common than it should be. Naturally, the gun control lobby firmly believes we can solve these problem with tighter regulation. Roll Eyes
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Both of your statements here fail to acknowledge the path a gun takes from the manufacturer to criminal.
Typically, a gun is stolen from a legal owner, then sold on the black market.

Your plan ignores a simple law of economics: Supply and demand. Demand (particularly from criminals) won't be reduced by your policies, but the supply will. Coupled with a price floor (your buy-back program), you'll essentially drive a market for stolen guns. The black market price for a gun will skyrocket, perhaps even to the point where criminals are willing to take the risk of knocking over a cop for his gun, to say nothing of the ones in his cruiser.

This will, of course, result in reprisals, and even more violence on the streets. You thought the drug war was bad? Just wait til you see the gun war. (and that's without the inevitable corruption, and supposedly "destroyed" guns showing back up on the streets.)
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Regardless of who has them, the more there are, the more criminals will have them. Maybe you're the one who should be thinking hard about the path a gun takes from manufacturer to criminal. Furthermore, maybe you should think about why each one of those paths was initiated.
Trust me, any criminal who wants a gun can get one. Gun laws only prevent law-abiding people from getting guns, or carrying the one they own, making a criminal's job easier.

If you say there should be fewer, how do you propose to reduce the number?

Gun permits are issued at the federal level only, where one new gun permit is issued for every three guns confiscated, or received in gun buy back programs. Nothing else. Nothing more. No exceptions.
And what about criminals, who by definition don't follow laws? They'll get (buy illegally, steal, or make) guns regardless of permit or not.

Both of your statements here fail to acknowledge the path a gun takes from the manufacturer to criminal. Furthermore, the reason a criminal can get a gun so easily is because there are 300 million of them. That number needs to be reduced, which is what I advocate. Not increased, which is what you advocate.
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Regardless of who has them, the more there are, the more criminals will have them. Maybe you're the one who should be thinking hard about the path a gun takes from manufacturer to criminal. Furthermore, maybe you should think about why each one of those paths was initiated.
Trust me, any criminal who wants a gun can get one. Gun laws only prevent law-abiding people from getting guns, or carrying the one they own, making a criminal's job easier.

If you say there should be fewer, how do you propose to reduce the number?

Gun permits are issued at the federal level only, where one new gun permit is issued for every three guns confiscated, or received in gun buy back programs. Nothing else. Nothing more. No exceptions.
And what about criminals, who by definition don't follow laws? They'll get (buy illegally, steal, or make) guns regardless of permit or not.
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You were going to answer how many guns would reduce crime in the U.S. since you stated that you believe 300 million guns are not enough. But you can't answer it, can you? I believe less guns (much less than 300 million) is more appropriate, so I can't speculate as to what absurd number you think is appropriate, thus I asked you to provide the number.
Think for a second. It's not how many guns there are. it's who has them.

Regardless of who has them, the more there are, the more criminals will have them. Maybe you're the one who should be thinking hard about the path a gun takes from manufacturer to criminal. Furthermore, maybe you should think about why each one of those paths was initiated.

If you say there should be fewer, how do you propose to reduce the number?

Gun permits are issued at the federal level only, where one new gun permit is issued for every three guns confiscated, or received in gun buy back programs. Nothing else. Nothing more. No exceptions.
hero member
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You were going to answer how many guns would reduce crime in the U.S. since you stated that you believe 300 million guns are not enough. But you can't answer it, can you? I believe less guns (much less than 300 million) is more appropriate, so I can't speculate as to what absurd number you think is appropriate, thus I asked you to provide the number.
Think for a second. It's not how many guns there are. it's who has them.

If you say there should be fewer, how do you propose to reduce the number?
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We've already been over chainsaws and how people aren't bothered by them. And we're clear that you think frequent regular use of a leafblower is overuse. It's also a fact that leafblowers are actually used frequently and regularly, often once a week or biweekly in suburban residential areas of single family detached homes at nearly every home in which a gardening crew is hired (which is a large percentage of homes), and up to twice a week in condo and apartment complexes and light industrial complexes and technology parks.

That is not what I have experienced. Maybee there are cultural differences on this?
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Answer the question in my last post.
What's the adult US population?
If you need that number to answer the question, then hunt down the number and then answer the question.
You're a moron.

You were going to answer how many guns would reduce crime in the U.S. since you stated that you believe 300 million guns are not enough. But you can't answer it, can you? I believe less guns (much less than 300 million) is more appropriate, so I can't speculate as to what absurd number you think is appropriate, thus I asked you to provide the number.

Instead, all you can do is resort to insults.
hero member
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FIAT LIBERTAS RVAT CAELVM
Answer the question in my last post.
What's the adult US population?
If you need that number to answer the question, then hunt down the number and then answer the question.
You're a moron.
legendary
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It is the worst thing imaginable.




The apartment building I just moved from, and one of the reasons why... one was because of the leaf blower!

2 rotations with the lawn mower, 1 weed-eater a trimmer, and the fucking leaf blower on my window at 9-10 am.. seriously nothing better to do at 10am than wake everyone up 9 times <.<
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Answer the question in my last post.
What's the adult US population?

If you need that number to answer the question, then hunt down the number and then answer the question.
hero member
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FIAT LIBERTAS RVAT CAELVM
Answer the question in my last post.
What's the adult US population?
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