Whoever Invented the Gasoline-Powered Leaf Blower Should Have His Butt Kicked - page 3.

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Quote from: Lethn on June 07, 2013, 11:31:28 AM

I guess it's like cyclists, you develop a hatred for the object that enables these people to act like specialised douchebags, I think I suddenly understand why gun control advocates hate guns so much, there seem to be specific objects out there that bring out the worst in some people Tongue

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More like there is a certain group of people that imbue magical powers into objects. FirstAscent is a gun-control nut, too.

Actually, to put it bluntly, the problem in America is 300 million guns. I know you want to make that number 500 million pushing one billion, because you think that's actually going to improve the situation. Obviously, if 300 million guns can't solve the problem, one billion won't either. Here's a clue: the problem is 300 million guns.

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Quote from: myrkul on June 07, 2013, 11:27:21 AM

So, your problem is actually with gardening crews, not leafblowers?

Funny how you fail to see that a discussion of gardening crews, or a discussion about individuals who use leafblowers all the time would have little to no meaning regarding the use of leafblowers without the subject at hand actually being the object known as a leafblower.

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Quote from: Lethn on June 07, 2013, 11:31:28 AM

I guess it's like cyclists, you develop a hatred for the object that enables these people to act like specialised douchebags, I think I suddenly understand why gun control advocates hate guns so much, there seem to be specific objects out there that bring out the worst in some people Tongue

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More like there is a certain group of people that imbue magical powers into objects. FirstAscent is a gun-control nut, too.

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I guess it's like cyclists, you develop a hatred for the object that enables these people to act like specialised douchebags, I think I suddenly understand why gun control advocates hate guns so much, there seem to be specific objects out there that bring out the worst in some people Tongue

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So, your problem is actually with gardening crews, not leafblowers?

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Quote from: Malawi on June 07, 2013, 06:29:03 AM

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Quote from: Malawi on June 06, 2013, 02:29:07 PM

I would assume that leafblowers are a once/twice/trice a year thing most places. Using it at a regular basis would be misuse of an excellent tool for it's job.

I don't know what planet is that?! Must be really quiet there.

Exactly. It looks like Malawi is in agreement with me on principle. He's just short of some knowledge about the real world.

If that principle is that leafblowers are a great tool for it's job, but that they can be overused, then yes.

I tend to spend most of my time in the real world and at the same planet as the rest, and I live in an area where most people have a fairly large garden. But I'm not really bothered when someone fires up their chainsaw, leafblower or whatnot - its part of life.

We've already been over chainsaws and how people aren't bothered by them. And we're clear that you think frequent regular use of a leafblower is overuse. It's also a fact that leafblowers are actually used frequently and regularly, often once a week or biweekly in suburban residential areas of single family detached homes at nearly every home in which a gardening crew is hired (which is a large percentage of homes), and up to twice a week in condo and apartment complexes and light industrial complexes and technology parks.

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Quote from: FirstAscent on June 06, 2013, 09:39:13 PM

Quote from: Tonko on June 06, 2013, 03:55:48 PM

Quote from: Malawi on June 06, 2013, 02:29:07 PM

I would assume that leafblowers are a once/twice/trice a year thing most places. Using it at a regular basis would be misuse of an excellent tool for it's job.

I don't know what planet is that?! Must be really quiet there.

Exactly. It looks like Malawi is in agreement with me on principle. He's just short of some knowledge about the real world.

If that principle is that leafblowers are a great tool for it's job, but that they can be overused, then yes.

I tend to spend most of my time in the real world and at the same planet as the rest, and I live in an area where most people have a fairly large garden. But I'm not really bothered when someone fires up their chainsaw, leafblower or whatnot - its part of life.

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Quote from: Tonko on June 06, 2013, 03:55:48 PM

Quote from: Malawi on June 06, 2013, 02:29:07 PM

I would assume that leafblowers are a once/twice/trice a year thing most places. Using it at a regular basis would be misuse of an excellent tool for it's job.

I don't know what planet is that?! Must be really quiet there.

Exactly. It looks like Malawi is in agreement with me on principle. He's just short of some knowledge about the real world.

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Quote from: Tonko on June 06, 2013, 03:55:48 PM

Quote from: Malawi on June 06, 2013, 02:29:07 PM

I would assume that leafblowers are a once/twice/trice a year thing most places. Using it at a regular basis would be misuse of an excellent tool for it's job.

I don't know what planet is that?! Must be really quiet there.

I thought they were like ankle monitors, something DHS made certain people use so if they ever wanted to they could track them down quickly and get them to the polling stations.

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Quote from: Malawi on June 06, 2013, 02:29:07 PM

I would assume that leafblowers are a once/twice/trice a year thing most places. Using it at a regular basis would be misuse of an excellent tool for it's job.

I don't know what planet is that?! Must be really quiet there.

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Quote from: FirstAscent on June 06, 2013, 02:11:52 AM

The differences are obvious. Most jobs utilizing chippers, chainsaws, or jackhammers are one time jobs, not weekly, or even more frequently.

People are much more willing to forgive the disturbance which occurs with one time jobs than regular maintenance type jobs.

I would assume that leafblowers are a once/twice/trice a year thing most places. Using it at a regular basis would be misuse of an excellent tool for it's job.

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Quote from: FirstAscent on June 06, 2013, 10:54:02 AM

Quote from: myrkul on June 06, 2013, 02:19:32 AM

Quote from: FirstAscent on June 06, 2013, 02:11:52 AM

The differences are obvious. Most jobs utilizing chippers, chainsaws, or jackhammers are one time jobs, not weekly, or even more frequently.

People are much more willing to forgive the disturbance which occurs with one time jobs than regular maintenance type jobs.

And people are more likely to use a labor-saving device for jobs that they have to do regularly.

It doesn't change the fact that people are very annoyed by, specifically, leaf blowers, and often don't find the regular disturbance they cause to be justified.

By "people," I assume you mean those who have no input on the decision to hire a lawn crew, or what tools that lawn crew uses.

Those who do have input clearly do accept it, since it gets used so frequently.

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Quote from: myrkul on June 06, 2013, 02:19:32 AM

Quote from: FirstAscent on June 06, 2013, 02:11:52 AM

The differences are obvious. Most jobs utilizing chippers, chainsaws, or jackhammers are one time jobs, not weekly, or even more frequently.

People are much more willing to forgive the disturbance which occurs with one time jobs than regular maintenance type jobs.

And people are more likely to use a labor-saving device for jobs that they have to do regularly.

It doesn't change the fact that people are very annoyed by, specifically, leaf blowers, and often don't find the regular disturbance they cause to be justified.

Missing the point again, I see.

Really, I find it rather funny that you can't find the closer analogy to the leaf blower. It's the gas powered lawn mower. And yet, even that analogy fails completely. Why? Because no matter how close the analogy gets, it doesn't change the simple fact: People accept lawn mowers. But they don't really accept leaf blowers. You can throw your analysis at the situation all you want, but you can't change those facts.

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Quote from: Phinnaeus Gage on June 03, 2013, 11:44:51 PM

I wonder if that Mexican was related to the one I saw at McDonald's the other day, constantly scratching his balls with plastic gloves protecting his hands while he prepared my sandwich.

Normally I have to pay extra for that. Lucky.

I'd rather not get lucky in that way.

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Quote from: Phinnaeus Gage on June 03, 2013, 11:44:51 PM

I wonder if that Mexican was related to the one I saw at McDonald's the other day, constantly scratching his balls with plastic gloves protecting his hands while he prepared my sandwich.

Normally I have to pay extra for that. Lucky.

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Quote from: BitcoinBarrel on June 02, 2013, 11:14:41 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toC4lQ2eQy4

This is comedy at its best. ROFLMFAO.

Like jackass, going into a toilet store, does his duty.

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Quote from: myrkul on June 06, 2013, 02:19:32 AM

Quote from: FirstAscent on June 06, 2013, 02:11:52 AM

The differences are obvious. Most jobs utilizing chippers, chainsaws, or jackhammers are one time jobs, not weekly, or even more frequently.

People are much more willing to forgive the disturbance which occurs with one time jobs than regular maintenance type jobs.

And people are more likely to use a labor-saving device for jobs that they have to do regularly.

Of course, you have to decrease the amount of time that you spend working.

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Quote from: FirstAscent on June 06, 2013, 02:11:52 AM

The differences are obvious. Most jobs utilizing chippers, chainsaws, or jackhammers are one time jobs, not weekly, or even more frequently.

People are much more willing to forgive the disturbance which occurs with one time jobs than regular maintenance type jobs.

And people are more likely to use a labor-saving device for jobs that they have to do regularly.

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The differences are obvious. Most jobs utilizing chippers, chainsaws, or jackhammers are one time jobs, not weekly, or even more frequently.

People are much more willing to forgive the disturbance which occurs with one time jobs than regular maintenance type jobs.

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Quote from: FirstAscent on June 06, 2013, 01:28:48 AM

Quote from: myrkul on June 06, 2013, 12:44:00 AM

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Quote from: myrkul on June 05, 2013, 11:32:08 PM

The chipper/shredder is fine, but the leaf-blower GOES TOO FAR!!!

Funny how in your attempt at sarcasm, you actually capture the truth, and yet you don't understand why.

If you start to think about jobs requiring chippers, chainsaws and jackhammers, you might see the difference.

I have a large number of branches from the recent storm that I could use a chipper for, though I could just haul them off as-is, that seems like a bit of a waste. There's a log and a few stumps that I'll pretty much need to use a chainsaw to clear out an axe would eventually get the job done, but again, a waste of time. If I want to put in a new patio, I'm going to need a jackhammer to remove the old concrete slab. I suppose I could get it done with a sledge, but that's a lot of back-breaking labor. If my yard is covered in leaves, a blower will get it cleaned up a whole lot faster than a rake.

In other words, the jobs that those tools are designed for are all things I might need to do in my own yard. And they are all labor-saving devices.

You don't get it, even when you need to use the tools at hand. What is the difference between the typical jobs requiring chippers, chainsaws, and jackhammers vs. leaf blowers?

Chippers are for turning branches into wood chips, chainsaws are for cutting trees down and logs into manageable size, jackhammers are for breaking up rocks and concrete, and leaf blowers are for moving leaves and grass clippings into piles.

I don't see any consistent differences. They're all fairly laborious chores, which the device in question makes easier.

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