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Topic: Whoops out of smerit. Should there be a way to buy some from theymos? - page 3. (Read 613 times)

legendary
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To me being a merit source would probably make me feel like I have to go out and send merits. More like an obligation.
It does feel like that, especially since they keep respawning. But the solution is easy too: just send more at once. So there you go: apply to be a Merit source Smiley

Buying sMerits from theymos sounds like a bad idea. You shouldn't (have to) spend money to Merit users.
legendary
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To me being a merit source would probably make me feel like I have to go out and send merits. More like an obligation.
Yep, it does feel like an obligation--but truthfully I can only speak for myself.  Other merit sources have become inactive and maybe don't feel like it's a "job".  The only reason it seems that way for me is because I'm an ardent supporter of the merit system and I want to keep the merits circulating.  

Which may or may not be part of the problem. If sources go inactive and are not replaced the flow may slow. Same with not treating it and lets not use the word job how about responsibility. If I were a source I would think part of that is the responsibility to send out merits.


Your idea might be a good one for trusted members, but there would certainly be attempts to buy sMerits to send to alt accounts, friends, and who knows what.  However, Theymos sent me a PM recently (after he changed my username) in which he said he had no plans to increase any merit source's monthly sMerit allocation--so I'm guessing he thinks there are already enough merits circulating and won't go for it.  Just a hunch.

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Wouldn't that create a mess? Some account farmers would buy a few lots and then distribute them among their accounts to build up their accounts faster. These days there are a lot of signature campaigns around & I guess this would be a fantastic business idea for them LOL. Spammers would be everywhere; it would be hard to identify them sometimes as they would have so many earned merits.

That is why I said:
Would have to be handled on a case by case basis, since you don't want to be selling merit to someone who might abuse it.

You could get away with it once but you would wind up burning a good account that Theymos thought was worthy of being able to buy merit and also it would be easy to see which accounts were sent to and those could be tagged too.

Admin have confirmed that forum has sufficient funds to keep the forum running normally, they are no longer expecting donations and recently they are also not auctioning factoid slots. So I don't know what compelled the forum or the admin to agree to sell sMerit to its members. You should be able to easily earn lots of sMerit for free without having to pay anything, we know that.

Because I tend to give out a lot and although I do get a lot remember you need 2 received for 1 to send so my supply does dry up now and then. If it was a 1 to 1 or 1.5 to 1 it might be a different story. Or I might have given more to some posts so would have wound up in the same situation anyway.



Since a few people did send some merits (thank you) I will keep them flowing. And now that the report posts that need merit post is back in my brain I will add to it as needed.

-Dave
legendary
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EDIT: This is not a beg for merit since something like that would only work once (now) but a more in general thing. I get some now but run out again in 7 months and wind up in the same situation. But throw a couple of dollars into the bitcointalk treasury and get some would be a workable thing.
I think I know what you mean, but anyway I don't agree that one should spend a few dollar for sMerit from forum. Your quality posts should be able to help you get a lot of merit where you can return half of it to the community in this forum, especially in posts that you consider quality.

Admin have confirmed that forum has sufficient funds to keep the forum running normally, they are no longer expecting donations and recently they are also not auctioning factoid slots. So I don't know what compelled the forum or the admin to agree to sell sMerit to its members. You should be able to easily earn lots of sMerit for free without having to pay anything, we know that.
hero member
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Wouldn't that create a mess? Some account farmers would buy a few lots and then distribute them among their accounts to build up their accounts faster. These days there are a lot of signature campaigns around & I guess this would be a fantastic business idea for them LOL. Spammers would be everywhere; it would be hard to identify them sometimes as they would have so many earned merits.

Or I just start making notes and when I get some I send some. Never thought about it until now.
You can make notes for deserving post & report them here- [self-moderated] Report unmerited good posts to Merit Source
legendary
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To me being a merit source would probably make me feel like I have to go out and send merits. More like an obligation.
Yep, it does feel like an obligation--but truthfully I can only speak for myself.  Other merit sources have become inactive and maybe don't feel like it's a "job".  The only reason it seems that way for me is because I'm an ardent supporter of the merit system and I want to keep the merits circulating. 

I'm sure you remember what the situation was prior to Jan. 2018, with account farmers and all the shitposts that resulted from people trying to rank up a million accounts in order to sell them or enroll them in campaigns or bounties.  Theymos's solution was both brilliant and unexpected--I remember having the flu really bad and waking up, checking the forum and seeing Meta explode with dozens of threads about this new thing called the merit system.  I thought I was hallucinating because of my fever!

Your idea might be a good one for trusted members, but there would certainly be attempts to buy sMerits to send to alt accounts, friends, and who knows what.  However, Theymos sent me a PM recently (after he changed my username) in which he said he had no plans to increase any merit source's monthly sMerit allocation--so I'm guessing he thinks there are already enough merits circulating and won't go for it.  Just a hunch.
member
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I think it is better to ask to increase monthly merit amount if you are merit source. Buying merit automatically means having trade relations > trading means buying and selling > selling merit isnt allowed. Simple Cheesy
legendary
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I can see that you are a good poster, applying for a merit source would be good (but theymos is not even making anyone a merit source for now).

To me being a merit source would probably make me feel like I have to go out and send merits. More like an obligation. If I paid for them then it's more like they are mine I can be as free or as stingy with them as I like. Just my view.


...If you are out of smerit, I thought you knew about this: [self-moderated] Report unmerited good posts to Merit Source

Knew yes, remembered no....   :-)

-Dave
legendary
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Merit should be free in everyway it can be given to people that deserves it.

I can see that you are a good poster, applying for a merit source would be good (but theymos is not even making anyone a merit source for now).

It would be better if theymos can automatically make people that has over 5000 or more merits to be a merit source, even if only little would be given. I see people having such kind of merits to be worthy of becoming a merit source and you are almost there.

If you are out of smerit, I thought you knew about this: [self-moderated] Report unmerited good posts to Merit Source
legendary
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Just went to merit a bunch of posts and ran out before I finished. Eliminating the become a merit source option, how about something like a copper membership so you can post images, a way to buy some merits from the source.

Would have to be handled on a case by case basis, since you don't want to be selling merit to someone who might abuse it. But, a couple of bucks for 50 or so merit might not be the worst deal.

Or I just start making notes and when I get some I send some. Never thought about it until now.

EDIT: This is not a beg for merit since something like that would only work once (now) but a more in general thing. I get some now but run out again in 7 months and wind up in the same situation. But throw a couple of dollars into the bitcointalk treasury and get some would be a workable thing.

-Dave
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