Topic: Why are people scared of taxes? - page 37. (Read 31542 times)

Then they can solve that alone after the earth is wiped sterile by a freak solar flare.

But if you don't fix humanity first, those colonies will have the same problem with ego.

True, but there is no time for that. Colonies first, fix humanity later.

Wouldn't it make a little more sense to confront the problem, rather than running from it?  Nothing against space colonization, but man's corruption must be fixed at a conscious level or those colonies would be subject to the same causatum.

My internet cut out there. I concede it would not be easy at all, but it could be done. Ironically, it would only be possible through a concerted effort on the part of the world government.

Wiping out humanity is trivial, however. This drives my ambition to create colonies on other planets, moons and solar systems. Even if the earth were destroyed, the colonies may be able to survive if properly designed. That's why I don't particularly bother with taxes or social injustice. If the earth human life on earth were to be destroyed, none of that will matter. So, I focus on my studies so I can make colonies happen. That and spend large amounts of time on forums discussing trivialities.

That would only change the planet, temporarily, it would have no real impact on the nature of the universe.

And I would argue, that would not be an easy task, by any means.

Even if you believe in CAGW with all your heart, that's a pretty outre statement.

To an extent. We can totally mess up the planet's biosphere and turn it into a barren rock pretty easily.

I didn't mean survival of the fittest.  Nature is an equilibrium of everything, it corrects itself, always.

Yes, do you think he's a - gasp! - anarchist? I'd better put a penny in his tip jar.

I'd disagree with that one. Survival of the fittest is not pure or balanced. Effective, yes.

The law of nature is the most pure and balanced law in existence.

But not everything is. Cars are not registered for the purpose of determining ownership in the case of theft (though it provides a handy way for the government to multiple-tax people on the sale of used goods), it is so that they can track people down who might otherwise be hard to identify in the commission of a crime. But I'm not sure where you're going with this anyway.

That's pretty neat.

I'll be sure to look those books up.
To be ignorant is bad, but to be willfully so, much worse.

Since I have never lived in a stateless society, but only state-dominated ones, it's hard to speak from personal experience to all the particulars of how various things might function in a free society. History, however, tells us that they have, and that they would. Useful state functions, from property registries to dispute arbitration to law enforcement, have all in the past been provided by market actors.

For your trip to the library, here are three additional very enlightening books: The Machinery of Freedom by David Friedman, The Ethics of Liberty by Murray Rothbard, and The Not So Wild, Wild West by Terry L. Anderson and P. J. Hill. (You can probably find them online as well.)

Ignore the political content in the first two books if that's not your cup of tea, just go for the highly educational chapters on the historical examples I mentioned in my previous post. The third book speaks most directly to your concerns, using examples from the American West before the government took over.

In fact, this forum is a good example for how private law and arbitration emerge. Most recently, since he has not stepped forward to defend himself against the charges leveled at him, Nefario has now effectively been declared an outlaw and will be actively ostracized by the community. (In the old days in Iceland, being an outlaw would have meant that he was literally "outside the law" and could e.g. be killed without suffering any legal consequences.)

Right, that was my point. This example was in a situation without government and that database.

This is why anything anyone could possibly own is registered in a government controlled database.

That's why crimes must be enforced before they happen, at the conscious level.

I've been burned enough to know the signs. I know the majority of people right now aren't out for my blood, but I can't attribute that simply to human nature. I've watched far too many apocalypse movies for that.


I'll have to see if my library  has that book. The problem comes in enforcing crimes. Without any sort of registry, I say john stole my car. John says it has always been his car. How can anyone know what side to be on, or even who to go to for arbitration?

Spooner and Pinker. I like this Arto guy.