Topic: Why are people scared of taxes? - page 41. (Read 31542 times)

Oh I'd absolutely love a proper distribution of tax income, with more being spent on research than an overaggressive military. We'd have colonies already in that case. I just don't like the suggestions to remove taxation all together. The problem is that to be an effective politician, you have to align with one of the two major parties, which diametrically oppose each other on any conceivable issue. If I wanted to become a congressman, I would have to have a large quantity of money with which to rouse ad campaigns and make all sorts of signs and other worthless crap, win the election, and then I would be allowed to sit in a room with a bunch of large men, carefully acting out a silly dance specifically designed to allow them to remain in the room for the most number of years possible. The need to always be concerned about the next election causes decisions that might be considered radical to be a faux-pas. It's all quite silly, and a restructuring would be nice, but it won't happen. There's no mechanism for restructuring the government on that large of a scale. Tax spending could be restructured, but it most likely will not be simply because the men in their suits don't want to do anything that might mess up their dance.

Also, Wow Atlas, way to stereotype out the ass there.

Yes, the poor should feel free to waste their money on alcohol, lottery tickets, drugs and other consumable crud because everyone else will pick up the tab later.

We all have an infinite amount of wealth and labor to lift up somebody who consumes and consumes while producing nothing,

Imagine how they might be doing if the economy hadn't been hideously burdened by an overgrown parasite which, besides spending a trivially small proportion of its income on mars rovers and whatnot, pissed most of it away on pointless crap. Don't miss the wood for the trees.

Taxes are useful instruments to foster economic growth.

If the poor have no security net they will save as much as possible of their income for a rainy day.  By taxing the rich and establishing a security for the poor, the poor will spend more of their money on luxuries like chocolate, TVs and cars.  This is positive for the producers of chocolate, TVs cars.  Those are usually rich, but who cares.  Their market grows, and they can expand, employ more people, etc.  Everyone benefits.

If you take away the taxes, and the security net for the lowest workers and unemployed, they will spend less money on everything.  They may need to pay for insurances and similar instead, can not afford to develop their talents, and the economy as a whole will suffer.

Taxes can be overdone, of course, but some taxation is necessary for a sound economy.

They still haven't sent out any sorts of rovers or exploratory satellites, which are my specific areas of interest, along with colonies. I'd be perfectly happy to work at a private company if they offered better pay and a comparative goals, as well as a doctorate program. I just like NASA better, because it isn't focused on a profit. Private space companies have to offer a revenue generating service as their primary concern. If there are companies that are research oriented, please give me a link and I'll look into them. I'm always open to new companies I can apply for an internship at.

+1. One of the members of one of the boards I read is heavily involved in that stuff. It turns out that one of the biggest hurdles to private exploration of space is...



wait for it...



government.

Whoda thunk it?


Remind me which department was it that Wilbur and Orville were working for, again?

Have you noticed that private space companies are doing most of the innovation right now and they have been more efficient than NASA?

To Atlas:

Welcome to 'Merica. Besides, isn't this exactly what you advocate with AnaCap?

To Richy_T

Yeah, in an environment without any sort of federal government, no one would fund research groups like NASA. No one seems to grasp how essential it is that we move out into space. I feel like we're the one that won't move out of his parent's house. I also enjoy wearing hats.

I wasn't actually replying to you. But if the hat fits...

Pretty much. As long as my ivory tower has pork and beans, I'll keep shelling out my taxes. It's a waste of time to complain about the rain.

tl;dr version: Net beneficiary of taxes supports taxes.

Yup, pretty much. As long as I'm happy, why should I care at all about your displeasure with the situation? As long as I can do my research on things that actually matter I will never care significantly about governmental society. In 1000 years, no one will care whatsoever about the people that were obsessed with themselves. People in the future will care about the scientists that made leaps and bounds and got us off this rock. Or they'll all be dead, who knows, it's the future. My WILL, my INTEGRITY and my ABILITY are all focused on actually making something happen. You want to be a radical? Go ahead, break your teeth upon that nut. I'll be satisfied with my lot and actually accomplish something, thank you much. ^.^

I'm not the one advocating taxes.

So, in essence, you're a giant pussy. You would happily be raped in the ass by whatever schmuck that comes along as long you get a cage, some food some shelter and overall security. You might as well be a domesticated animal. You know what, you are an animal. You have no will, no integrity, nothing. As long as somebody feeds you, you'll be happy.

Some of us don't play that game. We want freedom to build, play and interact as we choose. We don't need a master. If we go hungry, we get the fuck up and take care of it. We live life on our terms and we value that.

Yes, I am pissed off at you because you would give my freedom away for your sense of security and safety.

The nature of power-hungry people is that they actively seek out power. Generally, they'll find it. I feel like a dictatorship by a BENEVOLENT dictator would be superior, but I have food and shelter, so what right do I have to complain?

So the solution is clear: Take some of the most flawed and power-hungry human beings and put them in positions of power, so they can regulate us.

The problem is that capitalism seems to encourage greed; a sort of 'grab as much as you can get away with' mentality. As long as humans are running the private sector, regulation and honor are going to be a problem. The flaw is not in the system, the flaw is in us.

Taxes are inherently bad, if it's not, then we should be paying 100% tax and have the government decide who gets what and how much.

Taxes are just a necessary evil, until we figure out a way for the free market to provide us with all the services we need while ensuring greed won't get in the way. Until that happens, we just have to deal with inefficient government funded services.

No one is really scared of taxes so much as they are scared of governments that use tax monies to murder and terrorize innocent people.