Topic: Why bitcoiners are not friendly physical? - page 3. (Read 790 times)

If they think Bitcoin is a scam they won't have involved themselves in the first place and if an announcement was to be made here instigating me and the rest of Bitcointalk users present in my locality to gather at a particular location to discuss how to go about with the promotion of Bitcoin in our community. I won't even bother to move a muscle, first of all that meeting poses danger to my finances and secondly I wouldn't even want strangers to know that I have Bitcoin in the first place or for them to know I'm what form my assets are. So Op there are so many reasons why someone might choose to discuss about financial issues online rather than to talk it face to face.

It's a nice point, but we are not expected to meet random persons. The both parties must have proven themselves to be close before moving forward to a scene. Like the introverts, they need to trust before he/she becomes an extrovert in their visitors presence. So, talking about Bitcoin meetings I don't think a well informed person would choose a dangerous venue for their meetings, so getting in trouble may not be on a high possibility. Like I said Depending on the kind of relationship they've built either in the forum or elsewhere.

We are aiming to be anonymous as much as possible on which it isnt surprising that bitcoiners would really be that keen on exposing themselves into their fellow bitcoiner too which it isnt really that surprising that they wouldnt really be that confident on making up some discussion or make transactions in between users who are involved on cryptocurrency.It isnt really that mean that they dont completely trust them but its better to be
that paranoid when it comes to your security rather than on being abducted or any other similar issues knowing that you've been dealing with crypto and these people might presume that
you are holding huge chunks on your stash which there's always that potential risks.

It's their personal choices. They are concern about their privacy and we should be too. We can not just give away our information to strangers. And also most of the holders are introverts, I think. Because I know myself. I am one of them, too. Extroverts can't stay staring to the screen for hours and hours and learn about bitcoin. This is just what I think.
And for discussing it online. Why do you feel confident on the writing test and fear the interview? It's the same. One thing you say, you can't take it back. But when you write, you can double-check it and fix your mistakes. Also research mid-way of your conversation. Not to mention, you can reach the whole world with internet. So why stick to your surroundings when you can reach the whole world?

I myself choose the same. I don't talk to people much, and I am good this way.

We once had this locally. It was not through the bitcointalk forum but elsewhere, and local community was very happy about it. However, we just arranged to meet on outside location to hangout as "like minded" peeps from the crypto space. This was not about making exchanges with one another. Though after meeting we tried scanning our QR codes on wallets, talked about it, also imagined the future of crypto in our country and everything.

However, we did not felt that we need to meet in person in future if we ever want to trade bitcoins. I think the Pee to Peer platform / mechanism was meant with simple instructions of having no middle man, having no privacy issues and document / hassle free transactions. We still think it's not worth it to reach out the market physically and try our bitcoins. We are doing just amazing the way it is today.

as we know bitcoin owners are anonymous, no one knows if we have bitcoin, if btc ownership is discussed in public then the initial concept of bitcoin is lost, then that's the reason why they are not friendly when meeting physically and always say I don't have my btc only monitoring bitcoin developments

In my opinion, people who are interested in bitcoin, as well as other cryptocurrencies, are very interesting, progressive and friendly people. 

They live both in the real world and in the virtual world at the same time.  At the same time, very often they do not strive for these two of their lives to intersect.  The sphere of finance is an intimate sphere. 

There is a proverb - "Money loves silence."  It means that financiers do not seek publicity. 

They are interested in financial flows, and not attention from other people. 

But at the same time, financiers are capable of real sincere friendship.

if what you mean is related to members in the forum and they happen to be around you. Most people who are active in cyberspace (online) have closed personalities. though not all, more like that.
and with regards to forum members, of course, some will still choose to remain anonymous, or perhaps decide to stay behind the scenes. nothing wrong with that.
don't equate every community to a motorcycle community or something else. that like to gather in coffee shops and discuss.

In regards to the bolded, I'm hearing/reading such  for the first time... and I'm quite surprised.
Well, people who understand Bitcoin really well wouldn't be ashamed to meet face to face unless they are doing so for the sake of safety, privacy or anonymity. There are Bitcoin meet-ups, seminars, physical stores, p2p physical exchange, etc, they mostly seem very enthusiastic about meeting each other. I have even discussed Bitcoin with relatives and didn't notice any shame, they were always willing to be part of the Network... maybe because they just trust me or feel safe with me. By the way, if your intention for Bitcoin is bad or you have seen or have been fed with too many bad Bitcoin-related news/activities you'll probably not want physical meet up with people you don't know or trust.
And there is another possiblity, alot of people in  groups, forums on whatsapp or the internet generally wouldn't want to be identified.

Bitcoin is not a scam and even those who hard a misconception about bitcoin are aware of that fact, and what make bitcoin users reluctant to meet face to face or becoming less vocal is the fact that bitcoin os not a crowd funding network and at that there is no need to preach anyone into picking interest in bitcoin.
Privacy is all that matters in Bitcoin!
You seems to have misunderstanding in the topic, privacy as bitcoin is privacy inclined, Bitcoin creator satoshi Nakamoto is unknown so then why do you have interest in meeting other people face to face, Bitcoin is trustless and at that once i don't have any deal with you there won't be needs for us to meet face to face.

Most introvert person doesn't like to talk anything especially if they don't know the person so maybe others think that they are not friendly because they are not talking and people have misconceptions about it. But for sure if you know those people they can talk once they trust you that you don't want to do any harm to them. But even if not an introvert for sure they also aware about the risk talking crypto things in public so I guess many people remain silent about it and make all of this discussion done privately especially on online because we know many people know already about crypto and if they know the people has a lot of holdings especially if they use their phone as their wallets then maybe they will be in danger with that scene.

So understand each other is the key so that you will not create any problem to other bitcoin user since investments is confidential matter.

Not all Bitcoin enthusiasts are want to tell and publish their identity to everyone, I don't think it's a healthy habit since criminal and fraudster are start from people who don't care with their own privacy. You may think privacy isn't that important because there are not a lot case related with low privacy, but it's actually have a relation, but people just don't aware if privacy is really important for their life.

Let's just think that they are introverted people or that they are very busy doing things. You should ask them why, because mostly their reasons are that they are shy or that it is an easier way to promote it online. Even if you asked me like that, I would say that I prefer it online since I do have things to do and don't have much time to have meetups. Though your purpose is good, but there are really introverted person or busy people, so you can't force them. Also, the audience in the online space is larger than in the physical one, as you need to approach them, and it also takes a lot of effort.

I was never that social before getting into bitcoin so I'm not going to start now lol 😆

Yeah, like the usual reaction that other people might be seen on them then they're just trying to remain lowkey. Those reasons that makes them stay in the shadows could be the real thing.
No one wants to get harmed just because they've been known an investor in bitcoin and has been too vocal with it. That's why, we can't blame anyone and including ourselves if there are get together like that and we're not showing publicly because of those harms that has been done to the others and, we don't want that to happen to us.

I think you are generalizing all bitcoiners too much.
Not that all bitcoiners are closed people like some bitcoiners you meet in your area.
Because I don't think everyone can immediately get along with other people they just met, right?
Everyone has a different character.
There are people who have an open/extroverted character, they are people who can easily adapt and like to talk face to face.
There are also people who have a closed/introverted character who prefer to communicate via social media because they lack confidence when meeting and talking in person.
And I don't think everyone has the same thoughts or goals even though they have the same hobbies right?

In the conditions that you experience, I think of course they must have their own reasons why they want to communicate online.
Maybe they are trying to adapt to you and get to know you first through online discussions before they decide to have a face-to-face conversation.
Maybe at that time they did not have much time to discuss directly because of their busy schedule.
If they have free time, they will definitely take the time and talk face to face with you.
At least they still want to take the time to discuss with you online, right?

If you have the thought that they think Bitcoin is a scam why do you call them bitcoiners?

I also don't want too many people to know I'm invested in bitcoin, I'm not ashamed, but I don't like to brag, and I don't want to be asked too much about my private life. Bitcoin is such a hot topic all over the place that most people would ask a lot of things if they knew you invested in bitcoin. Investing in bitcoin is very risky and I do not want to give financial advice to anyone including my loved ones.

None of these are the reason, for sure.
Some people value their anonymity as they value the privacy of their assets as well, coz there will be a possibility that your gonna be exposing some minor financial details that might be good enough for someone with vast knowledge in programming on how to infiltrate your wallet. I know this sounds crazy, but for some, it is not. Better safe than sorry.

i don't know the reason
why your friend can have such traits. but the human name must have a different nature,
and don't force to hang out with people who don't want to be with us, look for friends who can walk with us to success.

but in my opinion how could people be embarrassed to invest in bitcoin, in fact I personally feel proud because of investing in bitcoin.

If you show yourself rich and have a lot of money, you will also be attacked as usual, not only bitcoin. There are many reasons why they do not want to make their bitcoin investments and holdings public. In my case, since bitcoins in my country are not legal yet, public use of bitcoins will be noticed by the government and possibly fined. So investors in my country don't want to meet publicly to talk about bitcoin, we don't want others to know because it's not legal yet.