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Quote from: royalfestus on February 05, 2023, 04:36:09 PM

Bitcoin and cryptocurrency owners are vulnerable to hacking, and we can see this everywhere. When people participate in bounty programs, they often want to conceal their identities because they might be targeted. Many members of cryptocurrency groups on Telegram and Twitter receive scam mail and private messages from anonymous people, those who don't know about your portfolio, imagine if they did.

But I don't think that people will open their wallets and exchange or trade with each other when they are set to have a meeting and discuss more about crypto adoption. Remember @ OP stated that its intention is to talke about how to help propagate Bitcoin awareness but most of the Bitcoiners wanted to have the meeting on a social media platform where they can just chat about the possible approach.

More or less the people whom OP has contact with is lazy doing things or are paranoid about their physical safety and do not want to be exposed as person with a huge stash of Bitcoin.

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Quote from: Zanab247 on February 04, 2023, 09:22:56 AM

I was very happy to joined bitcointalk. org November 7 2020, but I came to discovered one thing in the community that is making me wondering, if bitcoiners don't trust themselves by seeing themselves face to face like the way church members or Muslim members love themselves by seeing themselves face to face after the service. Going to three years now, am trying to see some of the bitcoiners in my area to discuss with them how to join hands together to promote Bitcoin in the society but they said they prefer discussing it online than see each other physical.
Are they ashame to be a bitcoiners? or they are among the people that think Bitcoin is a scam?
Why Bitcoin users are afraid of see each other physical?

They're not ashamed, it's possible that they just want to protect themselves personally because of the incidents that has happened before like with a $5 wrench attack.
It's like these incidents[1] that has been seen only for 2022.

[1] The 8 Worst Bitcoin ‘$5 Wrench Attacks’ of 2022

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Quote from: Zanab247 on February 04, 2023, 09:22:56 AM

I was very happy to joined bitcointalk. org November 7 2020, but I came to discovered one thing in the community that is making me wondering, if bitcoiners don't trust themselves by seeing themselves face to face like the way church members or Muslim members love themselves by seeing themselves face to face after the service. Going to three years now, am trying to see some of the bitcoiners in my area to discuss with them how to join hands together to promote Bitcoin in the society but they said they prefer discussing it online than see each other physical.
Are they ashame to be a bitcoiners? or they are among the people that think Bitcoin is a scam?
Why Bitcoin users are afraid of see each other physical?

Many bitcoiners are security and privacy conscious and do their best not to break their opsec. For example, after the Ledger leak I couldn't help myself not to look at the leaked db and I found lots of bitcoiners from my area. Also public persons who were anti-bitcoin oriented, turned out to be Bitcoin hodlers too! Can you imagine how surprised I was? Roll Eyes

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Bitcoin and cryptocurrency owners are vulnerable to hacking, and we can see this everywhere. When people participate in bounty programs, they often want to conceal their identities because they might be targeted. Many members of cryptocurrency groups on Telegram and Twitter receive scam mail and private messages from anonymous people, those who don't know about your portfolio, imagine if they did.

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Quote from: Zanab247 on February 04, 2023, 09:22:56 AM

I was very happy to joined bitcointalk. org November 7 2020, but I came to discovered one thing in the community that is making me wondering, if bitcoiners don't trust themselves by seeing themselves face to face like the way church members or Muslim members love themselves by seeing themselves face to face after the service. Going to three years now, am trying to see some of the bitcoiners in my area to discuss with them how to join hands together to promote Bitcoin in the society but they said they prefer discussing it online than see each other physical.
Are they ashame to be a bitcoiners? or they are among the people that think Bitcoin is a scam?
Why Bitcoin users are afraid of see each other physical?

You are maybe right but just in some special cases and some people, not all the bitcoiners. The reason why most of the bitcoiners and people who use bitcoin prefer to stay away from other people physically and they even prefer to don't share their information with other people is their privacy. Generally, the people who start using bitcoin and invest in it usually prefer to have their privacy and that's important for them that's as you said why you can't see them in churches talking and discussing bitcoin so much. However, still there are some people who prefer to even teach about bitcoin to other people in these places and you can find more information about it here on the forum.

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Quote from: Zanab247 on February 04, 2023, 09:22:56 AM

I was very happy to joined bitcointalk. org November 7 2020, but I came to discovered one thing in the community that is making me wondering, if bitcoiners don't trust themselves by seeing themselves face to face like the way church members or Muslim members love themselves by seeing themselves face to face after the service. Going to three years now, am trying to see some of the bitcoiners in my area to discuss with them how to join hands together to promote Bitcoin in the society but they said they prefer discussing it online than see each other physical.
Are they ashame to be a bitcoiners? or they are among the people that think Bitcoin is a scam?
Why Bitcoin users are afraid of see each other physical?

First of all bitcoin is not a religion and such a comparison seems to be out of place, with this out of the way there are many reasons for this, bitcoin gives us a level of privacy which is basically lost on the fiat system and it is to be expected many persons are not willing to lose it just to meet a few members of the community, and even more importantly the whole world is moving towards online communications instead of face to face meetings, then we should not be surprised bitcoin users have this preference too.

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Quote from: Zanab247 on February 04, 2023, 09:22:56 AM

Why Bitcoin users are afraid of see each other physical?

While I won't play anybody's solicitor on this, I will like to put my two cents forward on it. I think the reason for dodging to see other bitcoiners won't be far from the suspicion of trust. Anything involving money is always high risk and this is where trust comes to play. A lot of bitcoiners had been robbed in the past through such exposure, either on social media through their loud mouths or in physical meetings such as what you're suggesting. So, I guess the new bitcoiners have learnt how to keep distance and their mouths shut

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Quote from: Zanab247 on February 04, 2023, 09:22:56 AM

I was very happy to joined bitcointalk. org November 7 2020, but I came to discovered one thing in the community that is making me wondering, if bitcoiners don't trust themselves by seeing themselves face to face like the way church members or Muslim members love themselves by seeing themselves face to face after the service. Going to three years now, am trying to see some of the bitcoiners in my area to discuss with them how to join hands together to promote Bitcoin in the society but they said they prefer discussing it online than see each other physical.
Are they ashame to be a bitcoiners? or they are among the people that think Bitcoin is a scam?
Why Bitcoin users are afraid of see each other physical?

I still don't get what you mean by bitcoiners are not ready to see you face to face. If you want to promote Bitcoin, you don't need to force people to join you against there wish. Everyone is trying hard to be anonymous here and if you tend to make them to unveil themselves to you tell you are not meeting up to what had been proposed by Satoshi himself.

This is a faceless forum and you need to respect everyone opinion whether it suit your interest or not. Since you one would force you to promote Bitcoin by gathering the attention of people that may not have interest in what you want. You need to go ahead and do whatever ways you know how to do it best and promote Bitcoin. You can't force people to meet them face to face, just do your own thing and be happy.

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In addition to my post above, I want to share a story with you. A newcomer got a job at my main place of work. And recently, the top management at lunchtime arranged a discussion on the topic of bitcoin (they are far from cryptocurrencies, they only heard about it in the news on TV). At such moments, I sit silently and smile looking at them. So, that newcomer boasted to them that he knows about the crypt, exchanges and IPO. He spoke in front of them in cryptocurrency terms, bragging. They didn't understand anything, and the newcomer felt very important. I wanted to make myself a facepalm. And later he asked me if I knew anything about cryptocurrencies, I said NO. I think my attitude is right. What do you think?

To protect your privacy from them because, you don't know who they are in the community. Now I know why bitcoiners don't meet anyhow physical to discuss anything, I believe, I have learned from your story man, which I will like to avoid such people in my environment for now because Bitcoin is not legalized in my country, maybe is also part of some of the reasons they are avoiding physical meeting in the environment.

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In addition to my post above, I want to share a story with you. A newcomer got a job at my main place of work. And recently, the top management at lunchtime arranged a discussion on the topic of bitcoin (they are far from cryptocurrencies, they only heard about it in the news on TV). At such moments, I sit silently and smile looking at them. So, that newcomer boasted to them that he knows about the crypt, exchanges and IPO. He spoke in front of them in cryptocurrency terms, bragging. They didn't understand anything, and the newcomer felt very important. I wanted to make myself a facepalm. And later he asked me if I knew anything about cryptocurrencies, I said NO. I think my attitude is right. What do you think?

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OP, there are a millions reasons on why people you meet on here would not want to meet up physically. People do things for different reason. Humans have got different characters and personalities and you wouldn’t expect people to behave the way you would want them to or the way you would like.

I think people are generally skeptical and a bit hesitant if I might add to meet up with some stranger you met online and for the first time also. Asides that, people love and value their privacy and would protect it at all costs. I know I do value mine.

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Quote from: KingsDen on February 04, 2023, 04:31:35 PM

Op your observation is right. When I newly joined this forum I thought that before 1 year I will get to meet many people here in person. I think I made a post about it but people told me that it might not happen. I am gradually getting to 2yrs and I haven't met as many people I thought I'll meet and now the zeal of trying to hook up is no longer there.

The anonymous nature of Satoshi is the reason for this, since they said that we are all Satoshi. Maybe we are preserving his legacies.

You can plan meetings between bitcointalk members if you invite those members to discussion group. I only have local users in mind, and the possibility of creating such meeting is huge. However I think these people will remain anonymous as they will maintain their privacy in the forum by not publicly mentioning their username.

So far I've met two different users face to face, it's fun but really it's nothing more than sharing experiences and other general discussion. Nothing specific to discuss as these people seem to only be interested in the profits made from bitcoin.

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OP, it all has to do with security....

There are a lot of people out there with bad intentions.... and they know if they can "dox" you...then they might get their hands on your coins. You can have the best security in the world, but if someone gets their hands on you or your family... then you will eventually give up your hiding place... Roll Eyes

Also, some people needs to stay anonymous.... because Bitcoin might be banned in their country... so they have to hide their real identity to protect their wealth. Wink

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Maybe you’ve just been unlucky, there are lots of bitcoin meet ups in different countries. The people you’ve spoken to might be introvert & not want to meet people from the internet. Maybe they are bitcoin rich & see it as too risky to meet people.

Keep going, you might find people who are more interested in meeting up. I think you’ve just interacted with people who enjoy a level of anonymity which is their right.

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Quote from: Zanab247 on February 04, 2023, 09:22:56 AM

I was very happy to joined bitcointalk. org November 7 2020, but I came to discovered one thing in the community that is making me wondering, if bitcoiners don't trust themselves by seeing themselves face to face like the way church members or Muslim members love themselves by seeing themselves face to face after the service. Going to three years now, am trying to see some of the bitcoiners in my area to discuss with them how to join hands together to promote Bitcoin in the society but they said they prefer discussing it online than see each other physical.
Are they ashame to be a bitcoiners? or they are among the people that think Bitcoin is a scam?
Why Bitcoin users are afraid of see each other physical?

because it's a matter of anonymity. but I think not all of them are like that. even I and my workers have casual discussions about crypto and bitcoin every day. we even gave each other quite useful information. But yeah, to spread it directly with foreigners, I think it's quite difficult. but at least the people around me have been more open about bitcoin related discussions. but we never had a special meeting about bitcoin. but when we met and chatted, unconsciously our chat flowed into chat about bitcoin. but I'd rather just be a good listener.

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Quote from: Zanab247 on February 04, 2023, 09:22:56 AM

I was very happy to joined bitcointalk. org November 7 2020, but I came to discovered one thing in the community that is making me wondering, if bitcoiners don't trust themselves by seeing themselves face to face like the way church members or Muslim members love themselves by seeing themselves face to face after the service. Going to three years now, am trying to see some of the bitcoiners in my area to discuss with them how to join hands together to promote Bitcoin in the society but they said they prefer discussing it online than see each other physical.
Are they ashame to be a bitcoiners? or they are among the people that think Bitcoin is a scam?
Why Bitcoin users are afraid of see each other physical?

I believe it is basically because of safety. If not for the Bitcoin promoters on youtube and a few celebs that can afford to advertise themselves like that, I believe other Bitcoiners might not want to get to that level of letting you know who they are, why do you think there is this thing against KYC even at the exchange level even apart from your Docs been stolen or sold? mainly because of safety and not because of not being friendly. MHO.

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It can also be added that while staying on this forum, some people invited their friends here, but even they did not disclose their nicknames. Sometimes it seems only from your posts that you are close to some people in terms of thoughts, views, and positions, but other than that, you do not know anything about the person. Neither who he is nor his country, gender, or age.
If you want to call yourself a bitcoin devotee, you should be closer to this position and not to the role of a preacher, to which no one has appointed you. Moreover, it is most likely that you do not have all the knowledge to teach. If the religion you belong to preaches modesty, then people who have and are interested in bitcoin should also have this property. For everything else, there is the internet.

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Quote from: S A KHAIR on February 04, 2023, 06:28:58 PM

Quote from: Zanab247 on February 04, 2023, 09:22:56 AM

I was very happy to joined bitcointalk. org November 7 2020, but I came to discovered one thing in the community that is making me wondering, if bitcoiners don't trust themselves by seeing themselves face to face like the way church members or Muslim members love themselves by seeing themselves face to face after the service. Going to three years now, am trying to see some of the bitcoiners in my area to discuss with them how to join hands together to promote Bitcoin in the society but they said they prefer discussing it online than see each other physical.
Are they ashame to be a bitcoiners? or they are among the people that think Bitcoin is a scam?
Why Bitcoin users are afraid of see each other physical?

I also don't want to talk about my bitcoin investment with anyone outside, not even my close friends. Simply because I like to remain anonymous to those around me, I don't want trouble coming to me. Where I live bitcoin is not legal yet and if I flaunt it I could even get in trouble with the government.

There is no basis for revealing one's identity in the name of being a bitcointalk member this is faceless platform where many information about bitcoin and altcoins is discussed without necessarily putting up a physical appearance even in our Local board there isn't discussion of physical meeting because a lot of members would have been busy with their day jobs, infact some members residential location might be far from each which makes any form of get together or meeting not feasible thus there is no point in initiating a physical meeting with anybody because of our anonymous ways of doing things.

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It's proving if those people are somewhat have a lot money because they're don't want to reveal their holdings to you. Some people think a person wear branded cloth and other limited accessory is really rich, but it's not actually. He only want to flex and show off his wealth in order to satisfy himself and get a respect from many people, but a real rich person trying to be a low value person and life simple. If you visit his house, don't surprised if he have a big house, many stuffs and high spec PC.

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Perhaps most Bitcoiners are nerdy and introvert. Grin

Most tech savvy people are kinda socially awkward(like me). Grin

AFAIK, there are lots of crypto conventions, where like minded people can gather up and discuss the future of crypto.
Maybe the Bitcoin users in your area are afraid that someone could kidnap them (or their family member) and ask for a crypto ransom. Do you live in an area with high rates of criminal activity? It's OK for most Bitcoiners to be cautious and to not reveal here and there that they own Bitcoins. I would do the same thing. I would never reveal to a stranger that I have Bitcoins, even if the stranger is a crypto supporter.

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