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Quote from: BADecker on January 02, 2016, 06:08:06 PM

Religious enough to religiously reply to some of these posts. How religious? Religious enough to give you an Activity rating of 546 with 791 posts in 40 pages... as of this writing.

Quote from: Gronthaing on January 05, 2016, 12:20:20 AM

^ didn't say I didn't care about the forum. Only that I wasn't religious. So didn't care about making a point that religion improved life or something. Because I don't believe it does. Just saying that religion isn't unchangeable. It's made up by the people who believe in it. Is posting this religious to you?

Thank you for responding so religiously.

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^ didn't say I didn't care about the forum. Only that I wasn't religious. So didn't care about making a point that religion improved life or something. Because I don't believe it does. Just saying that religion isn't unchangeable. It's made up by the people who believe in it. Is posting this religious to you?

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Quote from: Gronthaing on January 02, 2016, 01:44:43 PM

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Quote from: Gronthaing on January 02, 2016, 01:01:51 AM

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Quote from: helloeverybody on January 01, 2016, 09:51:30 AM

If God is almighty and is the final judge then im sure he/she/it wouldnt be needing the help of man to send people they deem unworthy to him to be judged. Yet another stupid religion with stupid laws. In 2016 we shouldnt be entertaining such draconian laws.

I believe that no religion teach hatred, cruelty, fighting with any human being whether he is Muslim, Hindu,christian or budhessim. There are some leaders of any religion who makes mistakes due to that all the community of that religion suffers.

But the nature of religion is to harden and unify the participants' belief systems.

Therefore, it does not matter nor does it make one bit of difference "what you believe."

Of course it matters. Even more if he practices any religion. How he chooses to believe in it determines what that religion will be like. Religion doesn't come from above. Or is immutable. It's made by the people. Maybe religions and their leaders want to control their followers one way. But its the people that must participate for it to happen. And not everyone follows their religion the same way. Or their holy books to the letter or the words of their leaders. I used this example before: compare indonesia and saudi arabia for example. Both majority muslim countries. But very different. One is an authoritarian hell. The other is a secular democracy.

You make a good point.

However the point you make is the ability of people to overcome injustice and hardship forced on them by the religion of their culture. Not the enhancement of their life by that religion.

Not a religious person. So that isn't a point I care about. Though many believe religion can improve their lives. Just saying that like some christian countries or muslim countries can find a way for religion to exist without causing problems so can the rest. Religion doesn't need to be about hardship or injustice. It is many times used that way to control desperate people. But that isn't the only way people use it.

Religious enough to religiously reply to some of these posts. How religious? Religious enough to give you an Activity rating of 546 with 791 posts in 40 pages... as of this writing.

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Quote from: Gronthaing on January 02, 2016, 01:44:43 PM

Quote from: Spendulus on January 02, 2016, 08:17:48 AM

Quote from: Gronthaing on January 02, 2016, 01:01:51 AM

Quote from: Spendulus on January 01, 2016, 11:00:43 AM

Quote from: ausbit on January 01, 2016, 10:08:28 AM

Quote from: helloeverybody on January 01, 2016, 09:51:30 AM

If God is almighty and is the final judge then im sure he/she/it wouldnt be needing the help of man to send people they deem unworthy to him to be judged. Yet another stupid religion with stupid laws. In 2016 we shouldnt be entertaining such draconian laws.

I believe that no religion teach hatred, cruelty, fighting with any human being whether he is Muslim, Hindu,christian or budhessim. There are some leaders of any religion who makes mistakes due to that all the community of that religion suffers.

But the nature of religion is to harden and unify the participants' belief systems.

Therefore, it does not matter nor does it make one bit of difference "what you believe."

Of course it matters. Even more if he practices any religion. How he chooses to believe in it determines what that religion will be like. Religion doesn't come from above. Or is immutable. It's made by the people. Maybe religions and their leaders want to control their followers one way. But its the people that must participate for it to happen. And not everyone follows their religion the same way. Or their holy books to the letter or the words of their leaders. I used this example before: compare indonesia and saudi arabia for example. Both majority muslim countries. But very different. One is an authoritarian hell. The other is a secular democracy.

You make a good point.

However the point you make is the ability of people to overcome injustice and hardship forced on them by the religion of their culture. Not the enhancement of their life by that religion.

Not a religious person. So that isn't a point I care about. Though many believe religion can improve their lives. Just saying that like some christian countries or muslim countries can find a way for religion to exist without causing problems so can the rest. Religion doesn't need to be about hardship or injustice. It is many times used that way to control desperate people. But that isn't the only way people use it.

Can you try to synthesize a good general argument from these ramblings? Let me - respectfully - show an analogous problem stated similarly.

Coca Cola is very bad.

Coca Cola is very good

Neither can be synthesized into a coherent general argument which is "true."

Both are simply descriptive of phenomena.

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Quote from: Spendulus on January 02, 2016, 08:17:48 AM

Quote from: Gronthaing on January 02, 2016, 01:01:51 AM

Quote from: Spendulus on January 01, 2016, 11:00:43 AM

Quote from: ausbit on January 01, 2016, 10:08:28 AM

Quote from: helloeverybody on January 01, 2016, 09:51:30 AM

If God is almighty and is the final judge then im sure he/she/it wouldnt be needing the help of man to send people they deem unworthy to him to be judged. Yet another stupid religion with stupid laws. In 2016 we shouldnt be entertaining such draconian laws.

I believe that no religion teach hatred, cruelty, fighting with any human being whether he is Muslim, Hindu,christian or budhessim. There are some leaders of any religion who makes mistakes due to that all the community of that religion suffers.

But the nature of religion is to harden and unify the participants' belief systems.

Therefore, it does not matter nor does it make one bit of difference "what you believe."

Of course it matters. Even more if he practices any religion. How he chooses to believe in it determines what that religion will be like. Religion doesn't come from above. Or is immutable. It's made by the people. Maybe religions and their leaders want to control their followers one way. But its the people that must participate for it to happen. And not everyone follows their religion the same way. Or their holy books to the letter or the words of their leaders. I used this example before: compare indonesia and saudi arabia for example. Both majority muslim countries. But very different. One is an authoritarian hell. The other is a secular democracy.

You make a good point.

However the point you make is the ability of people to overcome injustice and hardship forced on them by the religion of their culture. Not the enhancement of their life by that religion.

Not a religious person. So that isn't a point I care about. Though many believe religion can improve their lives. Just saying that like some christian countries or muslim countries can find a way for religion to exist without causing problems so can the rest. Religion doesn't need to be about hardship or injustice. It is many times used that way to control desperate people. But that isn't the only way people use it.

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Quote from: Gronthaing on January 02, 2016, 01:01:51 AM

Quote from: Spendulus on January 01, 2016, 11:00:43 AM

Quote from: ausbit on January 01, 2016, 10:08:28 AM

Quote from: helloeverybody on January 01, 2016, 09:51:30 AM

If God is almighty and is the final judge then im sure he/she/it wouldnt be needing the help of man to send people they deem unworthy to him to be judged. Yet another stupid religion with stupid laws. In 2016 we shouldnt be entertaining such draconian laws.

I believe that no religion teach hatred, cruelty, fighting with any human being whether he is Muslim, Hindu,christian or budhessim. There are some leaders of any religion who makes mistakes due to that all the community of that religion suffers.

But the nature of religion is to harden and unify the participants' belief systems.

Therefore, it does not matter nor does it make one bit of difference "what you believe."

Of course it matters. Even more if he practices any religion. How he chooses to believe in it determines what that religion will be like. Religion doesn't come from above. Or is immutable. It's made by the people. Maybe religions and their leaders want to control their followers one way. But its the people that must participate for it to happen. And not everyone follows their religion the same way. Or their holy books to the letter or the words of their leaders. I used this example before: compare indonesia and saudi arabia for example. Both majority muslim countries. But very different. One is an authoritarian hell. The other is a secular democracy.

You make a good point.

However the point you make is the ability of people to overcome injustice and hardship forced on them by the religion of their culture. Not the enhancement of their life by that religion.

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Quote from: Spendulus on January 01, 2016, 11:00:43 AM

Quote from: ausbit on January 01, 2016, 10:08:28 AM

Quote from: helloeverybody on January 01, 2016, 09:51:30 AM

If God is almighty and is the final judge then im sure he/she/it wouldnt be needing the help of man to send people they deem unworthy to him to be judged. Yet another stupid religion with stupid laws. In 2016 we shouldnt be entertaining such draconian laws.

I believe that no religion teach hatred, cruelty, fighting with any human being whether he is Muslim, Hindu,christian or budhessim. There are some leaders of any religion who makes mistakes due to that all the community of that religion suffers.

But the nature of religion is to harden and unify the participants' belief systems.

Therefore, it does not matter nor does it make one bit of difference "what you believe."

Of course it matters. Even more if he practices any religion. How he chooses to believe in it determines what that religion will be like. Religion doesn't come from above. Or is immutable. It's made by the people. Maybe religions and their leaders want to control their followers one way. But its the people that must participate for it to happen. And not everyone follows their religion the same way. Or their holy books to the letter or the words of their leaders. I used this example before: compare indonesia and saudi arabia for example. Both majority muslim countries. But very different. One is an authoritarian hell. The other is a secular democracy.

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Quote from: ausbit on January 01, 2016, 10:08:28 AM

Quote from: helloeverybody on January 01, 2016, 09:51:30 AM

If God is almighty and is the final judge then im sure he/she/it wouldnt be needing the help of man to send people they deem unworthy to him to be judged. Yet another stupid religion with stupid laws. In 2016 we shouldnt be entertaining such draconian laws.

I believe that no religion teach hatred, cruelty, fighting with any human being whether he is Muslim, Hindu,christian or budhessim. There are some leaders of any religion who makes mistakes due to that all the community of that religion suffers.

But the nature of religion is to harden and unify the participants' belief systems.

Therefore, it does not matter nor does it make one bit of difference "what you believe."

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Quote from: helloeverybody on January 01, 2016, 09:51:30 AM

If God is almighty and is the final judge then im sure he/she/it wouldnt be needing the help of man to send people they deem unworthy to him to be judged. Yet another stupid religion with stupid laws. In 2016 we shouldnt be entertaining such draconian laws.

I believe that no religion teach hatred, cruelty, fighting with any human being whether he is Muslim, Hindu,christian or budhessim. There are some leaders of any religion who makes mistakes due to that all the community of that religion suffers.

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Quote from: PrikiNo.1 on January 01, 2016, 08:55:50 AM

Dude, I think you wrong! Islam don't hate people...

I mean, I am christian, but I don't have nothing against muslims because I know that these people when they will read, research and understand the Bible will figure out that they belong with the christians. The Prophet Mohamed is also another mortal person who was talking about Enoch, Noah, Moses, Abraham, Christ and the Apostles. His book should be included in the Old Testament if we want to have the completely story about our origins...

I have a friend who is mislim also and he agree with me. He think that we should all live like one family. Preachers create the religion like an application so they can divide, control and rule above the humanity!

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If God is almighty and is the final judge then im sure he/she/it wouldnt be needing the help of man to send people they deem unworthy to him to be judged. Yet another stupid religion with stupid laws. In 2016 we shouldnt be entertaining such draconian laws.

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Quote from: Wilikon on January 01, 2016, 02:40:35 AM

Quote from: J. J. Phillips on December 31, 2015, 02:21:51 PM

Quote from: daarul50 on December 30, 2015, 08:35:39 PM

...
Btw, where it happened?
every religion must have rules, just as every country must have the rules of each
the picture above is called the sentence 'rajam'
Such punishment is given to a person who has committed fornication outside marriage
That Islamic law
Islam will not punish someone if someone is innocent
Islamic rules not made by human, but Islamic rules made by the Lord
Sorry if my language a little messed up, I am still in the learning phase Cool

Your English isn't very good yet, but we can understand what you're saying.

Your bigger problem is that...we can understand what you're saying.

You're saying (1) "Islam will not punish someone if someone is innocent" and (2) "Islamic rules not made by human, but Islamic rules made by the Lord".

(1) makes me seriously question if you have a reasonable grasp of the term "innocent" vs. "guilty" and reasonable ways to determine the difference.

(2) implies you believe insane "Islamic rules" were actually determined by a "Lord" -- presumably the nonexistent Allah -- as described by a delusional violent illiterate 7th century pedophile.

If I had a religion, one of its rules would be to cane the piss out of anyone dumb enough to believe in Islam. If they continued to believe in Islam, they would get the shit caned out of them. As a final step if they continued to believe in Islam, President Garrison would fuck them till they're dead.

I mean, every religion has to have rules. Those would be the rules of my religion.

But don't worry. The innocent would never be punished. Only those guilty of being so goddamn stupid as to believe in Islam.

These assertions (bolded) are remarkably similar to a saying which is quite famous in the Western world. The modern phrase, "Kill them all and let God sort them out."

From Wikipedia...

Arnaud Amaury or Arnaud Amalric (died 1225) was a Cistercian abbot who took a prominent role in the Albigensian Crusade. He is most remembered for allegedly advising a soldier, who was worrying about killing orthodox Catholics along with the heretics during the sack of the Cathar stronghold of Béziers, Caedite eos. Novit enim Dominus qui sunt eius. ("Kill them. For the Lord knows those that are His own.")

We view this as stupid, ignorant, barbaric today.

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Quote from: PrikiNo.1 on January 01, 2016, 08:55:50 AM

Dude, I think you wrong! Islam don't hate people...

I mean, I am christian, but I don't have nothing against muslims because I know that these people when they will read, research and understand the Bible will figure out that they belong with the christians. The Prophet Mohamed is also another mortal person who was talking about Enoch, Noah, Moses, Abraham, Christ and the Apostles. His book should be included in the Old Testament if we want to have the completely story about our origins...

I have a friend who is mislim also and he agree with me. He think that we should all live like one family. Preachers create the religion like an application so they can divide, control and rule above the humanity!

You have a just-world syndrome. One big family is impossible.

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Dude, I think you wrong! Islam don't hate people...

I mean, I am christian, but I don't have nothing against muslims because I know that these people when they will read, research and understand the Bible will figure out that they belong with the christians. The Prophet Mohamed is also another mortal person who was talking about Enoch, Noah, Moses, Abraham, Christ and the Apostles. His book should be included in the Old Testament if we want to have the completely story about our origins...

I have a friend who is mislim also and he agree with me. He think that we should all live like one family. Preachers create the religion like an application so they can divide, control and rule above the humanity!

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Quote from: Wilikon on January 01, 2016, 02:40:35 AM

Quote from: J. J. Phillips on December 31, 2015, 02:21:51 PM

Quote from: daarul50 on December 30, 2015, 08:35:39 PM

...
Btw, where it happened?
every religion must have rules, just as every country must have the rules of each
the picture above is called the sentence 'rajam'
Such punishment is given to a person who has committed fornication outside marriage
That Islamic law
Islam will not punish someone if someone is innocent
Islamic rules not made by human, but Islamic rules made by the Lord
Sorry if my language a little messed up, I am still in the learning phase Cool

Your English isn't very good yet, but we can understand what you're saying.

Your bigger problem is that...we can understand what you're saying.

You're saying (1) "Islam will not punish someone if someone is innocent" and (2) "Islamic rules not made by human, but Islamic rules made by the Lord".

(1) makes me seriously question if you have a reasonable grasp of the term "innocent" vs. "guilty" and reasonable ways to determine the difference.

(2) implies you believe insane "Islamic rules" were actually determined by a "Lord" -- presumably the nonexistent Allah -- as described by a delusional violent illiterate 7th century pedophile.

If I had a religion, one of its rules would be to cane the piss out of anyone dumb enough to believe in Islam. If they continued to believe in Islam, they would get the shit caned out of them. As a final step if they continued to believe in Islam, President Garrison would fuck them till they're dead.

I mean, every religion has to have rules. Those would be the rules of my religion.

But don't worry. The innocent would never be punished. Only those guilty of being so goddamn stupid as to believe in Islam.

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We need to be patient with our Islamic brothers and sisters. Everyone needs religion to feel comfortable in life. Even if that religion is the religion of atheism. When Muslims finally determine that their religion is false and is destroying them (like many have over the years) what will they have left? They need a viable religion to grab hold of. They can't just jump off the religion bandwagon entirely.

While modern science and atheism are the popular religions of today, Christianity is probably the most stable one, which makes the greatest sense when it is studied in detail. But it flies in the face of Islam. So, it will be hard for Muslims to accept it... at least without some work being done by the Holy Spirit.

Poor Muslims. So lost in the dark.

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Quote from: J. J. Phillips on December 31, 2015, 02:21:51 PM

Quote from: daarul50 on December 30, 2015, 08:35:39 PM

...
Btw, where it happened?
every religion must have rules, just as every country must have the rules of each
the picture above is called the sentence 'rajam'
Such punishment is given to a person who has committed fornication outside marriage
That Islamic law
Islam will not punish someone if someone is innocent
Islamic rules not made by human, but Islamic rules made by the Lord
Sorry if my language a little messed up, I am still in the learning phase Cool

Your English isn't very good yet, but we can understand what you're saying.

Your bigger problem is that...we can understand what you're saying.

You're saying (1) "Islam will not punish someone if someone is innocent" and (2) "Islamic rules not made by human, but Islamic rules made by the Lord".

(1) makes me seriously question if you have a reasonable grasp of the term "innocent" vs. "guilty" and reasonable ways to determine the difference.

(2) implies you believe insane "Islamic rules" were actually determined by a "Lord" -- presumably the nonexistent Allah -- as described by a delusional violent illiterate 7th century pedophile.

If I had a religion, one of its rules would be to cane the piss out of anyone dumb enough to believe in Islam. If they continued to believe in Islam, they would get the shit caned out of them. As a final step if they continued to believe in Islam, President Garrison would fuck them till they're dead.

I mean, every religion has to have rules. Those would be the rules of my religion.

But don't worry. The innocent would never be punished. Only those guilty of being so goddamn stupid as to believe in Islam.

My question was left unanswered here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13221503

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Islam and Nazism are belief systems, not races.

Quote from: daarul50 on December 30, 2015, 08:35:39 PM

...
Btw, where it happened?
every religion must have rules, just as every country must have the rules of each
the picture above is called the sentence 'rajam'
Such punishment is given to a person who has committed fornication outside marriage
That Islamic law
Islam will not punish someone if someone is innocent
Islamic rules not made by human, but Islamic rules made by the Lord
Sorry if my language a little messed up, I am still in the learning phase Cool

Your English isn't very good yet, but we can understand what you're saying.

Your bigger problem is that...we can understand what you're saying.

You're saying (1) "Islam will not punish someone if someone is innocent" and (2) "Islamic rules not made by human, but Islamic rules made by the Lord".

(1) makes me seriously question if you have a reasonable grasp of the term "innocent" vs. "guilty" and reasonable ways to determine the difference.

(2) implies you believe insane "Islamic rules" were actually determined by a "Lord" -- presumably the nonexistent Allah -- as described by a delusional violent illiterate 7th century pedophile.

If I had a religion, one of its rules would be to cane the piss out of anyone dumb enough to believe in Islam. If they continued to believe in Islam, they would get the shit caned out of them. As a final step if they continued to believe in Islam, President Garrison would fuck them till they're dead.

I mean, every religion has to have rules. Those would be the rules of my religion.

But don't worry. The innocent would never be punished. Only those guilty of being so goddamn stupid as to believe in Islam.

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Quote from: daarul50 on December 30, 2015, 08:35:39 PM

....

Btw, where it happened?
every religion must have rules, just as every country must have the rules of each
the picture above is called the sentence 'rajam'
Such punishment is given to a person who has committed fornication outside marriage
That Islamic law
Islam will not punish someone if someone is innocent
Islamic rules not made by human, but Islamic rules made by the Lord
Sorry if my language a little messed up, I am still in the learning phase Cool

Well, I call bullshit.

There's no hiding behind "Islamic rules made by the Lord."

There's no hiding behind "Islam will not punish someone if someone is innocent."

There's no hiding behind cruel and barbaric savagry with a Shield of the TRUE RELIGION.

Total bullshit.

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Quote from: daarul50 on December 30, 2015, 08:35:39 PM

Such punishment is given to a person who has committed fornication outside marriage

She didn't engaged herself in fornication with anyone. She was simply talking to someone according to the news reports. There is no proof for any activity of sexual nature. Some retarded cleric, who had issues with this woman earlier, used this opportunity to frame her. It surprises me that people who could read and write in English are defending this.

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Those Demanding Free Speech Limits to Fight ISIS Pose a Greater Threat to U.S. Than ISIS

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Newt Gingrich gave a speech in New Hampshire in which, as he put it afterward, he "called for a serious debate about the First Amendment and how terrorists are abusing our rights — using them as they once used passenger jets — to threaten and kill Americans." In that speech, Gingrich argued:

Either before we lose a city, or, if we are truly stupid, after we lose a city, we will adopt rules of engagement that use every technology we can find to break up (terrorists') capacity to use the internet, to break up their capacity to use free speech [protections] and to go after people who want to kill us — to stop them from recruiting people before they get to reach out and convince young people to destroy their lives while destroying us.

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