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Topic: Why do people hate trumps wall.. - page 4. (Read 1035 times)

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November 18, 2018, 06:02:45 AM
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The US already has a border.  People hate Trump's wall for many reasons

1. It costs money-  Americans love to pretend there is no money for things many of us consider important but suddenly want to spend money on something like a wall.  Mexico will not pay for it.

2. It won't work- building a wall at the border won't keep out illegal immigrants because most of them fly into our country

3. Its a humanitarian disaster- if people are trying to flee a dangerous situation, a wall can cause them to be backed into a corner.  Freedom of movement is seen as a major human right to many.  yes you can make it illegal to run across a border but don't physically stop people who may be in danger.

4. Its an ecological disaster- the fragmentation of all habitat along the border would put unneded pressure on many species.  You are essentially cutting many populations into two groups

5.  not a deterrent-  a wall, like the war on drugs, would only increase the reliance on cartels for navigating the border.  They own all of the tunnels and have the means to smuggle. 

6. it sends an ugly message symbolically. - the statue of liberty has long stood as the beacan of our nation.  the wall would replace "send me your poor, huddled masses" with "stay the fuck out"
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November 18, 2018, 01:26:15 AM
#5
The rest of the EU was AGAINST you guys leaving, against Brexit, because it is convenient not to have borders (for a UK native I am surprised you spell it: boarders LOL), we have gotten used to free passage of people, goods and capital. So in fact it is Brexiters who want the border, not the EU. It is clear you want to be out of the EU, so you want the border. It is natural there are outer borders to the EU. Did you not realise this when you opted out?

The EU is acting pretty consistently here. Does not want Trump's wall and did not want a border with the UK. Plus a border is not the same as a wall. See Game of Thrones for reference. Roll Eyes
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November 17, 2018, 08:42:47 PM
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People hate the "walls of Trump" because it is the supreme symbol of the differentiation of cultures and peoples, in contrast to the reigning modernism that claims that the oppressed have more rights than the “oppressors”, so the separation incites them hate these symbols.

The differentiation of peoples is something natural since the beginning of humanity, when these were united was when one surpassed the other and forced him to remain in this. In no way an uncontrolled union, even if it is a search for opportunities, is something natural or healthy for countries, as is evident throughout Europe.
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https://bit.ly/387FXHi lightning theory
November 16, 2018, 04:05:05 PM
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We have a wall, it’s called the sea Grin.

Pretty sure Trumpers and Brexiters are like-minded fools.

There are intelligent ones though on the brexit side, much like the intelligent ones on the trump side.
A few of us are in it for the long haul. We know we’ll probably start off with a horrible deal that won’t make us want to leave because Germany want to keep the whole eu together so why would they give use a strong position to leave. After a while of hurt, they’ll eventually allow us to separate as a learning opportunity to other countries to say “The uk had a horrible time of leaving and now they’ve only just been set free, you don’t want that for your country do you?”


We also owe a lot of money to Germany and a few other EU states, they’re clearly not going to forget that they’d like that back at some point are they?

Also, GBP has only fallen by 1p against the dollar, clearly something is xpectant of a change in the negotiations otherwise it might have devalued a lot more than that.
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November 16, 2018, 03:09:08 PM
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Pretty sure Trumpers and Brexiters are like-minded fools.
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November 16, 2018, 01:00:55 PM
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People say Trumps wall is wrong   we even have the EU saying we don't build walls and Trump is wrong for wanting to do this WHY?..

Now before you answer  i would like you to consider what you are saying..

Now we in the UK want to leave the EU and because we VOTED in a democratic vote to leave the EU want to build a wall a boarder Funny though considering they hate trump building a wall..

And this is the HYPOCRITES  in the EU we deal with..And this is another reason why i want out..

They hate Trumps wall because well the USA is it's own country so have every right to a boarder BUT the EU want it's boarders to protect their lot ..

So why do they want a boarder through Ireland Undecided..I thought they hate walls Kiss  Oh only if it doesn't upset their money pies..

BUT USA   you are bad for wanting a boarder just like they want in IRELAND..
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