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Quote from: Kadal Ijo on May 31, 2023, 11:31:49 PM

I think the thing that makes a person still poor is difficult opportunities, many people are smart but they don't have the opportunity to work in companies or are given capital for businesses. Of course the role of the government is very important to raise the skills or abilities of its citizens who have potential but don't have the opportunity.

I don't think that's a reason, if someone has the ability and desire then he doesn't depend on other people's work anymore, he can even make his own job, open a business or something else.
Main capital is indeed important, but capital is not always in the form of money, it could be desire, hard work and also ability / knowledge.
never blame anyone if we are still poor, even the circumstances are not wrong.
it's all on ourselves, get up and try harder.

Becoming rich out from poverty is just about passiions, is to have this rich mindset. Sometimes it must not be money to start up something first or looking for opportunities to hold on but passion is the main thing to become financially okay , and positive mindset. Passion makes one to start up somewhere no matter how small it is, and it will definitely do well in the future. Government in the society can also be blamed why people still remain poor. If the government is is working Rate of poverty will be very low.

This is indeed often underestimated and I also believe when we have a positive spirit and mindset it will also help us get out of poverty,
indeed it will not happen instantly and of course everything needs a process,
the enthusiasm to keep learning new things and trying is very important.

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Everyone really wants to be rich, of course it's true that no one wants to be poor, but the connotation of being rich can of course be different for each individual. keeping up with developments by buying needs that match current trends is of course fine, but if you go overboard with the aim of being able to show off it is something that is not exemplary even though you can do it and it is legal for those who can do it.
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Quote from: Kadal Ijo on May 31, 2023, 11:31:49 PM

I think the thing that makes a person still poor is difficult opportunities, many people are smart but they don't have the opportunity to work in companies or are given capital for businesses. Of course the role of the government is very important to raise the skills or abilities of its citizens who have potential but don't have the opportunity.

It is one reality that we're not given the same opportunities. There are smart and good people but because of a lack of opportunity, they don't get what they deserve.
While on the other hand, there goes the opposite type of people and they get the opportunity that should be for other people. I can't blame them for landing those opportunities because everybody deserves every single chance.
That's why those that have been struggling and dealing with hardship, they don't give up until they get the best opportunity that they can ever have.

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There are lots of factors on why people do really stay on being poor, but not generally speaking about being that lazy or what but rather there are some who are really that having the opportunity due to some circumstances whether about its financial support or would really be having that lacking of opportunity that been given out.

People don't always stay poor. Across generations of the rich today, there have been history of poverty until someone paid the price by making all the necessary sacrifices and broke out.
Of course being poor puts the odds against you. You dint have the equal opportunity as the rich and worst still, should you exist in a corrupt system, you experience the worst for of poverty as you don't have something extraordinary offer than your mediate qualifications.

That doesn't mean some really good once don't get to break out. Of course they do and in some of the best ways too. Poverty is in the mind. One who thinks properly and is ready to go all the way in getting salvation would always find it somehow.

Not everyone is given equal conditions. Even if everyone had equal opportunities, some wouldn't be rich. This is a very complicated situation. I know people of different wealth under the same circumstances. They differ in their expectations from life. Some people don't want to be rich. Some may be born rich and some may become rich later on, but for us to call a person rich, there must be poor people on the other side.

So here is a different perspective on the concept of wealth.

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Quote from: Quidat on June 01, 2023, 03:21:08 PM

There are lots of factors on why people do really stay on being poor, but not generally speaking about being that lazy or what but rather there are some who are really that having the opportunity due to some circumstances whether about its financial support or would really be having that lacking of opportunity that been given out.

People don't always stay poor. Across generations of the rich today, there have been history of poverty until someone paid the price by making all the necessary sacrifices and broke out.
Of course being poor puts the odds against you. You dint have the equal opportunity as the rich and worst still, should you exist in a corrupt system, you experience the worst for of poverty as you don't have something extraordinary offer than your mediate qualifications.

That doesn't mean some really good once don't get to break out. Of course they do and in some of the best ways too. Poverty is in the mind. One who thinks properly and is ready to go all the way in getting salvation would always find it somehow.

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Quote from: Kadal Ijo on May 31, 2023, 11:31:49 PM

I think the thing that makes a person still poor is difficult opportunities, many people are smart but they don't have the opportunity to work in companies or are given capital for businesses. Of course the role of the government is very important to raise the skills or abilities of its citizens who have potential but don't have the opportunity.

I don't think that's a reason, if someone has the ability and desire then he doesn't depend on other people's work anymore, he can even make his own job, open a business or something else.
Main capital is indeed important, but capital is not always in the form of money, it could be desire, hard work and also ability / knowledge.
never blame anyone if we are still poor, even the circumstances are not wrong.
it's all on ourselves, get up and try harder.

Becoming rich out from poverty is just about passiions, is to have this rich mindset. Sometimes it must not be money to start up something first or looking for opportunities to hold on but passion is the main thing to become financially okay , and positive mindset. Passion makes one to start up somewhere no matter how small it is, and it will definitely do well in the future. Government in the society can also be blamed why people still remain poor. If the government is is working Rate of poverty will be very low.

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Quote from: Kadal Ijo on May 31, 2023, 11:31:49 PM

I think the thing that makes a person still poor is difficult opportunities, many people are smart but they don't have the opportunity to work in companies or are given capital for businesses. Of course the role of the government is very important to raise the skills or abilities of its citizens who have potential but don't have the opportunity.

I prefer to touch on the subject from a purely objective point of view and not from personal experience. This helps to understand the matter as a whole from different angles and is not limited to one narrow angle of view.
Your reference to the role of the state in developing the lives of the people is very important, and it is in fact its duty within the framework of supporting the human resources necessary for the development of the economy. This falls within the intuitive definition of the state without taking into account the situation of each individual alone, since it will be within the policies of economic development.
But in reality, we find poor people in all countries, even economically prosperous countries that do not suffer from corruption of their rulers or are subject to external pressures or go through conflicts. How can this be explained?

There are lots of factors on why people do really stay on being poor, but not generally speaking about being that lazy or what but rather there are some who are really that having the opportunity due to some circumstances whether about its financial support or would really be having that lacking of opportunity that been given out. We know that even if we do have the money but there
were no available jobs around then it would be pointless. This is why most of them would really be that idle because there's no much that they can do due to lack of opportunities.
You cant really blame them though because no matter how hard we do try but still ending up on being poor just because of these common circumstances but most of the time it would be
pertaining for people on being lazy.

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Quote from: Kadal Ijo on May 31, 2023, 11:31:49 PM

I think the thing that makes a person still poor is difficult opportunities, many people are smart but they don't have the opportunity to work in companies or are given capital for businesses. Of course the role of the government is very important to raise the skills or abilities of its citizens who have potential but don't have the opportunity.

If every state official is corrupt, then you will definitely have a hard time getting an easy job without inside support. This kind of culture has developed so much in my country, of course it will only make most shortcut people have a low chance of having a suitable job. Some of my friends had to pay a lot of money to get the job, even if it happened blatantly regardless of who knew it.

How can you expect the government to care about filling your hulls when they can never have enough to fill their own hulls any time. I'm not insulting, but this is a fact that is actually an open secret.

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And another obstacle that makes it difficult for someone from the poor to get out of poverty is the difficulty in building relationships for someone who is poor with people who have a financial life that is far above it (rich people). because sometimes they (poor people) are always underestimated. Because the real fact of building a big and successful business is that it requires a lot of relationships. Because in the business world support and cooperation or business partners are also very important to have. And it's definitely not easy for poor people to build relationships with those who are already rich.

I tell the story according to what I see in the condition of the people in my country. but I don't know about the situation in your country. is it the same or different?

Poor people who do not have the ability will be looked down upon by other people, so it will be difficult to get involved with any kind of cooperation related to the business that is being carried out, I know that poor people are always oppressed and this has become a culture among us, so we cannot deny it. will see something different from the poor because they will understand that his degree is not equal to other people.

I will not isolate the poor, they can get out of the difficult zone if there is progress and their determination towards the motivation they are living, whereas in building a business it is not fast time there will definitely be a long time process but if the poor are able to do that then him until he is successful then that dream has come true from the results of his hard work.

I think the same that the poor will always be workers and this is the average that I see.

Well that's right. And actually building relationships becomes more difficult because we don't have skills that other people don't have. Usually, if someone is a genius, even though he comes from a poor background, people who have high insight and have special expertise in a field that is not owned by other people will still be approached by many people who have an interest in the ability of an individual. So it is very important for people who have difficulty building relationships to focus more on self-development and honing special skills that are rarely possessed by others. Keep working hard and learning more and never give up. because basically there are many inventors who come from underprivileged circles. But finally can become successful after making new discoveries. But this is not what the majority of people can do. because only a few have genius in thinking. but of course everyone actually has one thing that he is good at that no one else is good at. being different can sometimes bring its own charm.

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People with the determination and willingness to work hard can really create opportunities for themselves, whether through starting a business or pursuing other avenues of economic growth. But it must also be acknowledged that while individual characteristics and efforts are necessary, they are not the only factors that determine a person's economic outcome. The reality is that structural barriers and systemic inequality can limit opportunities and make it harder for people to escape poverty. These systemic factors do not remove individual responsibility anyway, but they do emphasize the importance of addressing the broader problems that contribute to poverty.

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Quote from: Kadal Ijo on May 31, 2023, 11:31:49 PM

I think the thing that makes a person still poor is difficult opportunities, many people are smart but they don't have the opportunity to work in companies or are given capital for businesses. Of course the role of the government is very important to raise the skills or abilities of its citizens who have potential but don't have the opportunity.

I prefer to touch on the subject from a purely objective point of view and not from personal experience. This helps to understand the matter as a whole from different angles and is not limited to one narrow angle of view.
Your reference to the role of the state in developing the lives of the people is very important, and it is in fact its duty within the framework of supporting the human resources necessary for the development of the economy. This falls within the intuitive definition of the state without taking into account the situation of each individual alone, since it will be within the policies of economic development.
But in reality, we find poor people in all countries, even economically prosperous countries that do not suffer from corruption of their rulers or are subject to external pressures or go through conflicts. How can this be explained?

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Quote from: Kadal Ijo on May 31, 2023, 11:31:49 PM

I think the thing that makes a person still poor is difficult opportunities, many people are smart but they don't have the opportunity to work in companies or are given capital for businesses. Of course the role of the government is very important to raise the skills or abilities of its citizens who have potential but don't have the opportunity.

Opportunities are always there for those who want to try. and not a few also the government contributes through banking agencies that provide capital support and provide opportunities for someone to own a business, but the wrong thinking when someone gets a money loan is not that someone is starting a business but the loan is used to fulfill their daily life so that not a few people deeply in debt and remain in poverty. because they cannot take advantage of the opportunities that exist/have been provided by the government.

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Quote from: Kadal Ijo on May 31, 2023, 11:31:49 PM

I think the thing that makes a person still poor is difficult opportunities, many people are smart but they don't have the opportunity to work in companies or are given capital for businesses. Of course the role of the government is very important to raise the skills or abilities of its citizens who have potential but don't have the opportunity.

Logically, if he is really smart, he will definitely look for his own way of exit, however the state of the facilities that exist in his environment, of course, will certainly be able to use it well, it is true that the government becomes a means of facilities and infrastructure in improving capabilities, but if it is just waiting for the situation, Want to wait when to wait for the government to do it, and that is a real uncertainty. Do not expect something difficult to change like that of that friend, and I think people who think like that are not smart people, but people who are lazy to develop themselves by maximizing existing facilities.

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Quote from: Kadal Ijo on May 31, 2023, 11:31:49 PM

I think the thing that makes a person still poor is difficult opportunities, many people are smart but they don't have the opportunity to work in companies or are given capital for businesses. Of course the role of the government is very important to raise the skills or abilities of its citizens who have potential but don't have the opportunity.

Actually, if you are positive and think there are a lot of opportunities right there that could serve you a chance to get out of this kind of situation people think they are poor and they doing this action as poor better to change the mindset first to make growth and improvement at their selves. Seeking for the changes and adopting, making a mindset, and changing the lifestyle is useless if you are asking why you are poor and then keep doing nothing at all times, better to invest to your knowledge, self, experience, and connections. This could serve an asset to change your life.

It would be possible that's true but if were being realistic, nowadays being positive is not enough for people to get out of that situation. As they take time for them to grow and find the right time to improve, the world is also changing. Inflation also increases so it also affects people's budget for their needs since their salary still remain the same at the minimum wage. I'm gonna be real due to their have to provide their needs to their everyday life they don't have the time to invest for what you've mentioned. They have to work despite the salary is low just to survive. That's why some people's life only changes when someone give them a hand. But of course this doesn't apply to anyone.

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Quote from: Kadal Ijo on May 31, 2023, 11:31:49 PM

I think the thing that makes a person still poor is difficult opportunities, many people are smart but they don't have the opportunity to work in companies or are given capital for businesses. Of course the role of the government is very important to raise the skills or abilities of its citizens who have potential but don't have the opportunity.

Actually, if you are positive and think there are a lot of opportunities right there that could serve you a chance to get out of this kind of situation people think they are poor and they doing this action as poor better to change the mindset first to make growth and improvement at their selves. Seeking for the changes and adopting, making a mindset, and changing the lifestyle is useless if you are asking why you are poor and then keep doing nothing at all times, better to invest to your knowledge, self, experience, and connections. This could serve an asset to change your life.

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But indeed getting out of the zone like that clearly can't all end well.
Even though what you said I really agree with, many people avoid it because they are also more or less aware that doing it requires a very big struggle, especially from the point of view of their condition which definitely has to come out well prepared.
There are still many conditions for poor people who find it difficult to get out of their zone because apart from their lack of relationships, they do not have a strong shield to carry out in war outside their comfort zone because they are also aware that something like that has to be prepared and it can not be done with only capital alone.

This is in fact reality on which there are things which you do really like for it to happen or does have those kind of plans on making yourself getting out of poverty but due to the fact that you dont have the money to make your move and this what makes things more harder.If you dont really have those funds or financial back ups then it is really hard to make a move because you wouldnt really be able to do thing

knowing that things or everything now would really be requiring some money for you to spend because if there's none then you cant really move out freely. This is why it would really be a challenge if we do
speak about taking steps or going out on your comfort zone knowing that each step wouldnt really be requiring having no money, every actions to be made will always be accompanied with expenses and this is indeed fact.

So from that now we are in a condition where someone doesn't want them to get out of the poverty zone because almost everyone wants that, but the problem is that things like that are not an easy thing to do because the current system is like the rich will get richer and richer. the poor get poorer even though it's just a proverb but it leads to facts.
Many motivators say that we can get out of the poverty zone if we really want to, but in fact it's just nonsense that is systematically structured so that we believe something like that can happen but are not too aware that even though something like that is possible, there is a chance to get out of something like this. it's only a fraction of a percent in successful even it can be said that the comparison that tries for this is only one in comparison with the many who try.

It's not wrong if we really try our best for our life so that it can go well and correct the mistakes of poverty and change fate. but on the other hand we also have to understand more about our own condition because as I said before, to climb the social strata is not as easy as turning the palm of the hand and we cannot do it just by being desperate because basically it is tantamount to torturing ourselves .

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Quote from: Uruhara on May 30, 2023, 05:20:01 PM

And another obstacle that makes it difficult for someone from the poor to get out of poverty is the difficulty in building relationships for someone who is poor with people who have a financial life that is far above it (rich people). because sometimes they (poor people) are always underestimated. Because the real fact of building a big and successful business is that it requires a lot of relationships. Because in the business world support and cooperation or business partners are also very important to have. And it's definitely not easy for poor people to build relationships with those who are already rich.

I tell the story according to what I see in the condition of the people in my country. but I don't know about the situation in your country. is it the same or different?

Poor people who do not have the ability will be looked down upon by other people, so it will be difficult to get involved with any kind of cooperation related to the business that is being carried out, I know that poor people are always oppressed and this has become a culture among us, so we cannot deny it. will see something different from the poor because they will understand that his degree is not equal to other people.

I will not isolate the poor, they can get out of the difficult zone if there is progress and their determination towards the motivation they are living, whereas in building a business it is not fast time there will definitely be a long time process but if the poor are able to do that then him until he is successful then that dream has come true from the results of his hard work.

I think the same that the poor will always be workers and this is the average that I see.

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Quote from: Kadal Ijo on May 31, 2023, 11:31:49 PM

I think the thing that makes a person still poor is difficult opportunities, many people are smart but they don't have the opportunity to work in companies or are given capital for businesses. Of course the role of the government is very important to raise the skills or abilities of its citizens who have potential but don't have the opportunity.

I don't think that's a reason, if someone has the ability and desire then he doesn't depend on other people's work anymore, he can even make his own job, open a business or something else.
Main capital is indeed important, but capital is not always in the form of money, it could be desire, hard work and also ability / knowledge.
never blame anyone if we are still poor, even the circumstances are not wrong.
it's all on ourselves, get up and try harder.

Indeed, I have witnessed quite a lot of people who have high academic value and have high insight but do not make it into work in decent companies. usually this happens due to not having connections or relationships with insiders. but then the person with high insight did in the end choose to open his own business and he finally got a decent life. so maybe you are right that in essence it all depends on the mindset that we build within us. If we have advanced thinking and don't give up easily. and keep trying to innovate then that person will be closer to success.

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Sometimes not planning for your money can be or should I say is a factor to why people stay poor. Another is the poor lack the right mindset to manage money or even making the little they have to expand in terms of investing on it. Overspending leaves people poor even when their income put them above the poverty line, they can't really help but act according to how low their mentality is while using money for themselves. Ones they (poor people) are surrounded by people who have nothing productive to offer they can't see that they're not moving in the right path, bad energy kills bright ideas.

No doubt the fact that poor planning and financial mismanagement result in financial instability in one's life and society as a whole. Even in government, it is so that is why you see the government passing a bill and making a budget so as to meet up with their financial demand in other to deliver the dividend of democracy. As an individual, one needs to plan beforehand so as to avoid unnecessary expenses and waste as this has been the issue faced by many. Instead of wasting, channeling the funds to a meaningful investment would be welcoming upon acquiring knowledge with respect to the particular business one wants to go into. This will help to cusion the level of poverty in the society.

Basically ideally like that but now there are still many people who do not attach importance to planning in their finances,
it's time we all realize the importance of it,
using money wisely in terms of spending it will be very helpful.

Of a truth many people do not attach importance to planning and when they get a poor result, they start blaming people and badluck around them while forgetting that they had enough space and time to plan and prepared for the time ahead of them. I remember they sayings that says " Proper preparation prevent poor performance". This is applicable to all field and works of life and "when you fail to plan, you plan to fail" this is the reality of the society now. Most people do not want to really look into that what they think is that tomorrow would take care of itself forgetting that they are the ones to make it take care by keeping and doing things the right way.

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Quote from: Kadal Ijo on May 31, 2023, 11:31:49 PM

I think the thing that makes a person still poor is difficult opportunities, many people are smart but they don't have the opportunity to work in companies or are given capital for businesses. Of course the role of the government is very important to raise the skills or abilities of its citizens who have potential but don't have the opportunity.

I don't think that's a reason, if someone has the ability and desire then he doesn't depend on other people's work anymore, he can even make his own job, open a business or something else.
Main capital is indeed important, but capital is not always in the form of money, it could be desire, hard work and also ability / knowledge.
never blame anyone if we are still poor, even the circumstances are not wrong.
it's all on ourselves, get up and try harder.

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