Topic: Why do some campaign members posting essay? - page 2. (Read 941 times)

Some campaign require you make such long post because they require you have not less than a certain number of words on your post for it to be considered quality enough to be counted for payment and so the campaign participants try to put up such long post so they meet the requirements and also get paid, some other posters believe the longer the post the better the quality because even campaign managers more like count and keep long post than they will do with short post except those short post are straight to the point and have got good quality.

But this doesn't mean length of post means good quality as some lenghty post might just be bluffing and unnecessary usage of words which could be avoided but then the quest for "quality post" makes people still post regardless.

Afaik, all signature campaigns character quota requirement (if not all, then vast majority) so Stake is not an expection here. The reason he singled out Stake is probably because of their tendency to attract spammers and shitposters due their low payment and high weekly quota. And I guess its easier to hide the shitpost if you write a wall of text, or at least that's what they think.

Posting essay or not is not what is against the forum rules, the question is that are they spamming, trolling, or doing plagiarism, if not then what they are doing is not worth a punishable offense, the last aspect I may like to talk about is that if the content of what they are posting is off topic, then all you could do is to just report them to the moderator, the last thing to completely avoid them is putting them on ignore.

Some signature campaigns (like Stake's for example) have requirements on the number of characters that have to be in a post.  So while they may have a very simple answer that could be given in a few words, they are incentivized with money to make their posts a little longer in order to reach the character requirements that have been set.  I'm not familiar with how widespread this is with other campaigns, but perhaps that explains why you singled out Stake. 

A few years back, this was a pretty respected practice because good posters weren't so easy to find on the forum. There were some who exclusively wrote essays, and good ones at that.

Now, looks like inflation and the tech downturn has given people a lot of time as well as motivation. On top of that, it has become far too easy to write a lot without saying much.

What i notice though is that there are fewer novel topics of discussion coming up. Its mostly the same things being talked about that we used to argue since the days of Segwit. Jamie Dimon anyone?? LOL.. I maybe wrong on this as I am just finding my way back to the forum after some time. Maybe I haven't been to the exciting nooks yet.

While I still maintain it's not a "Stakes" specific problem with "epistles" as replies from users in that campaign as many are alluding, I admit that I've also run into users who aren't on that campaign writing epistles as posts. Some aren't even in any campaigns, yet they write in such a manner. I guess it's a writing technique for people who write that way. For me it's boring reading through such lengthy posts, especially the one whose link is quoted here. Brevity should be top most on the minds of users. We shouldn't bore the community with verbosity.

TBH, I don't read those wall of texts, especially when it is not coming from someone I know too well is a very knowledgeable in Bitcoin. I have tried it several times and regretted at last. Some of those lengthy posts are full of repetitions and non connected narrations which could easily be called off topic.

In most cases what the users wish to say ended in the first few lines but the poster will deliberately stretch the write up to look like a gigantic article. There are people that writes such as habit, such as Jay juan, franky1, LUCKYFLY1 and others, and I read their posts. But recently, it's becoming a norm in the forum.

I guess an essay or long post is not that important, the important thing is you understand and get the point of the post right? It doesnt really matter if the post is long, on the other hand, that could be a positive thing I guess since you could include more details on the post and probably explain it better with just a short post, but it is just going to depend on how you're going to see the long post but for sure it wasn't going to be a negative thing as long as it still has a good thought.

Having a detailed reply for sure might be a good thing for the forum unless they are just typing some nonsense on their post just to make it longer that is where things could easily be a bad thing and probably you could report it for spamming, if it is just nonsense posting. I mean long post does really mean that it is going to be a quality post, and its better to have a short quality post than having a long but low-quality posting.

What posts does constitute an Essay to you?
From the comments that precedes the thread, I find long posts to fall for that category but, I don’t find anything wrong or not okay with having to make a clear narrative on a subject.

It doesn’t have to be about you being a campaign participants to come up with this sort of post and to be frank, you would hardly find campaign participants coming up with long narrative posts especially, when they are about meeting up with post quota.

Short or few lined posts often count for spamming or low effort created content and with that, users tend to do the most to have a clear narrative on a subject to avoid confusion and hope it constitutes to post quality.

That's absolutely true... Some campaign requirements are too demanding... I seen a couple of crap lately - from stakes most especially... So I decided to look up their requirements and I was convinced. Sometimes, they go off point, all in a bid to make the post voluminous - I don't know why OP doesn't read to check for stuffs like quality and substance...I also realized that most of their participants are having bulky post as compared to merit ratio... I think it's basically for that reason.

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To express their ideas, and suggestions and base them on their experience.
If you think sharing information that benefits people who read this and takes a lot of text or words to fulfil their questions they dont hesitate to give a lot of their knowledge to help other members of the community. Its your free will to give information that's the forums for. But make sure the contents are related to the discussion some posts have tons of words and tl;dr but doesn't related to the topic just their benefit is to post to be counted on their signature campaigns. Make it clear and understandable i guess its enough to prevent having a long post.

This long essay writing could have come in as a result of forum requesting for quality posts and other supporting services such as SMAS BLACKLIST that existed a few years ago and to avoid being listed there... users went for essays to stay off their radar  

But all in all, this misconception of long essays is equal to a quality post is still debatable as a simple word or two to a question can stand as quality afaik....but I guess some users want to stand out and grind for merit (most obvious reason)

Other reason for essays is because its easy for a manager to pick you if you are into Signature Campaigns and just makes it easy to sieve out from the one two liners... provided grammar, sentence construction is above average and their is actual sharing of knowledge/information in those essays.

Write whatever you want in your style and stop crucifying people for writing so much. I don't even know the sensible reason for this topic only for the fun of it as some might write a few lines as possible and still make no sense, while some might write much and all making sense, and vice versa. So it is unfair to say that those who are writing much are all writing rubbish. You can only treat cases individually. In case you don't know, the topics and replies that are much could carry a lot of semantic load and I know that this is not only good for the writers' improvement but also for the campaign the writer campaigns for.

Some of you do not care about the campaigns that pay you but for the money, while others care about the two and deliver as they should, even more. What I wouldn't be happy about is writing long lines with no meaning, that is so bad and such errors must be corrected. But if the wording is good and coherent, then let it be. As for "junder", I haven't read his posts but it is not a must that you earn merit on the forum before you are considered good and only an unwise/partial person wouldn't know that the merit system is not perfect. The guy, as I check now, writes mostly on the gambling section that fetches almost no merits, so what do you expect?

Mind you, it is not all quality posts that will attract merits, most are unappreciated. So leave people to how they naturally can write but correct them or point their attention to where you feel they are doing things wrongly and stop being perfect.

Writing style is a personal freedom. Members cannot be judged for long articles. Some of them intend to fill the articles with unnecessary words to make them seem long, but others may not be able to express their idea well without providing long explanations.

I know what you mean. Sometimes members are really passionate about the subjects and can be a little excited to let you know how they feel.
Also some of them have post minimums they make sure to abide by in signature campaigns. So you'll see a lot of filibuster content.

Funny, but I think the reason why most campaigners or users here post bulky stuffs is because if the perception that this here community has which is " bulky actually might increase quality" although I say this from IMO. but that being said most of them is just there posting style and I know of a particular poster although he doesn't promote any campaign but he is known here as the father of bulky post and not just bulky, his post are always incised and filled with lots of information @jayJuanGee.

Long posts are indeed very tiring at times. Sometimes, at the beginning of a post, you understand how it will end. I think there are no fans of long reading on the forum unless the author has won the users' trust as a person who always lays out the value of words.
There is a saying: “Brevity is the sister of talent,” so the one who knows how to express his thoughts without the presence of “water” in the texts is truly a genius.

As someone who is more comfortable sharing my whole train of thought rather than summarizing shit into a single sentence, I feel like this is insulting, as if to say that long posts doesn't make the content any better. The thing is that besides the campaign requirements, every single one of us here push for better and more productive content rather than trashy posts made by people who just wanted to farm interactions and impressions in this forum, and so with that comes the premise that people would need to create longer posts with full-on explanations (just like this one) rather than summarize their whole shit just so your low-attention-span having ass could read it.

Matter of fact I think I speak for everyone here when I say we'd rather have longer posts with more content than have people post something like "I approve of it." or "I am scared of the current state of bitcoin blah de blah" which frankly does not contribute to the discussion and is deliberately added to just farm as much posts as possible.

People express themselves differently, some like me like to do so in a few words, some others do so in so many words that they do not know when it turns into an epistle, and there are actually readers who take their time to read carefully through these epistles because they believe that that is what they should be seeing in a forum like this.

It doesn't matter if your writing in very many words or a few words, because the most important thing should be that someone can learn from what you have written in some way.

In my personal opinion and experience, for a post or participation here in the forum to be informative and worth of merits that post needs to be a certain minimum volume of information and pictures attached to it in the best of the cases. Nonetheless, there have been also posts which are rather short and received merits, but those are valuable for a different reason, rathed for their informative value, they are funny, amusing or point out something is which obvious; the matter is more likely to receive merits if it is posted by a recognized member of the forum, instead of a newbie.

The size of the post does not have much to do with the value of it for this community, a long post can either be good or plain garbage, depending on whether it is alligned with the context of the discussion or not. Perhaps, we are getting used to shorter interactions in other places of the internet like Twitter or shorter paragraphs in Discord/Telegram, so when we switch back to this place and encounter long texts, we don't feel like reading them. I can certainly feel identified with that phenomenon.