Topic: Why do some campaign members posting essay? - page 3. (Read 907 times)

when you say "essay", it depends on what you mean. If it's just because of the length of the writeup, I doubt that's a problem to be worried about.

If I have an opinion to share and would need to make it detailed so the person reading it can understand what I'm saying, then I can't reduce the length of my writeup and make less meaning out of what I'm saying just because I don't want to be seen to be making a lengthy post.

The only problem what writing a lengthy writeup is with regard to those people that spam the forum with unnecessary post that is difficult to understand but is at the same time lengthy and they will post multiple of it at different boards in the forum

Some members have this feeling that if they post something very long like inform of a text book that they can be merited, like it seems informative to them but they forget that it mustn't be like that, cut it short and give out the important part of the post. A short and simple post can pass the message without stressing the readers and many users on this Forum don't like reading much (long post), like having a long note as post (some can be informative no matter how long), they (the readers) see it as a waste of time.
And is not only campaign members, those who always do such even if they know the post won't generate traffic they still go ahead to do just to impress are also those that are not yet in a campaign.

Based on my observation some of the most merited replies I mean replies not the Original poster of the thread are short concise informative and on point, I prefer to pattern my style to that kind of reply instead of posting a long essay, after all this is still a community discussion it's like we have a group of people in conversation done online, and we have readers to consider too.
I just wonder will those people who write long posts will still do it if they are not in a signature campaign.

It's definitely unhealthy to the forum because instead of finding short but quality posts, some participants chose to create lengthy post in hunt for merits. Because if this merit system does not exist, I don't think these people will put too much effort on posting to the point that they end up creating more of like essays. But sad to say, instead of gaining attraction and merits from the readers, some just didn't dare to read the post since the reading time may be time consuming. Even myself, I usually don't go after with these long posts since it keeps me looking what and where the main point is. I would rather want to read a short but well explained thoughts and ideas as its certainly not tiring to read.

What do you mean by essays, is it mean big articles or long replies? Well, it is not the campaign participants who are writing essays it is just those who are most active and participating and contributing as in terms of useful content so called essays. And there activity and contribution made them rank fast, and also help them build some trust and they became the active member of this forum.

So once they become the active members so most of these active members are now part of some campaign which are paying them money for making posts, so this time there optimism about the creativity of posts increased more and they are trying to be more creative. Which is a good thing and there is nothing bad in it. But I doubt this creativity will remain the same means at the same level as it is now due to the ban on some campaigns. Well, let's see the impact but I don't think it would be that big.

I never thought that someone would consider my posts as Essays but if you think like that than I can't change your mind. I try to explain my point of view in detail so people can understand them easily but sometimes I don't make long posts. I know that many people may consider somewhat longs posts as Essays but it's important to read the posts carefully before coming to a conclusion. I will always be making some posts longer if detail is needed in those posts and would make other posts shorter if they can deliver the message in short format.

I have seen posts of some members which were very long in length and it was hard to read those posts seriously. However, I won't name anyone in this thread as many others might know those members already. I find nothing wrong in those posts and sometimes I feel that the members who make such long posts might have enough knowledge to share with us and I also believe that it would take those members a lot of time to make such long posts.

Well, a post can be long and still contain no relevant ideas but just some beating around the bush. Some comments can be short but still contain a very informative idea; that's also how some comments can be long and also contain a very well-detailed explanation about the topic of discussion.

A comment can be equally short but irrelevant to the topic of discussion, so it all depends on the member and how he or she wishes to make their post.

Apart from the fact that the campaigns in which I have ever participated required me to make comments that were not less than 100, 150, and 200 words, respectively, I normally like my comments to be very informative, right from when I was a newbie. From my post history, you can tell that right from when I joined the forum, I didn't write less than 200 words in most of my posts. That doesn't mean that if I come across some topics that require me to make only a few words of comment, I will.

Although some members think that it's when they write long essay, that's when their post can be counted as a quality post, or that will aggravate the merit source to splash some merit.

Conclusively, a comment can be an essay but useless; a comment can be short and still useless. Vis-à-vis, a comment can be short and very informative, just as a long comment will also be very informative. It all depends on the commenter and their ability to use either a short statement with one or two paragraphs to pass on their reasonable opinion, while some people actually like to give a very detailed explanation with long paragraphs, making sure they link together every possible scenario and example that would help the reader understand what they are saying.

Yes , I also noticed many users especially in the gambling section and altcoins section. You already gesture the reason which is compaign rules to make a long most have a more than 300 or 400 characters. Members are trying to increase extra 3-4 sentence after main point.


Yes, if the details provided after main point further disclose the main idea and help readers to easily understand.

No , If just repeating of nonsense idea again and again without any further information.

it's healthy for the forum since the Google bots will like unique content and the Google bots index the pages faster for the search engine. 

since you are referring to the Stake campaign, you should know that the manager of the campaign removes the users who don't write longer posts. that's why they make it very long. this applies to other campaigns because they indicate posting around 250 characters. they like it that way like people will notice the siggy.

Most likely, their mindset might be if they create lengthy post, that will automatically earn merit because of the various insights included in their post. But in reality, it will only confuse the reader and might discourage some readers from reading it due to the fact that its so tiring to read. That's why I don't see positive effect on members having that posting habit. It's still better to create a short but precise post, rather than to create confusion and tiring effect on part of the readers.

However, this is also case to case basis. If the topic requires a detailed post and would mean elaborating all the significant details, then posting like an essay may be an advantage. But still, only few of the members would likely to respond to that certain thread.

Do they get paid more for writing essays? I think it has more to do with merits than post quota for signature campaigns. Some believe long posts have higher chances of getting merits than concise and short posts. This belief did not come from thin air, there are members who reward long posts just because they feel the OP has put a lot of effort into writing a wall of text. Members who have been rewarded their ability to make long posts will find it difficult to change even as they grow in the forum.

Yes, there are many in the gambling section, most of them Stake, as the OP said. Another example would be junder, which I've been talking about recently. You can see that making the written rubbish too long can earn them a bonus and that's why you see so many in that campaign writing long posts that at first glance look coherent but without basically saying anything meaningful.

"Unhealthy" is when one forum members calls out other forum members about things that they dont like.

If you think the post is irrelevant, report it. Let moderators take action and move on from that. If you are still getting bugged by that user, put them on your Ignore list, report the manager about it and leave.

I do not appreciate people calling each other out like this, this is a place where people should be able to hang out like a coffee-shop adda, forget about campaigns and all. If you guys still have to mudsling, we got all sorts of social media for that, toxicity is nothing new, adding to it in unhealthy, trying to remove it makes it wholesome.

Theymos has an insight into this, so he emphasizes how members of this community should treat this platform, this is a discussion platform, not Medium like a platform where content took 5 to 10 minutes to finish reading, it's ok to do 6 liners but posts that looks like an essay like what OP trying to imply is not good, posters should try to digest their post if they are replying to a discussion, and just make it worth reading.

This is definitely based on the topic, but I can sense what you are trying to say OP because you were specific about some campaign participants.

IMO, it's okay to post long post on an informational thread, like a thread that are just suppose to go 2 to 3 pages and you'll already get the answer you are looking. However, on threads that have active discussions like for instance the NBA thread, it's a pain in the eyes when someone making long post like he was summarazing all the events on a certain day. Just my personal opinion, I don't find it appealing.

For those who are forcing themselves to make a long post just to look good, I suggest do it with sincerity as it can be seen in your post if you are sincere or not, making a long post doesn't make you a quality poster automatically.

Irrelevant essay on any topic doesn't make any sense. This is an ongoing discussion that has made into the first page on this board many times. I am not able to share those links as this topic itself is irrelevant for me.

There are a few like you who come up with one liner or two. There are others like JayJuanGee who have the ability or talent you can say to write long paragraphs.

Unless you try to explain in detail, considering a new topic or a reply which covers everything, you would be not considered a good poster here. There are a few who can reply in one word in the forum, they gained reputation because they were accurate and to the point with their replies. Not everyone can achieve such kind of reputation unless being technically sound.

Essays look good on profile, they give illusion of being a quality poster, tho when you read the post, you realize how much of quality it is.

Most of the essay type posts found here can be trimmed down to couple sentences if they were to be rephrased. Very few has this ability to keep you glued to read whole post with such type of posts.

An Essay is not a bad thing? Isn't it when somebody says a whole load of rubbish that it becomes a problem?
There are things you need to explain with long essays and epistles while some just need a couple of lines, so there's no point complaining about essays. Instead, complain about long posts with no quality. Complain when a person uses an essay to explain what he could have done in a couple of lines.

If you can't read long posts or you find them very uninteresting, you can always avoid them, but make sure not to comment on what you didn't read. You can also advise the OP to use the right paragraphing to make his post more readable or add pictures and graphs where necessary to reduce the writing.

I don't know about others, but most of the time, if I find myself in a situation where I'm writing a long post, it's always when I find a topic of interest and I have more to say, which I can't just combine into 1 to 2 paragraphs. In such a situation, I try as much as I can to say out whatever I have in mind regarding that particular topic or matter.
 
A long line post does not make it unique, but the fact that it is passing is what makes it stand out among others. But many people have always gone their own way, writing their own bible and dictionary, and this has been their own way of making their posts. I don't know why most people do that; it could be that they always have what to say or they don't just know how to hit the nail right in the head without having to explain the process of doing that.

Also there is one campaign that give rewards to some of their posters. And if you look at those who usually get the rewards, love to write long essays, Lol. I think you know what campaign I'm talking about. Anyhow, I have nothing against them, that's there style and it suit them best. But in any case, it doesn't depend on the length of your post if your target is to get merit. There's even one liner wherein I saw getting merit. And if you get your message across the board then good. And on the other hand, most of the time I just skipped those long replies, I mean how can you reply if it has everything on it,  .