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Quote from: The Sceptical Chymist on December 29, 2023, 03:00:52 AM

OP, it'd help if you posted an example or two of what you consider to be an essay, because that word might not mean the same thing to both of us.

Exactly. Most of the time when most members attempt making contributions they tend to give every single idea they have at that moment concerning that topic. Come to think of it , what would a quality post be on this forum if it lacked proper and detailed information?

Definitely it has always been encouraged to make quality contributions here than spamming with just a few lines in some cases. I don't think most people who actually settle down to read such replies see them as an essay. I mean what harm could it be reading 10 lines of a quality reply properly arranged in paragraphs be?

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OP, it'd help if you posted an example or two of what you consider to be an essay, because that word might not mean the same thing to both of us.

But assuming what you mean are very long posts then yes, I've noticed that for years--especially since the start of the merit system. What I find annoying is when members who obviously can't write English for shit make posts that are extremely bloated, i.e., using a ton of words but which say next to nothing in terms of content. I guess they think the more they write the better their post will be judged by merit sources, their campaign manager, or whoever.

Quote from: mk4 on December 28, 2023, 11:35:04 PM

Simply because a lot of users think that posting long topics makes it highly more likely for them to receive merits; even though if you read most of those, the thread seems to be pretty forced(character and word count wise). Not to mention that some are ChatGPT-generated.

If anything, it makes me far less likely to give merits. Just freakin get to the point without all the unnecessary fluff.

Yep. And that AI-generated stuff kind of scares me, because I think it's probably made it way easier for a non-English speaker to write something that looks to be high quality in perfect English, and I'll be damned if I'd be able to tell the difference if I'm not familiar with the member's style of writing (which I'm usually not unless they're an older member, in which case they wouldn't be using AI to write posts anyway).

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Quote from: mk4 on December 28, 2023, 11:35:04 PM

Simply because a lot of users think that posting long topics makes it highly more likely for them to receive merits

It is true and such posters intentionally do it to hide their non sense posts. Just write as lengthy as possible and assume their posts contain something interesting. In fact, no quality on such posts.

Quote from: theymos on September 23, 2018, 03:58:25 PM

When trying to write quality posts, a lot of people act as though they're writing a book report for school: putting facts that we already know into their own words. Nobody wants to read that, and you will not get merit for it. Moreover, the length of your post and the quality of your English are only minor factors. In trying to write a quality post worthy of merit, you should offer new ideas, personal experiences, or perspectives that other forum users will actually find new and interesting.

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Quote from: jhonjhon on December 28, 2023, 10:22:15 PM

Sorry about the title. While reading some posts, I noticed that some campaign participants seem to be posting essays. Have you noticed the same, or is it just me? If you also notice this, do you think it's healthy for the forum?

Hahaha, essay indeed! Cool

Let me ask you a question, have you read an article with detailed information and not a summary that only contains 1 or 2 lines? This is not a mere social media platform where you just write yes or no, if you say yes, why the yes?

People need to learn from you. Fine, it's not all answers or narration that require one to write so much, but most of them require it. This is how you know those who mean well for the forum as they take their time to explain facts. It costs them nothing to write 2 lines like some do. Nevertheless, reading their post at times, you will get the entire gist of the discussion, not like writing short lines.

Besides, this is good for campaigns. Choose your writers wisely!

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I definitely understand the op perfectly, and to be honest, i do come across such long comment mostly in the gambling and gambling discussion board, and you guys know what?, I don't bother reading such posts or comments.

And for those who do make such long posts, I know the reason why, most especially for those in the Stake signature ad campaign as myself, long posts like that earns the posters the weekly bonus, and to be honest, the few times I tried reading such posts, I discovered that those who post such long comments actually do not have anything unique to say from what others users have said, they just keep repeating what either they have previous said or what other users have also said, doing it in such a manner it becomes very long so that the managers can consider it a quality post, and unfortunately, i do not think the managers actually read such posts before giving it credit.

For me, I will always prefer posts that are well summarized, kept simple but written with high intellectual, that is, straight to the point and hits the nail on the head, much better than a block full of rhetorical words after words comment simply repeating same thing over and over again.

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Do you have an example of the essays you speak of? It will help to know if they were just stretched out beyond the required characters to pass the message or were actual helpful posts.

Most campaigns have a character requirement, but they are mostly within the range of 100-150, not essay worthy numbers at all.

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Quote from: BossJumong on December 28, 2023, 11:26:18 PM

Don't worry, even if you didn't mention Stakes' signature campaign participants, we all know that you're referring to this users.

This user's post also seems like an essay: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/samreomo-885934

That's Sam Reomo its still ok

But how about this one, it's a challenge reading this post.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.63389484

I already mentioned that I have no problem with this kind of post if a user is motivated to write a long post but the majority of readers prefer a summary, this is still a discussion community where people will read posts that are short with substance and can participate in a discussion, now how can I quote on that post without losing the substance of the discussion.

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Quote from: jhonjhon on December 28, 2023, 10:22:15 PM

Sorry about the title. While reading some posts, I noticed that some campaign participants seem to be posting essays. Have you noticed the same, or is it just me? If you also notice this, do you think it's healthy for the forum?

Actually, it depends on the purpose of the post, if a person has the purpose of explaining something in detail at once, then he has to make the size of the post a little bigger. Moreover, many people usually keep the length of the post a little longer to avoid spam, but that doesn't mean that a simple short two-line post is not qualityfull. Sometimes even a two-line post can contain a lot of important informative information that can't be found in an eight-ten line post.

Quote from: BossJumong on December 28, 2023, 11:26:18 PM

It doesn't mean a long post equals a high-quality post; most of this post is just to meet signature campaign quotas.

That's a real truth, But I don't think it's right to put everyone in the same queue. Yes, there is a minimum character requirement for signature campaigns, but you don't need to make a big post to fulfill it. The requirement is fulfilled in two or three line posts. However, there is a report option for those of you who think there is a problem with the post, and there is no guarantee that the big post will not be spam, you can always quote the posts in this topics.

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Quote from: BossJumong on December 28, 2023, 11:26:18 PM

Don't worry, even if you didn't mention Stakes' signature campaign participants, we all know that you're referring to this users.

This user's post also seems like an essay: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/samreomo-885934

I don't want to mention names because there are many. Most of them are probably coming from stake campaign. It seems like some of them are trying to make a post longer when it can be done with short post.

Quote from: BossJumong on December 28, 2023, 11:26:18 PM

Quote from: Apocollapse on December 28, 2023, 10:41:54 PM

Because long post make your post looks high quality,

It doesn't mean a long post equals a high-quality post; most of this post is just to meet signature campaign quotas.

I think merit sources knows what post to be merited. They are aware if a user is just trying to fill the campaign requirement and trying to force a long post to impress their campaign manager. I hope campaign managers would also look on members that makes long post which arent' really necessary.

Quote from: mk4 on December 28, 2023, 11:35:04 PM

Simply because a lot of users think that posting long topics makes it highly more likely for them to receive merits; even though if you read most of those, the thread seems to be pretty forced(character and word count wise). Not to mention that some are ChatGPT-generated.

If anything, it makes me far less likely to give merits. Just freakin get to the point without all the unnecessary fluff.

You are one of the most merited member in the forum and I like your post because it doesn't need to be too long, you'll only make it long when necessary and yet you can convey your thoughts effectively. I wish there are more people like you.

I have no grudge against members that do long post, but I am just disappointed on some who value their post based on quantity, not quality.

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Simply because a lot of users think that posting long topics makes it highly more likely for them to receive merits; even though if you read most of those, the thread seems to be pretty forced(character and word count wise). Not to mention that some are ChatGPT-generated.

If anything, it makes me far less likely to give merits. Just freakin get to the point without all the unnecessary fluff.

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Don't worry, even if you didn't mention Stakes' signature campaign participants, we all know that you're referring to this users.

This user's post also seems like an essay: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/samreomo-885934

Quote from: Apocollapse on December 28, 2023, 10:41:54 PM

Because long post make your post looks high quality,

It doesn't mean a long post equals a high-quality post; most of this post is just to meet signature campaign quotas.

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Because long post make your post looks high quality, this will give some advantages like:

1. The moderator will high unlikely to delete your post.
2. The campaign manager will count the post without going to check the point/message of the post.
3. Merit sharing with alts will be hard to busted because people think long post deserved to be merited and merit is subjective.

I'm not sure if it's healthy or unhealthy for the forum since no one has a right to change someone else posting habit and as I said above, the moderator won't delete such post. So it's what it's.

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Sorry about the title. While reading some posts, I noticed that some campaign participants seem to be posting essays. Have you noticed the same, or is it just me? If you also notice this, do you think it's healthy for the forum?

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