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Topic: Why does bitcoin hate fiat money so much? - page 4. (Read 4860 times)

legendary
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September 07, 2013, 03:07:15 PM
#17
I've actually decided I won't do business in paper anymore unless it's absolutely necessary.
How you buy food?
Bitcoin?

i've been looking up #bitcoin on instagram a lot lately. have been seeing more and more pictures of business popping up that accept bitcoin. i encourage instagram users to photograph and post the businesses / shops name and location that accept BTC using hashtags. if you have a shop, put a BTC accepted here logo in your window. this form of advertisement helps your business and the btc economy and makes it easier for folks who want to use bitcoin exclusively.



nice idea ! put up a thread  Smiley
legendary
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September 05, 2013, 08:42:06 AM
#16
Why does bitcoin hate fiat money so much?

Coz Bitcoin won't survive if its price is not 1000000+ USD for a coin. This possible only if all fiat currencies die.
member
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September 01, 2013, 05:08:44 PM
#15
Learn some real history and not the bullshit in schools or universities, then you'll understand precisely why many people in the Bitcoin users hate paper money Smiley I've actually decided I won't do business in paper anymore unless it's absolutely necessary. Nevermind all the economics stuff behind it, those twats will do anything to get your personal information and credit/debit card information so this is the best way I can think of to tell them to fuck off.

do you live on the streets with canned foods or something?
legendary
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September 01, 2013, 03:14:48 PM
#14
I've actually decided I won't do business in paper anymore unless it's absolutely necessary.
How you buy food?
Bitcoin?

i've been looking up #bitcoin on instagram a lot lately. have been seeing more and more pictures of business popping up that accept bitcoin. i encourage instagram users to photograph and post the businesses / shops name and location that accept BTC using hashtags. if you have a shop, put a BTC accepted here logo in your window. this form of advertisement helps your business and the btc economy and makes it easier for folks who want to use bitcoin exclusively.
newbie
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September 01, 2013, 04:32:51 AM
#13
I've actually decided I won't do business in paper anymore unless it's absolutely necessary.
How you buy food?
Bitcoin?
legendary
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September 01, 2013, 04:30:51 AM
#12
Learn some real history and not the bullshit in schools or universities, then you'll understand precisely why many people in the Bitcoin users hate paper money Smiley I've actually decided I won't do business in paper anymore unless it's absolutely necessary. Nevermind all the economics stuff behind it, those twats will do anything to get your personal information and credit/debit card information so this is the best way I can think of to tell them to fuck off.
newbie
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September 01, 2013, 04:17:18 AM
#11
You've probably just opened a huge can of worms here, my friend. Grin  This is a deep and interesting topic that could span many books, but here is my abridged take, the ideas of which permeate the other comments in the thread.

The core basis beyond Bitcoin's popularity runs deeper, IMHO, than merely that fiat is inflationary and can be created by the press of a button by a certain privileged few, although that is certainly a big part of it.  In fact, as I'm sure many people on this board knows, it wasn't always the case that the US dollar was inflationary.  In fact, at one point in time, the US dollar was pegged to gold, and it wasn't until quite recently that the dollar became free-floating.  See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nixon_shock.  A free-floating dollar, printable by the Fed, enables all sorts of activities that are favorable to some, and not favorable to others.  While it is true that the dollar as it exists today benefits USG and enables it to do all sorts of things it would otherwise be unable to do, it would be incorrect to say that the dollar as it exists today only benefits the government.  An inflationary currency, generally speaking, benefits debtors at the expense of savers.  In addition to this, the current structure of USG and its banks allows certain parties to benefit more from the money-printing than others.  Those closer to the creation of money can reap the benefits of this new money before its effects are distributed to the wider populace.  In the US, these are mainly banks and other entities that have close ties with the Fed and central government.

My view is that Bitcoin is popular because it confers great power to the individual, power that central governments have managed to co-opt for most of history.  Indeed, the power of coinage is one of the greatest weapons a government can have, and enables the government to do one main thing that it would otherwise be unable to do - grow.  Giving up this power is something governments will not abide.  It is not a coincidence that Bitcoin is popular among a certain group of techno-libertarians, and population subset that doesn't conveniently align with the traditional political classifications that we're taught to identify with.  Having this as background with give a lot of context to the hostility of governments have for Bitcoin and virtual currencies.  While many might view Bitcoin has merely a new virtual currency that make certain payments easier and more cheaply, governments are quite aware of Bitcoin's true implications.
legendary
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Bitcoin: An Idea Worth Spending
September 01, 2013, 01:10:57 AM
#10
Upon reading the title of this thread, I couldn't help but wonder why rocks hate moving water.
legendary
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September 01, 2013, 01:01:35 AM
#9
Since there is a variety of things you can buy with it, i don't see the hate. Sure i'm all for bitcoin but i don't hate fiat money as well, i find it weird that some people just don't approve of it. Do they live off bitcoin or something? No offense. I'm just curious.
I think the core objection to fiat money is that the issuer can create an unlimited quantity of it, depriving other people of value and imposing a hidden tax.
legendary
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September 01, 2013, 12:37:59 AM
#8
Hate is inward-directed negativism.  

Just buy low and sell high.  Don't worry about the rest.





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August 31, 2013, 11:12:14 PM
#7
Since there is a variety of things you can buy with it, i don't see the hate. Sure i'm all for bitcoin but i don't hate fiat money as well, i find it weird that some people just don't approve of it. Do they live off bitcoin or something? No offense. I'm just curious.
Simple:

Bitcoin, chosen by each participant in the network freely = freedom
Fiat forced upon us by governments = slavery

I, a free man need no fucking Nimrod-In-Chief and his clique to tell me how to live my life. In fact, I find their presence harmful.
hero member
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Bitcoin: The People's Bailout
August 31, 2013, 11:07:43 PM
#6
Since there is a variety of things you can buy with it, i don't see the hate. Sure i'm all for bitcoin but i don't hate fiat money as well, i find it weird that some people just don't approve of it. Do they live off bitcoin or something? No offense. I'm just curious.

I think you'll find that a lot of folks in the Bitcoin community prefer to live below their means and accumulate savings.  Those who live beyond their means and tend to accumulate debt sometimes have a hard time understanding Bitcoin and are actually better off with fiat.

Money isn't just a medium of exchange.  It's also a store of value.  Bankers can't steal the purchasing power of bitcoins by creating more of them and then handing them over to politicians like they can with fiat.
newbie
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August 31, 2013, 11:05:30 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mII9NZ8MMVM

Another great video on the subject.
legendary
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August 31, 2013, 10:57:01 PM
#4
Since there is a variety of things you can buy with it, i don't see the hate. Sure i'm all for bitcoin but i don't hate fiat money as well, i find it weird that some people just don't approve of it. Do they live off bitcoin or something? No offense. I'm just curious.

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legendary
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August 31, 2013, 10:28:19 PM
#3
Since there is a variety of things you can buy with it, i don't see the hate. Sure i'm all for bitcoin but i don't hate fiat money as well, i find it weird that some people just don't approve of it. Do they live off bitcoin or something? No offense. I'm just curious.

Perhaps you are confusing hate with reasoned rejection. If you were to learn more about how fiat money works, you might reach the same conclusions.
legendary
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August 31, 2013, 10:20:53 PM
#2
society is sick of debt money.

another point, if you live in the states, just look at ever increasing national debt - does anyone sane think it's healthy?!
member
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August 31, 2013, 10:05:17 PM
#1
Since there is a variety of things you can buy with it, i don't see the hate. Sure i'm all for bitcoin but i don't hate fiat money as well, i find it weird that some people just don't approve of it. Do they live off bitcoin or something? No offense. I'm just curious.
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