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Quote from: roslinpl on December 14, 2022, 03:48:20 PM

You can’t blame all the projects blindly, because some projects are still working in project as a long in forum and real. So fake blaming of projects are not a good one. It’s true many projects get issues after some months. But if the project comes with the intention to scam the people, we can’t control them. Instead we should not participate in such gambling and skip them.

People here on this forum is really that too reactive for whatever issues and complaints on which a certain user or individual would throwing out on a certain platform.If things had been proved out and does

have those solid evidences then this is where the public or community would really be making out those conclusions and would really be warning out people on not to play.

Just like on what you do have on your signature. Cheesy

. There's lots of issues and its been highly frowned upon on this forum.
There's no perfect casino though but leaving those problems and issues remains unresolved then it would be an another story.

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You can’t blame all the projects blindly, because some projects are still working in project as a long in forum and real. So fake blaming of projects are not a good one. It’s true many projects get issues after some months. But if the project comes with the intention to scam the people, we can’t control them. Instead we should not participate in such gambling and skip them. We need to investigate of the websites to avoid of getting scam. In this forum some good campaign running by the trusted project. If they had funds to run a campaign, surely they have funds to pay the winners for sure.

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I've also noticed this on the accusations thread and almot all the casinos if not all have a negative reviews which ranges from scams, freezing of accounts and lots more and it is also disheartening and and discouraging.
The most annoying aspect of all the mentioned challenges mentioned by OP, what I hate the most is asking for a KYC after stating that you don't do KYC and maybe after a winning, you then start asking for KYC to me is a malicious way of getting money from people and I personally don't take this issue lightly, if you want to do KYC or you know that at some points, might ask for KYC, I would rather prefer you also make this clear to your customers.

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Quote from: RapTarX on December 13, 2022, 01:01:30 PM

If you have a look at the scam accusation section, you will find that no casino has a good reputation there. Each and every casino which has their ANN thread here, has at least one complaint against them; sometimes confiscated funds, delayed withdrawal, not paying the winning, freezing account etc. Why this is the principal of all the casinos? Why they can't operate without having any issues? They always do this shit; who knows what has been done with people who don't know how to deal with such a casino. Can you show me a thread that never had any reputation issues on this forum?

If we look at this from a logical perspective, we would also come to realize that almost all institutions that has anything to with money always have one or two complaints leveled against them by their customers. Hence, why casinos aren't left out. Mostly as gambling is involved, these complaints are bound to come in. This is why the terms and conditions and other licenses are stated and gotten, so as to defend themselves. A business is meant to make money, therefore it would prove beyond doubt against any of its decision and why it is right.

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Quote from: RapTarX on December 13, 2022, 01:01:30 PM

If you have a look at the scam accusation section, you will find that no casino has a good reputation there. Each and every casino which has their ANN thread here, has at least one complaint against them; sometimes confiscated funds, delayed withdrawal, not paying the winning, freezing account etc. Why this is the principal of all the casinos? Why they can't operate without having any issues? They always do this shit; who knows what has been done with people who don't know how to deal with such a casino. Can you show me a thread that never had any reputation issues on this forum?

Sorry to say but you are confused yourself mate, issue is not with casino but with their users.
Think about this deeply, have you gone round the world? Or your country, or maybe your neighborhood and found a business that is 100 percent perfect with no body coming to complain about one or two things that wasn't done well?
Of course there is no such business anywhere, it is the same with online casinos, you never can please every customer, many gamblers are unpleasable, that is no matter how you attend to them, they will still find a thing or two to complain about, some will see the rules staring them in the face and still refuse to read, some read it but still on purpose break it, and when the casino takes action on them, they go from forum to forum creating scam accusations against that casino.

So with all honesty, the problem is not with casinos having a bad habit, but with customers that cannot be pleased.

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Quote from: RapTarX on December 13, 2022, 01:01:30 PM

If you have a look at the scam accusation section, you will find that no casino has a good reputation there. Each and every casino which has their ANN thread here, has at least one complaint against them; sometimes confiscated funds, delayed withdrawal, not paying the winning, freezing account etc. Why this is the principal of all the casinos? Why they can't operate without having any issues? They always do this shit; who knows what has been done with people who don't know how to deal with such a casino. Can you show me a thread that never had any reputation issues on this forum?

It doesn't really mean that if one casino receives a scam accusation mean that it'll affect their reputation as it is normal for a platform to receive one. Also, based on the common complaint that you've mentioned, not all of it is the casino's fault but most likely the gambler or user's fault. Each casino has their own set of ToS and if a user violated it, they'll be subjected for some punishments such as account frozen and confiscated funds. Another issue is that these users don't like the service that casino provides and complains about it.

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Quote from: goldkingcoiner on December 14, 2022, 11:36:50 AM

I believe that most of the scam accusations against casinos are just frustrated gamblers who made a big loss and are looking for a way to vent. And what better way than besmirch the reputation of the online gambling casino which took all their money? Its a bit silly but understandably quite a human reaction. That being said, sometimes there are scam casinos that get what they deserve when somebody exposes their scam. But that happens much more rarely than disgruntled gamblers letting off steam. So you should take any scam accusation, especially those without proof, with a grain of salt.

I completely agree, we should not always blame the casino, because in the accusation threads, we often see how it is the user who had done something wrong and instead of accepting that he has been caught, he writes a false accusation in the forum. Therefore I do not agree with the premise, with the title of the thread, which asks why all casinos have bad habits, when it is not so, there are only a few and in general if all were so bad this section would not have so much traffic nor would it be so important for Bitcointalk.org.

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Quote from: goldkingcoiner on December 14, 2022, 11:36:50 AM

I believe that most of the scam accusations against casinos are just frustrated gamblers who made a big loss and are looking for a way to vent. And what better way than besmirch the reputation of the online gambling casino which took all their money? Its a bit silly but understandably quite a human reaction. That being said, sometimes there are scam casinos that get what they deserve when somebody exposes their scam. But that happens much more rarely than disgruntled gamblers letting off steam. So you should take any scam accusation, especially those without proof, with a grain of salt.

You are right that scam accusations for casino sites are lesser than reports from new token projects, but every scam accusations can be checked from detailed reports that have been alleged to a particular casino, but if a report is not valid to bring down the reputation of the casino then the complainant should be penalized for reputation low trust accounts, so even if they make false accusations against the casino they don't have valid evidence, so the purpose of the report is because of the impingement factor for high losses in gambling.

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Quote from: RapTarX on December 13, 2022, 01:01:30 PM

If you have a look at the scam accusation section, you will find that no casino has a good reputation there. Each and every casino which has their ANN thread here, has at least one complaint against them; sometimes confiscated funds, delayed withdrawal, not paying the winning, freezing account etc. Why this is the principal of all the casinos? Why they can't operate without having any issues? They always do this shit; who knows what has been done with people who don't know how to deal with such a casino. Can you show me a thread that never had any reputation issues on this forum?

I believe that most of the scam accusations against casinos are just frustrated gamblers who made a big loss and are looking for a way to vent. And what better way than besmirch the reputation of the online gambling casino which took all their money? Its a bit silly but understandably quite a human reaction. That being said, sometimes there are scam casinos that get what they deserve when somebody exposes their scam. But that happens much more rarely than disgruntled gamblers letting off steam. So you should take any scam accusation, especially those without proof, with a grain of salt.

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Quote from: RapTarX on December 13, 2022, 01:01:30 PM

If you have a look at the scam accusation section, you will find that no casino has a good reputation there. Each and every casino which has their ANN thread here, has at least one complaint against them; sometimes confiscated funds, delayed withdrawal, not paying the winning, freezing account etc. Why this is the principal of all the casinos? Why they can't operate without having any issues? They always do this shit; who knows what has been done with people who don't know how to deal with such a casino. Can you show me a thread that never had any reputation issues on this forum?

Every casino will have some flaws since it is operated by humans. I don't think this is a bad sign. Because when a problem occurs we will get its solution and developers will also pay attention to its issues in the future. A casino gambling company is not built in a day. It gradually matured and then came to the gamblers. But what matters is what error you get and how professionally it is handled by the authorities. If I get a good response from them naturally after an error then it has no effect on the gambling. Moreover, I also agree that no one can claim a 100% flawless gambling platform.

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anyone will never be satisfied with the services and conditions that have been set by the casino, sometimes for the sake of fighting fraudulent users sometimes the casino is firm in stopping it by taking serious action as OP mentioned, but again everyone's trust is to play gambling based on players active and have good experience in casinos, so far no casino is completely clean from accusations, but they keep going and all accusation problems can be solved with valid evidence if there is no evidence then the accusations will disappear by themselves Wink

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Quote from: RapTarX on December 13, 2022, 01:01:30 PM

If you have a look at the scam accusation section, you will find that no casino has a good reputation there. Each and every casino which has their ANN thread here, has at least one complaint against them; sometimes confiscated funds, delayed withdrawal, not paying the winning, freezing account etc. Why this is the principal of all the casinos? Why they can't operate without having any issues? They always do this shit; who knows what has been done with people who don't know how to deal with such a casino. Can you show me a thread that never had any reputation issues on this forum?

Just as it is applicable to casinos same way we have many gamblers who are abusers of the gambling sites, yet we still have some particular set of gamblers out of their no patience will just have to lay complaints on every encounters they have even when been attended to, i believe there's a process to the administration of every challenges with casinos, that's why we have many of the casinos available for one to choose his choice should incase not satisfied by one, such gambler can always change to another with better offers.

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Quote from: RapTarX on December 13, 2022, 01:01:30 PM

If you have a look at the scam accusation section, you will find that no casino has a good reputation there. Each and every casino which has their ANN thread here, has at least one complaint against them; sometimes confiscated funds, delayed withdrawal, not paying the winning, freezing account etc. Why this is the principal of all the casinos? Why they can't operate without having any issues? They always do this shit; who knows what has been done with people who don't know how to deal with such a casino. Can you show me a thread that never had any reputation issues on this forum?

A casino can have a lot of scam accusations but still enjoy the trust of the community and its representative respected that's because these accusations are baseless, cannot hold ground, and backfire on those who file these complaints this is a forum, anyone is open to creating an accusation but they need to have solid proof and can prove without a doubt that they are right and the casino is wrong, all the top casinos here like Stake, Duelbits and other top casinos have a lot of accusations but they still enjoy the trust of the community because those accusations fell short.

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Quote from: Yogee on December 14, 2022, 10:30:55 AM

Keep in mind that some casinos have changed their TOS over time and I would assume some of their old members were unaware or never notified of such changes. I also remember reading a case where the casino immediately revised the terms when a player opened up a scam accusation against them.

As a savvy user seeing the development of a project's TOS will help to avoid some complaints that may not be necessary. Because some members who complain are usually related to problems that actually have solutions. Regarding the various kinds of complaints that have become a business risk, without complaints there will be no progress in the casino project. So it is very necessary to update you about the casino developments that are being followed.

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Quote from: RapTarX on December 13, 2022, 01:01:30 PM

Can you show me a thread that never had any reputation issues on this forum?

I would even think that if there is a thread where there is no complaints at all as a suspicious.
Simply because I do believe it is normal for casinos to have issues because there is no perfect casinos.

A business without complaints is true to be suspected because no matter how big the business is, there will definitely be some complaints regarding server problems, withdrawals, deposits, etc., that will definitely happen.
A no-complaint casino is probably a failed casino and doesn't have many users.

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Quote from: RapTarX on December 13, 2022, 01:01:30 PM

Why they can't operate without having any issues? They always do this shit; who knows what has been done with people who don't know how to deal with such a casino.

No project without complaints/issues, you will not find even one in this world, not only in gambling industry but in all kind of industry.
Even a big company like Tesla, Apple, Microsoft and others are receiving complaints from their users, is it something that you think uncommon and you consider it as really bad thing?
How can you say that having issues is the same as doing shit without looking at what is the issue and how the owner deal with the issue?

Quote from: RapTarX on December 13, 2022, 01:01:30 PM

Can you show me a thread that never had any reputation issues on this forum?

I would even think that if there is a thread where there is no complaints at all as a suspicious.
Simply because I do believe it is normal for casinos to have issues because there is no perfect casinos.

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Quote from: Genemind on December 13, 2022, 02:15:11 PM

There's no perfect business.

This is the simple answer to the OP's questions. It happens even in brick and mortar establishments. A highly rated and reviewed restaurants will always have people complaining about their food or service.

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Some users are complaining before even reading the TOS and not noticing that they are breaking it. I would say there will be no funds frozen or account banned if users had read the TOS carefully and if they are not abusing the casino.

Keep in mind that some casinos have changed their TOS over time and I would assume some of their old members were unaware or never notified of such changes. I also remember reading a case where the casino immediately revised the terms when a player opened up a scam accusation against them.

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Quote from: RapTarX on December 13, 2022, 01:01:30 PM

If you have a look at the scam accusation section, you will find that no casino has a good reputation there.

Not all of them there are threads on casino shows resolved and there are accusations that turn out that the accuser is a cheater and the casino did the right thing, anyone can open an accusation but providing evidences and proving that the casino wronged you is a different story.

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Each and every casino which has their ANN thread here, has at least one complaint against them; sometimes confiscated funds, delayed withdrawal, not paying the winning, freezing account etc. Why this is the principal of all the casinos? Why they can't operate without having any issues?

A casino that wants to build its reputation here will not want an existing thread in the scam section, but they have rules that they want to be implemented to their rules for orderly and compliant, and some of the accusations are based on breaking these rules

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They always do this shit; who knows what has been done with people who don't know how to deal with such a casino. Can you show me a thread that never had any reputation issues on this forum?

You need to take a look at every thread and weigh who is right and who is wrong and not generalize every thread created there.

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Quote from: RapTarX on December 13, 2022, 01:01:30 PM

If you have a look at the scam accusation section, you will find that no casino has a good reputation there. Each and every casino which has their ANN thread here, has at least one complaint against them; sometimes confiscated funds, delayed withdrawal, not paying the winning, freezing account etc. Why this is the principal of all the casinos? Why they can't operate without having any issues? They always do this shit; who knows what has been done with people who don't know how to deal with such a casino. Can you show me a thread that never had any reputation issues on this forum?

Even if you are on your OP you know that there is no perfect casino here cryptocurrency right? Almost all of the well-known casinos here that I have seen in signature campaigns weekly have only had issues that I have read, and most of them have been users on their platform whose problem was abusive.

And the others are still making up a story to destroy gambling that for them they were cheated and robbed, but the truth is that it is not really.

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Quote from: RapTarX on December 13, 2022, 01:01:30 PM

If you have a look at the scam accusation section, you will find that no casino has a good reputation there. Each and every casino which has their ANN thread here, has at least one complaint against them; sometimes confiscated funds, delayed withdrawal, not paying the winning, freezing account etc. Why this is the principal of all the casinos? Why they can't operate without having any issues? They always do this shit; who knows what has been done with people who don't know how to deal with such a casino. Can you show me a thread that never had any reputation issues on this forum?

The thing is what if most of these accusations are done by trolls hired by some gambling site to target another gambling site. I'm not accusing anybody here but the way how lax the rules are in the forum most of the time, I wouldn't really be surprised if that was the case. I mean name the most scammy gambling site there is in BCT then ask yourself how long have they been operating and why are they even still allowed to operate? Shouldn't they be shit down by LE by now?

And why would a gambling site scam their own customers? Wouldn't that be bad for business?

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Quote from: RapTarX on December 13, 2022, 01:01:30 PM

If you have a look at the scam accusation section, you will find that no casino has a good reputation there. Each and every casino which has their ANN thread here, has at least one complaint against them; sometimes confiscated funds, delayed withdrawal, not paying the winning, freezing account etc. Why this is the principal of all the casinos? Why they can't operate without having any issues?

the majority of gambling sites still use the same software as each other, which is the reason why the problems that occur on gambling sites look the same. Apart from that, operators are also still managing the gambling site manually - it causes complaints submitted by customers to be processed for quite a long time and many even have to register tickets. cmiiw

Quote from: RapTarX on December 13, 2022, 01:01:30 PM

They always do this shit; who knows what has been done with people who don't know how to deal with such a casino. Can you show me a thread that never had any reputation issues on this forum?

regardless if it is a fake or real report - looks like 99% of gambling sites that are in this forum and not in this forum, have received scam accusations from users.

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