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December 02, 2024, 02:36:24 AM
#77

True.... But the main point of sports betting is to be profitable, but it's not for everyone. Non-popular sports usually have limited information available, as only a few people are interested in them.
It’s not a problem if you’re familiar with unpopular sports. Besides, you don’t need to consider everyone’s opinion about it as long as you’re making money. The main point is to be profitable, right?

On the other hand, popular games come with tons of websites providing stats we can use to analyze the match. While it doesn’t guarantee a win, having more information to work with is definitely better than having just a little, especially when we’re trying to make confident predictions. After all, we’re all just playing the game of prediction.
Popular games are more transparent, but there are still rumors that even these are rigged. In all kinds of leagues and sports, you can find numerous rumors or conspiracy videos online. So, while there's no guarantee of winning, the key point is that you're not betting blindly because you have transparent information to analyze.
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December 02, 2024, 01:40:59 AM
#76
There's a huge reason to avoid betting on unpopular sports.
Usually the teams are not close to a fully professional level which means that their form isn't predictable or reliable. Therefore the odds are really shit.
This is not always true, though professional sports are more popular and more predictable, it's not all lesser ones that are unpredictable. As a fact, some people even prefer them, they often gamble with them because of the high odds attached to the cadre, unlike professional sports with a very low odds attached to the sure team that will win.

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Athletes in college sports are putting all  this effort and are paid nothing. Did you know that until very recently when there was a huge lawsuit reaching judgment, there was no agreement to compensate college athletes at all in the US?
I know, and I didn't expect them to be paid anything, but of course, there will be some perks, honour and sponsorships. This is not different from what is happening in other parts of the world, college is still a context here and those guys give their best because they are energised at that age and excited to do so. They can from there become whatever they want to become having shown what they've got to the world, the money can be made later.
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December 01, 2024, 05:14:29 PM
#75
Well... many topics in one idea, I think it is the personal approach that matters, specializing in a sport and/or leagueis crucial, regardless of whether it is professional or not.
True.... But the main point of sports betting is to be profitable, but it's not for everyone. Non-popular sports usually have limited information available, as only a few people are interested in them. On the other hand, popular games come with tons of websites providing stats we can use to analyze the match. While it doesn’t guarantee a win, having more information to work with is definitely better than having just a little, especially when we’re trying to make confident predictions. After all, we’re all just playing the game of prediction.
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December 01, 2024, 05:05:09 PM
#74
There's a huge reason to avoid betting on unpopular sports.
Usually the teams are not close to a fully professional level which means that their form isn't predictable or reliable. Therefore the odds are really shit.
Unless you have good knowledge of these athletes yourself for some reason, it's not worth the risk.

For instance, if you bet on handball, most athletes in most countries have to have second jobs to sustain their presence in the sport, sometimes even in the top teams on this sport the salary isn't enough. What does this mean? Very few athletes that would otherwise be peak athletes are willing to partake in the sport after a certain point. Each team's performance is therefore hindered by many issues. The same teams playing against each other in a different universe can deliver wildly different results. The small teams can beat the huge ones etc.

And yet, the NCAA, the biggest college league for several sports, makes millions from broadcasting these games, selling rights and sports betting results.
But you would notice that in NCAA, even if you bet on a parlay with 10 games of 1.05 odds, it's more likely you'll be losing because upsets are more common than in a fully professional league.

Athletes in college sports are putting all  this effort and are paid nothing. Did you know that until very recently when there was a huge lawsuit reaching judgment, there was no agreement to compensate college athletes at all in the US?
https://www.thedp.com/article/2024/10/penn-ncaa-settlement-player-payment

So this also brings us to the point where ethicality has to be discussed. If we're spending money betting on a sport, doesn't it feel a little wrong to know the athletes earn nothing or close to nothing from this activity? Maybe at least crypto bookies should take the initiative to fund more small sports associations on the local level. 

I can say that I strongly disagree with you on three points:

1. The odds are normal, but the bookmaker's margin is not, because the less popular the competition, the higher the risks + less liquidity.
2. If there are many upsets, then why not just bet on the underdog and get rich.
3. When you bet on unpopular sports, you increase interest in them, when you ignore them, on the contrary. Think about it.
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December 01, 2024, 04:52:29 PM
#73
Well... many topics in one idea, I think it is the personal approach that matters, specializing in a sport and/or leagueis crucial, regardless of whether it is professional or not.
legendary
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December 01, 2024, 02:34:10 PM
#72
I also avoid betting or even considering non-pro sports or virtual sports. Because I have noticed how random results are, each of such athletes, teams dont show constant results. While participating against someone 10 times, the results will be random. That is noticeable especially in virtual sports. A team that is good on one map or playing with specific team or character, is good only at specific moments, and can show very low performance in next game. For example in counter-strike, if one team is winning with score 16:1, it does not mean that on the next map, this team will be as dominant as now.
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December 01, 2024, 02:23:13 PM
#71
My suggestion on this topic? Always avoid to bet games with "strange odds". Try to bet live watching a game.  
I could remember few weeks ago I tried to bet on a live odd (match) and I saw the difference, the thing is to bet on live game is either wait for the first half or target the second half with this you can determine what the possible outcome could be. Betting on live game reduces the risk to about 40% but the odds are usually very poor and for someone to have reasonable odds it would take you about 8-15 different matches to achieve at least 5-6 odds.

The real thing that most of people are not aware... fixed matches can be easily disputed by bookmakers = you will not get rewarded !
Even if you know an event like this, you will have very low odds, no market, and the risk to not get your money in case of win.
No, I will just not follow any match like this.
In case there are real "good news" and fixed matche, you are not aware of it... Roll Eyes
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December 01, 2024, 02:22:28 PM
#70
My biggest wins in gambling came from betting on unpopular clubs which is what you addressed as non-pro sports. In advanced leagues, any small team can defeat a big team just like Barcelona was embarrassed by a small team yesterday. But in those unpopular leagues, such rarely happen and if you carefully select your game, you will win and enjoy the big odd that is always given to the clubs because their stats are not completely know.
What club is that? Not only those like EPL, Bundesliga, Seria A, French Lique 1 and other tops leagues are only the popular leagues. I also do go for other leagues but which are good also in a way that manipulation is not significantly or not existing. The reason some people do not like unpopular leagues is because of how matches can be manipulated there.
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December 01, 2024, 01:48:02 PM
#69
I don’t understand why it is our business to make people watch WNBA or other similar unpopular leagues. People watch NBA more because they like it more. Who are we to tell other people what to watch, what to like? Gender equality is a scam.
NBA is a lot more popular because it has existed a lot longer and has accumulated a bigger fanbase already. NBA is now an established league and has people from all over the world watching. It’s not really the same for women who were discouraged from playing sports that were seen as exclusively for men.

I agree that we shouldn’t force it but as a society and as a man, we also have to reevaluate why we don’t want to watch it. Is it because the league isn’t at its best yet or is it because you think of women as inferior? That’s the difference.

Anyway going back to the original point, I do think leagues like WNBA will generate more attention next time but right now if you are the only bettor on the event it’s kind of pointless.

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December 01, 2024, 01:27:05 PM
#68

The locals know more of those players yet all the international bettors need to know are just the odds given by the bookmakers in order to casts bets on these matches. They don't even need to watch the game yet somehow tend to win their bets which is kind of tempting to do as well. There have been some topics about this and interestingly the casinos are making those matches available to all which is why those guys brags about their strategy that works for local matches.

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December 01, 2024, 12:26:59 PM
#67
I wouldn’t say it’s totally a waste of time, but betting on non-pro sports is less exciting and even less rewarding for most of us here who are regular gamblers. This kind of sports will result more unpredictable outcomes, making us lost the excitement unlike if we are watching professional games/players. The quality of the competition is low and so it becomes less engaging for us, thus losing the public interest because of poor quality of the competition, wherein fans or bettors will no longer feel the excitement anymore.
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December 01, 2024, 12:23:20 PM
#66
My biggest wins in gambling came from betting on unpopular clubs which is what you addressed as non-pro sports. In advanced leagues, any small team can defeat a big team just like Barcelona was embarrassed by a small team yesterday. But in those unpopular leagues, such rarely happen and if you carefully select your game, you will win and enjoy the big odd that is always given to the clubs because their stats are not completely know.
For some reason that is going well for you... and that's cool. I have tried several times with bets on unpopular sports or very low and unpopular leagues, but they were all failures. So I avoid betting on nonpopular sports and teams in lower leagues. As in many other things, in gambling something can work for one but not for many others.
Have you tried armature leagues of Poland with the option of home score over 1.5 goals in some carefully selected matches where home is the stronger and away concede a lot of goals? Just run a simple analysis on that league as an example and give me your feedback. You can also check first division of Singapore and second division of Slovakia for over  3.5 and over 2.5 goals respectively. Just go through these few unpopular leagues for the options I gave and see the outcome.
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December 01, 2024, 12:15:08 PM
#65
My biggest wins in gambling came from betting on unpopular clubs which is what you addressed as non-pro sports. In advanced leagues, any small team can defeat a big team just like Barcelona was embarrassed by a small team yesterday. But in those unpopular leagues, such rarely happen and if you carefully select your game, you will win and enjoy the big odd that is always given to the clubs because their stats are not completely know.
The Barcelona defeat yesterday was quite very funny and I lost a fortune from that bet. Maybe next I will not undermine unpopular club and I will be more smart when picking odds. We all thought that Barcelona is going to win or rather draw the match, I was quite shocked when I noticed that till 85 minutes, Barcelona could not score another goal to make the match a draw. This is one of the most annoying match I've ever seen and I think I will be very conscious next time. It is better I bet unpopular sport and lose the bet than to bet on big team and find out that they could not even impress the fans and those that have bet on the match.
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December 01, 2024, 12:11:05 PM
#64
Unpopular sports like this are mostly ending up to be match fixing. A lot of people have talked about match fixing and how they’re been organized in favour of a team so that those that bet on the games can win big. Match fixing is more prevalent in unpopular football teams that are not fully under regulations, not abiding mostly by the rules of the game. Mostly the officials are bribed to allow one of the teams to win the game, so it’ll be hard to see a tough time for teams that are not in the right position to score even when they happen to be the better team to win the match. One thing I’ve also noticed in match fixing games is that, the home team is mostly favoured and if the officials do not officiate in favour of the home team, he may be harmed before leaving that premises. It is better to avoid betting on such games as the outcome is already known even before the match is played.
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December 01, 2024, 12:08:11 PM
#63
There's a huge reason to avoid betting on unpopular sports.
Usually the teams are not close to a fully professional level which means that their form isn't predictable or reliable. Therefore the odds are really shit.
Unless you have good knowledge of these athletes yourself for some reason, it's not worth the risk.

For instance, if you bet on handball, most athletes in most countries have to have second jobs to sustain their presence in the sport, sometimes even in the top teams on this sport the salary isn't enough. What does this mean? Very few athletes that would otherwise be peak athletes are willing to partake in the sport after a certain point. Each team's performance is therefore hindered by many issues. The same teams playing against each other in a different universe can deliver wildly different results. The small teams can beat the huge ones etc.

And yet, the NCAA, the biggest college league for several sports, makes millions from broadcasting these games, selling rights and sports betting results.
But you would notice that in NCAA, even if you bet on a parlay with 10 games of 1.05 odds, it's more likely you'll be losing because upsets are more common than in a fully professional league.

Athletes in college sports are putting all  this effort and are paid nothing. Did you know that until very recently when there was a huge lawsuit reaching judgment, there was no agreement to compensate college athletes at all in the US?
https://www.thedp.com/article/2024/10/penn-ncaa-settlement-player-payment

So this also brings us to the point where ethicality has to be discussed. If we're spending money betting on a sport, doesn't it feel a little wrong to know the athletes earn nothing or close to nothing from this activity? Maybe at least crypto bookies should take the initiative to fund more small sports associations on the local level. 
I also avoid betting on unknown leagues and teams, I don't trust the odds given by bookmakers on these unknown teams. I made an experiment, placed a bet on 3 games, it was a football team from India if I remember correctly, the odds of each of the teams winning was 10, so the sum odd of my ticket was 1000. Two teams out of three with 10 odds of win, won the match, only the 3rd one lost and the match result was 2-1.
For me, this experiment proved that we shouldn't bet on unknown sports leagues and teams. We also shouldn't make a bet according to the odds because sometimes bookmakers give low odds to a team that's likely to lose and high odds to a team that's likely to win. I know that sounds strange but many people place a blind bet on sports teams, so casinos use that advantage to cheat on odds of unknown teams.
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December 01, 2024, 11:29:03 AM
#62
They are also prone to fixed matches. WNBA is a good example too. It's professional sports and yet it's almost like everything is scripted. Because the league pays little to the WNBA players, they are also prone to finding other jobs to secure their future which means some players could be exhausted before they play the game or they won't even play at all.
The only good thing about the WNBA is that many players are fighting for something and one of those is gender equality which is a big thing. By showing how women can also make greatness, it will be seen by others who are against it and maybe it will change even if it's slow. Let's face it, there's a big difference in the number of fanbase of the NBA versus the WNBA.

I don’t understand why it is our business to make people watch WNBA or other similar unpopular leagues. People watch NBA more because they like it more. Who are we to tell other people what to watch, what to like? Gender equality is a scam. There are certain stuff which women are good at doing and vice versa. Genders are already equal in that sense, however some morons think men should get pregnant and women should become commandos. That my friend will never happen. The more the woke/swj turds push this scam, the more irritating it gets. If they keep doing it, next time another Trump will win the election.
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December 01, 2024, 11:16:10 AM
#61
My biggest wins in gambling came from betting on unpopular clubs which is what you addressed as non-pro sports. In advanced leagues, any small team can defeat a big team just like Barcelona was embarrassed by a small team yesterday. But in those unpopular leagues, such rarely happen and if you carefully select your game, you will win and enjoy the big odd that is always given to the clubs because their stats are not completely know.

For some reason that is going well for you... and that's cool. I have tried several times with bets on unpopular sports or very low and unpopular leagues, but they were all failures. So I avoid betting on nonpopular sports and teams in lower leagues. As in many other things, in gambling something can work for one but not for many others.

So this also brings us to the point where ethicality has to be discussed. If we're spending money betting on a sport, doesn't it feel a little wrong to know the athletes earn nothing or close to nothing from this activity? Maybe at least crypto bookies should take the initiative to fund more small sports associations on the local level. 

In my country, casinos do something like that. They invest in some teams and whole leagues, equip sports fields all over the country, and things like that. I think they get a good tax break for it, and more importantly, they make a lot of publicity out of it...


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December 01, 2024, 11:02:59 AM
#60
My biggest wins in gambling came from betting on unpopular clubs which is what you addressed as non-pro sports. In advanced leagues, any small team can defeat a big team just like Barcelona was embarrassed by a small team yesterday. But in those unpopular leagues, such rarely happen and if you carefully select your game, you will win and enjoy the big odd that is always given to the clubs because their stats are not completely know.
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December 01, 2024, 10:52:39 AM
#59
So this also brings us to the point where ethicality has to be discussed. If we're spending money betting on a sport, doesn't it feel a little wrong to know the athletes earn nothing or close to nothing from this activity? Maybe at least crypto bookies should take the initiative to fund more small sports associations on the local level. 

It would be nice if such a thing happened, sure but there would be a problem with that approach... Usually casinos and sport bookies sponsor leagues of sport which are professional and are very popular in their own betting platforms. They sponsor teams because they are popular already and they would like to bring fans into betting for the first time in their bookies and markets, that is the objective of those sponsorships. On the other hand, there is no warranty a sport or league will suddenly become popular because they count on with the money and name provided by a casino, it takes much more than that for a sport to take off and start to bring gamblers and bettors willing to risk their money. So even though I agree it is unfair for those people not to be able to live off their passion, a big casino alone would not be able to reverse the situation and make something considered to be a niche sport into a popular one.
Sports like Football and Baseball are themselves or big cultural meaning in entire countries, like Brazil and the United States,.for example.
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December 01, 2024, 10:51:51 AM
#58
I wouldn’t bet on non-pro sports mostly because I wouldn’t care to watch the games. Maybe if it was something ridiculous it might be fun, but college sports to me aren’t worth watching. The only exception is when I want to check out a big up and coming player before they hit the big leagues.

That's what I think too. I'm not a big sports bettor but when I do it is mostly because I will watch the match and I want to increase a little bit the thrill: we always have a team, player, fighter etc. we want to see winning, and that's enough, but adding a little extra prize to the equation makes sense.

What doesn't make sense to me is betting in non-pro sports you don't understand or you don't mind even watching, because it is like pure gambling, and I think that there are better games for that.
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