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legendary
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December 05, 2024, 02:01:49 AM
#86

Since the athletes are putting in more efforts I think they should be ransomely compensated for that cause they are putting in their best, sincerely speaking it's un called for  that the bookies could actually act this mean. And I feel bad to hear that the athletes don't get a cut from the bets, cause since they are a small sports in the game they require more financial aid to boost their efficiency.

Non-professional sports initially imply that athletes either do not earn or earn very little, and often bookmakers do not accept bets on such sports, and if they do, then you need to be very careful with these bets, because it seems to me that in this case it is much easier to organize a fixed game. Maybe I am wrong, but I have no desire to check this, I will not be able to prove it and therefore I will simply not consider such games for betting.
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December 05, 2024, 01:45:28 AM
#85
On the brighter side, it's actually good if you are fond of betting on underdogs. The odds are better and yet the probability of an upset is also higher. Especially if you're closely following such leagues and you're already familiar with the players, their plays, their tendencies, and so on, it might be easier for you to catch great odds.

But I doubt that the odds aren't pretty much reflective of the possible outcomes. Oddsmakers don't release odds on sports and leagues they aren't familiar with.
I often catch such mistakes, but it is difficult enough. You have to know if the bookie would give this match, if the odds would be interesting enough. So if you`re serious in such bets - it is good way to get fast money, but it wouldn`t be easy money. And searching information would be a big part of the job.
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December 04, 2024, 11:12:40 PM
#84

So this also brings us to the point where ethicality has to be discussed. If we're spending money betting on a sport, doesn't it feel a little wrong to know the athletes earn nothing or close to nothing from this activity? Maybe at least crypto bookies should take the initiative to fund more small sports associations on the local level. 

Since the athletes are putting in more efforts I think they should be ransomely compensated for that cause they are putting in their best, sincerely speaking it's un called for  that the bookies could actually act this mean. And I feel bad to hear that the athletes don't get a cut from the bets, cause since they are a small sports in the game they require more financial aid to boost their efficiency.
legendary
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December 04, 2024, 10:54:15 PM
#83
Curious about this. I remember seeing interviews with successful bettors who said that in the past they were able to succeed precisely because they bet on this type of sports competitions, where the bookmakers did not adjust the odds so well. Something that with time has become more difficult as well. Now the OP gives us this vision according to which it would be the other way around and I can not judge because I have not played sports betting in my life more than the occasional bet.

On the brighter side, it's actually good if you are fond of betting on underdogs. The odds are better and yet the probability of an upset is also higher. Especially if you're closely following such leagues and you're already familiar with the players, their plays, their tendencies, and so on, it might be easier for you to catch great odds.

But I doubt that the odds aren't pretty much reflective of the possible outcomes. Oddsmakers don't release odds on sports and leagues they aren't familiar with.

This is more in line with my understanding.
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December 04, 2024, 09:25:18 PM
#82
For instance, if you bet on handball, most athletes in most countries have to have second jobs to sustain their presence in the sport, sometimes even in the top teams on this sport the salary isn't enough. What does this mean? Very few athletes that would otherwise be peak athletes are willing to partake in the sport after a certain point. Each team's performance is therefore hindered by many issues. The same teams playing against each other in a different universe can deliver wildly different results. The small teams can beat the huge ones etc.
the same thing happened to athletes in my country. They look for side jobs to maintain their life, there are even some athletes working as an Uber online in the morning and playing football for the clubs in the afternoon. definitely, the match result will always be unexpected even have good odds for the clubs because the athletes already tired on the fields.
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December 04, 2024, 09:04:57 PM
#81
My biggest wins in gambling came from betting on unpopular clubs which is what you addressed as non-pro sports. In advanced leagues, any small team can defeat a big team just like Barcelona was embarrassed by a small team yesterday. But in those unpopular leagues, such rarely happen and if you carefully select your game, you will win and enjoy the big odd that is always given to the clubs because their stats are not completely know.
Anything may happen by chance. The bet you have to win is probably by chance. Though gambling depends on luck/by chance and/or strategy Yet for non-pro sports technical analysis or data base analysis might not be possible. And for that reason it is hardly impossible to guess who may win the game.
Yes, anything may happen because that will depends on luck. He got his lucky in unpopular match so he can win and take the money. Well, that will not always happens since analyze the unpopular match will not easy. We must search for more information from more sources because I think the information will not available on the place that we often use to search the information. Even though they have a good skill in analysis, but without more information about the unpopular match, they will not have a chance to pick the right choice.
legendary
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December 04, 2024, 08:37:28 PM
#80
On the brighter side, it's actually good if you are fond of betting on underdogs. The odds are better and yet the probability of an upset is also higher. Especially if you're closely following such leagues and you're already familiar with the players, their plays, their tendencies, and so on, it might be easier for you to catch great odds.

But I doubt that the odds aren't pretty much reflective of the possible outcomes. Oddsmakers don't release odds on sports and leagues they aren't familiar with.
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December 04, 2024, 07:25:31 PM
#79
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Literally I won't want to bet on a game I don't know of. The most popular sport we all bet on is soccer. I usually just prefer sticking to one game as it's easier to analyze such game and get better results during your betting. Why most of these sports aren't popular is because they have less sponsors compared to those that has a mass population of lovers, fans and sponsors. Such games would want to be seen and heard of any updates and thus people would want to place bets on them.
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December 04, 2024, 06:54:39 PM
#78
My biggest wins in gambling came from betting on unpopular clubs which is what you addressed as non-pro sports. In advanced leagues, any small team can defeat a big team just like Barcelona was embarrassed by a small team yesterday. But in those unpopular leagues, such rarely happen and if you carefully select your game, you will win and enjoy the big odd that is always given to the clubs because their stats are not completely know.
Anything may happen by chance. The bet you have to win is probably by chance. Though gambling depends on luck/by chance and/or strategy Yet for non-pro sports technical analysis or data base analysis might not be possible. And for that reason it is hardly impossible to guess who may win the game.
hero member
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December 02, 2024, 02:36:24 AM
#77

True.... But the main point of sports betting is to be profitable, but it's not for everyone. Non-popular sports usually have limited information available, as only a few people are interested in them.
It’s not a problem if you’re familiar with unpopular sports. Besides, you don’t need to consider everyone’s opinion about it as long as you’re making money. The main point is to be profitable, right?

On the other hand, popular games come with tons of websites providing stats we can use to analyze the match. While it doesn’t guarantee a win, having more information to work with is definitely better than having just a little, especially when we’re trying to make confident predictions. After all, we’re all just playing the game of prediction.
Popular games are more transparent, but there are still rumors that even these are rigged. In all kinds of leagues and sports, you can find numerous rumors or conspiracy videos online. So, while there's no guarantee of winning, the key point is that you're not betting blindly because you have transparent information to analyze.
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December 02, 2024, 01:40:59 AM
#76
There's a huge reason to avoid betting on unpopular sports.
Usually the teams are not close to a fully professional level which means that their form isn't predictable or reliable. Therefore the odds are really shit.
This is not always true, though professional sports are more popular and more predictable, it's not all lesser ones that are unpredictable. As a fact, some people even prefer them, they often gamble with them because of the high odds attached to the cadre, unlike professional sports with a very low odds attached to the sure team that will win.

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Athletes in college sports are putting all  this effort and are paid nothing. Did you know that until very recently when there was a huge lawsuit reaching judgment, there was no agreement to compensate college athletes at all in the US?
I know, and I didn't expect them to be paid anything, but of course, there will be some perks, honour and sponsorships. This is not different from what is happening in other parts of the world, college is still a context here and those guys give their best because they are energised at that age and excited to do so. They can from there become whatever they want to become having shown what they've got to the world, the money can be made later.
hero member
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December 01, 2024, 05:14:29 PM
#75
Well... many topics in one idea, I think it is the personal approach that matters, specializing in a sport and/or leagueis crucial, regardless of whether it is professional or not.
True.... But the main point of sports betting is to be profitable, but it's not for everyone. Non-popular sports usually have limited information available, as only a few people are interested in them. On the other hand, popular games come with tons of websites providing stats we can use to analyze the match. While it doesn’t guarantee a win, having more information to work with is definitely better than having just a little, especially when we’re trying to make confident predictions. After all, we’re all just playing the game of prediction.
legendary
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December 01, 2024, 05:05:09 PM
#74
There's a huge reason to avoid betting on unpopular sports.
Usually the teams are not close to a fully professional level which means that their form isn't predictable or reliable. Therefore the odds are really shit.
Unless you have good knowledge of these athletes yourself for some reason, it's not worth the risk.

For instance, if you bet on handball, most athletes in most countries have to have second jobs to sustain their presence in the sport, sometimes even in the top teams on this sport the salary isn't enough. What does this mean? Very few athletes that would otherwise be peak athletes are willing to partake in the sport after a certain point. Each team's performance is therefore hindered by many issues. The same teams playing against each other in a different universe can deliver wildly different results. The small teams can beat the huge ones etc.

And yet, the NCAA, the biggest college league for several sports, makes millions from broadcasting these games, selling rights and sports betting results.
But you would notice that in NCAA, even if you bet on a parlay with 10 games of 1.05 odds, it's more likely you'll be losing because upsets are more common than in a fully professional league.

Athletes in college sports are putting all  this effort and are paid nothing. Did you know that until very recently when there was a huge lawsuit reaching judgment, there was no agreement to compensate college athletes at all in the US?
https://www.thedp.com/article/2024/10/penn-ncaa-settlement-player-payment

So this also brings us to the point where ethicality has to be discussed. If we're spending money betting on a sport, doesn't it feel a little wrong to know the athletes earn nothing or close to nothing from this activity? Maybe at least crypto bookies should take the initiative to fund more small sports associations on the local level. 

I can say that I strongly disagree with you on three points:

1. The odds are normal, but the bookmaker's margin is not, because the less popular the competition, the higher the risks + less liquidity.
2. If there are many upsets, then why not just bet on the underdog and get rich.
3. When you bet on unpopular sports, you increase interest in them, when you ignore them, on the contrary. Think about it.
legendary
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December 01, 2024, 04:52:29 PM
#73
Well... many topics in one idea, I think it is the personal approach that matters, specializing in a sport and/or leagueis crucial, regardless of whether it is professional or not.
legendary
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December 01, 2024, 02:34:10 PM
#72
I also avoid betting or even considering non-pro sports or virtual sports. Because I have noticed how random results are, each of such athletes, teams dont show constant results. While participating against someone 10 times, the results will be random. That is noticeable especially in virtual sports. A team that is good on one map or playing with specific team or character, is good only at specific moments, and can show very low performance in next game. For example in counter-strike, if one team is winning with score 16:1, it does not mean that on the next map, this team will be as dominant as now.
legendary
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December 01, 2024, 02:23:13 PM
#71
My suggestion on this topic? Always avoid to bet games with "strange odds". Try to bet live watching a game.  
I could remember few weeks ago I tried to bet on a live odd (match) and I saw the difference, the thing is to bet on live game is either wait for the first half or target the second half with this you can determine what the possible outcome could be. Betting on live game reduces the risk to about 40% but the odds are usually very poor and for someone to have reasonable odds it would take you about 8-15 different matches to achieve at least 5-6 odds.

The real thing that most of people are not aware... fixed matches can be easily disputed by bookmakers = you will not get rewarded !
Even if you know an event like this, you will have very low odds, no market, and the risk to not get your money in case of win.
No, I will just not follow any match like this.
In case there are real "good news" and fixed matche, you are not aware of it... Roll Eyes
legendary
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December 01, 2024, 02:22:28 PM
#70
My biggest wins in gambling came from betting on unpopular clubs which is what you addressed as non-pro sports. In advanced leagues, any small team can defeat a big team just like Barcelona was embarrassed by a small team yesterday. But in those unpopular leagues, such rarely happen and if you carefully select your game, you will win and enjoy the big odd that is always given to the clubs because their stats are not completely know.
What club is that? Not only those like EPL, Bundesliga, Seria A, French Lique 1 and other tops leagues are only the popular leagues. I also do go for other leagues but which are good also in a way that manipulation is not significantly or not existing. The reason some people do not like unpopular leagues is because of how matches can be manipulated there.
sr. member
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December 01, 2024, 01:48:02 PM
#69
I don’t understand why it is our business to make people watch WNBA or other similar unpopular leagues. People watch NBA more because they like it more. Who are we to tell other people what to watch, what to like? Gender equality is a scam.
NBA is a lot more popular because it has existed a lot longer and has accumulated a bigger fanbase already. NBA is now an established league and has people from all over the world watching. It’s not really the same for women who were discouraged from playing sports that were seen as exclusively for men.

I agree that we shouldn’t force it but as a society and as a man, we also have to reevaluate why we don’t want to watch it. Is it because the league isn’t at its best yet or is it because you think of women as inferior? That’s the difference.

Anyway going back to the original point, I do think leagues like WNBA will generate more attention next time but right now if you are the only bettor on the event it’s kind of pointless.

hero member
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December 01, 2024, 01:27:05 PM
#68

The locals know more of those players yet all the international bettors need to know are just the odds given by the bookmakers in order to casts bets on these matches. They don't even need to watch the game yet somehow tend to win their bets which is kind of tempting to do as well. There have been some topics about this and interestingly the casinos are making those matches available to all which is why those guys brags about their strategy that works for local matches.

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December 01, 2024, 12:26:59 PM
#67
I wouldn’t say it’s totally a waste of time, but betting on non-pro sports is less exciting and even less rewarding for most of us here who are regular gamblers. This kind of sports will result more unpredictable outcomes, making us lost the excitement unlike if we are watching professional games/players. The quality of the competition is low and so it becomes less engaging for us, thus losing the public interest because of poor quality of the competition, wherein fans or bettors will no longer feel the excitement anymore.
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