Why I avoid betting on non-pro sports

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Quote from: Woodie on December 28, 2024, 06:23:29 AM

Totally agree with what OP has written!

Something that might be unpopular opinion, these amateur leagues or lower leagues tend to be more prone to match fixing as players will do anything for their financial wellbeing because the sport does get them paid fairly...even if it's not match fixing at the worst players don't keep themselves in their best sharp because of several jobs taken as pointed out.

But on the bright side, lower leagues are not a bad place to catch some upsets Tongue

So true because so many amateurs league have come out of nowhere and they also have betting sponsors and stuff like this and I cannot take those sports seriously and I consider them pure entertainment. Per example in my country we have some amateurs MMA league where Youtube influencers and social media creators along with national media are making fake stories out of nowhere that will eventually end with 2 guys in a cage , mocking each other and the sport. The funny part is that you can place bets on some local bookies here and people are actually gambling on them ( especially the youth ones who are watching a ton of influencers online ). Embarrassed

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Quote from: Woodie on December 28, 2024, 06:23:29 AM

Totally agree with what OP has written!

Something that might be unpopular opinion, these amateur leagues or lower leagues tend to be more prone to match fixing as players will do anything for their financial wellbeing because the sport does get them paid fairly...even if it's not match fixing at the worst players don't keep themselves in their best sharp because of several jobs taken as pointed out.

But on the bright side, lower leagues are not a bad place to catch some upsets Tongue

betting on such leagues is indeed quite risky since the players are not only unprofessional, but they also usually do other jobs besides playing in the league. I remember there was a soccer player in my city, his job besides playing soccer was selling paintings, because the salary he got was so little and there was no guarantee of life. that's just one case, there are many athletes who feel like that. so just imagine if someone bets on a league with the quality of athletes like this, there is no guarantee that there is no cheating or other things that make the game unfair.

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When it comes to sports betting, the focus is much on information sharing and the ability of the players. When we think of spending in a professional league, we'll get information regarding the league played earlier, the performance of the players, how things went relative to the venue, and more precise information. This helps in predicting the winner of the match. The same isn't possible with an unpopular league where we need to depend much on the luck, as we don't know much about the players. However, these days data is being saved even for small leagues. With unpopular leagues fixing and leakage of insider information being common, if that's available, one can try with it. If not, the right choice is to go with a popular league and sport.

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Quote from: Bushdark on December 26, 2024, 05:29:34 PM

I think you are right dude! There are some sports that are not so popular and to gather information about them can be very time wasting, compared to popular sports like football, Basketball, Base ball and others that wouldn't take a long time for one to gather information about the sport. Less popular sports can be easily to manipulate in their game predictions and during the market because most of the rules are not so popular to the public, and there is no way we can get to know about all the rulrs and regulations.

Not only is it time wasting, it is also exhausting fi finding information about these sports and in some cases you may actually end up not getting enough Information to help you placed a very good bet from which you can have some edge and winning advantages. This actually does make it easy to manipulate such games and you have to be so dependent on luck to win such games, maybe at that point in time you are betting according to the manipulation on the game and that has to be so.e extreme luck.

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Quote from: freedomgo on December 28, 2024, 07:54:44 AM

Quote from: Woodie on December 28, 2024, 06:23:29 AM

Something that might be unpopular opinion, these amateur leagues or lower leagues tend to be more prone to match fixing as players will do anything for their financial wellbeing because the sport does get them paid fairly...even if it's not match fixing at the worst players don't keep themselves in their best sharp because of several jobs taken as pointed out.

For gamblers who know the league well and suspect game-fixing, it could actually work in their favor. Recognizing patterns in these situations gives them an edge, and when a game is rigged, it’s often the underdog or an unpopular team that ends up winning. Most casual bettors fall into the trap of betting on the favorite, while sharps capitalize on this by betting the other way, profiting from the mistake of the majority.

If you want to take advantage of the situation, you are just looking for the profitability on the situation. So yes, if you feel the pattern, then try betting on it and see what happens. After all, at the end of the day you are aiming for profits whether it is your favorite team or not. So it is not a must that you bet on your favorite sports or athletes, so long you can profit from the bet, you can always bet on
However, if you are talking about match fixing, you can never be sure about the source. If you want to try, you can bet small especially if you are not very confident with such bet.

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Quote from: Fiatless on December 28, 2024, 08:18:18 AM

Quote from: freedomgo on December 28, 2024, 07:54:44 AM

For gamblers who know the league well and suspect game-fixing, it could actually work in their favor. Recognizing patterns in these situations gives them an edge, and when a game is rigged, it’s often the underdog or an unpopular team that ends up winning. Most casual bettors fall into the trap of betting on the favorite, while sharps capitalize on this by betting the other way, profiting from the mistake of the majority.

Once some of these players are offered a sizeable amount, some of them who are corrupt will gladly accept it and rig the game. It's unethical to collect bribe to fix matches and low salary shouldn't be an excuse. It is better to leave the sports and look for another source of living than to engage in criminal actions.

Anything illegal always comes with consequences, and no excuses will save them from accountability. Defrauding people, fans, and bettors cannot be justified, and it certainly won’t pardon their actions.

Quote from: Fiatless on December 28, 2024, 08:18:18 AM

Except you are an insider, it is usually very difficult to have pre knowledge about a rigged match. Some of these match fixers usually keep thier game secret to avoid sanctions. I don't know if getting information about a fixed match and betting on it is a criminal offense.

I believe if you’re an insider, you can probably ensure a win 99% of the time, but that’s an exception.

For the other 99% of bettors who don’t have insider knowledge, but if we can recognize patterns and use them to our advantage, we might still tilt the odds in our favor.

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Quote from: freedomgo on December 28, 2024, 07:54:44 AM

Quote from: Woodie on December 28, 2024, 06:23:29 AM

Something that might be unpopular opinion, these amateur leagues or lower leagues tend to be more prone to match fixing as players will do anything for their financial wellbeing because the sport does get them paid fairly...even if it's not match fixing at the worst players don't keep themselves in their best sharp because of several jobs taken as pointed out.

For gamblers who know the league well and suspect game-fixing, it could actually work in their favor. Recognizing patterns in these situations gives them an edge, and when a game is rigged, it’s often the underdog or an unpopular team that ends up winning. Most casual bettors fall into the trap of betting on the favorite, while sharps capitalize on this by betting the other way, profiting from the mistake of the majority.

Once some of these players are offered a sizeable amount, some of them who are corrupt will gladly accept it and rig the game. It's unethical to collect bribe to fix matches and low salary shouldn't be an excuse. It is better to leave the sports and look for another source of living than to engage in criminal actions.

Except you are an insider, it is usually very difficult to have pre knowledge about a rigged match. Some of these match fixers usually keep thier game secret to avoid sanctions. I don't know if getting information about a fixed match and betting on it is a criminal offense.

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Quote from: Woodie on December 28, 2024, 06:23:29 AM

Something that might be unpopular opinion, these amateur leagues or lower leagues tend to be more prone to match fixing as players will do anything for their financial wellbeing because the sport does get them paid fairly...even if it's not match fixing at the worst players don't keep themselves in their best sharp because of several jobs taken as pointed out.

For gamblers who know the league well and suspect game-fixing, it could actually work in their favor. Recognizing patterns in these situations gives them an edge, and when a game is rigged, it’s often the underdog or an unpopular team that ends up winning. Most casual bettors fall into the trap of betting on the favorite, while sharps capitalize on this by betting the other way, profiting from the mistake of the majority.

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Quote from: Woodie on December 28, 2024, 06:23:29 AM

Totally agree with what OP has written!

Something that might be unpopular opinion, these amateur leagues or lower leagues tend to be more prone to match fixing as players will do anything for their financial wellbeing because the sport does get them paid fairly...even if it's not match fixing at the worst players don't keep themselves in their best sharp because of several jobs taken as pointed out.

But on the bright side, lower leagues are not a bad place to catch some upsets Tongue

Yes, except for the upsets where you can see ridiculous scorelines, an underated team or player coming to make a ridicule of a top team or player. But where it concerns gambling, it's very risky to bet on these games because you can't confidently analyze their performances. Money is a huge motivating factor when it comes to sports, people who are well paid will always want to give their very best to remain relevant because they understand that their sport is very competitive. But where renumeration is very low, the athletes won't put in their best because they're not 100% focused on their sport and it'll be quite easy to entice them for match fixing.

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Totally agree with what OP has written!

Something that might be unpopular opinion, these amateur leagues or lower leagues tend to be more prone to match fixing as players will do anything for their financial wellbeing because the sport does get them paid fairly...even if it's not match fixing at the worst players don't keep themselves in their best sharp because of several jobs taken as pointed out.

But on the bright side, lower leagues are not a bad place to catch some upsets Tongue

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Quote from: DubemIfedigbo001 on December 28, 2024, 05:41:32 AM

Quote from: Davidvictorson on November 30, 2024, 05:15:27 PM

Impressive. I am guessing this is prompted by on of those threads today about unpopular sports to bet on. You marshalled out a lot of points and when you wrote about the little or no pay for those involved in sports, I had to connect the dots to why we see an increase in Match fixing in some unpopular sports. With regards to ethicality, I want to agree that if sports bookies sponsor or even advertise in these unpopular sports, their odds would increase and the players over time would receive better renumeration.

Exactly, when one's efforts are unappreciated or greatly underappreciated, these people tend to do almost everything in their power to make a living from what they do, most times more through illegal activities. I really think that if sportsbooks can invest little of their gains in these local teams, they would be honest in their activities and hey, they really have to be fast since when matches are fixed, they pay heavy compensation to the match fixers and everyone who benefitted from the match being fixed which is always a huge loss for them.

Then I would agree that these fixed matches ruin the credibility of sports. This should not be done in the first place; they are not just making the players a fool but also the people watching. They also limit the ability of the players to show and perform well, especially when they already know who's going to win.
Honestly, there is neither excitement created by this kind of sports game nor trusting the bookmaker. I'd rather spend time watching real and fair games and bet there. Because even if I lose but at least I am satisfied with the results and the performance of the players.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on November 30, 2024, 05:15:27 PM

Impressive. I am guessing this is prompted by on of those threads today about unpopular sports to bet on. You marshalled out a lot of points and when you wrote about the little or no pay for those involved in sports, I had to connect the dots to why we see an increase in Match fixing in some unpopular sports. With regards to ethicality, I want to agree that if sports bookies sponsor or even advertise in these unpopular sports, their odds would increase and the players over time would receive better renumeration.

Exactly, when one's efforts are unappreciated or greatly underappreciated, these people tend to do almost everything in their power to make a living from what they do, most times more through illegal activities. I really think that if sportsbooks can invest little of their gains in these local teams, they would be honest in their activities and hey, they really have to be fast since when matches are fixed, they pay heavy compensation to the match fixers and everyone who benefitted from the match being fixed which is always a huge loss for them.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on December 27, 2024, 10:52:19 PM

Quote from: Taskford on December 26, 2024, 05:11:56 PM

What issue bother me for thinking about betting on unpopular or non pro sports is the what we called fix matches incident. If that situation happen in pro sports then how much more in non pro category? For sure that incident is rampant in that area since provably that there's less official are regulating them and their events didn't reach to mainstream that's why they can do those illegal things and show up a result in favor with them.

Although this is just pure speculation but this incident might really happen since I've witness fix matching incident from the past on non pro sports and possibly it might continue to happen nowadays since we can't deny that there are some entities will do everything just to win on their placed bets.

Yes, there are many incidents or problems like this in unpopular sports matches and match fixing, even like fixing cards for players, all of which are inseparable from the involvement of several people related to betting, minor leagues will always be the main place for all of this to happen until now.
Those who follow the development of all football events that have existed since the past until now must understand about cases like this, unfortunately some people don't care about it as if they are blind to all the events and they only care about whatever is priority such as thinking about the most important thing is to win the bet.

You both are correct because it's very hard to predicts or determined the two non pro league, there games/match are always being manipulated all time because of their unprofessionalism games, sometimes even the professional team do carry out fixed match and so, the non professional won't be exempted because they are even more worst and easily to be rigged than professional clubs.
It's always important to stick within the known team or club because they are more open to judge results or goals than non-pro club, so while gambling I hardly include them in my betting list because they can easily compromised bet slips.

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Quote from: Taskford on December 26, 2024, 05:11:56 PM

What issue bother me for thinking about betting on unpopular or non pro sports is the what we called fix matches incident. If that situation happen in pro sports then how much more in non pro category? For sure that incident is rampant in that area since provably that there's less official are regulating them and their events didn't reach to mainstream that's why they can do those illegal things and show up a result in favor with them.

Although this is just pure speculation but this incident might really happen since I've witness fix matching incident from the past on non pro sports and possibly it might continue to happen nowadays since we can't deny that there are some entities will do everything just to win on their placed bets.

Yes, there are many incidents or problems like this in unpopular sports matches and match fixing, even like fixing cards for players, all of which are inseparable from the involvement of several people related to betting, minor leagues will always be the main place for all of this to happen until now.
Those who follow the development of all football events that have existed since the past until now must understand about cases like this, unfortunately some people don't care about it as if they are blind to all the events and they only care about whatever is priority such as thinking about the most important thing is to win the bet.

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Quote from: Bushdark on December 26, 2024, 05:29:34 PM

I think you are right dude! There are some sports that are not so popular and to gather information about them can be very time wasting, compared to popular sports like football, Basketball, Base ball and others that wouldn't take a long time for one to gather information about the sport. Less popular sports can be easily to manipulate in their game predictions and during the market because most of the rules are not so popular to the public, and there is no way we can get to know about all the rulrs and regulations.

This reminded me that a long time ago my wife saw an advertisement on Facebook for a supposed referee who had the contacts of referees and that everything was rigged, that if they deposited a certain amount of money they could safely bet on football matches in a League in Russia, and that they were guaranteed profits and sent the bets and the numbers of what they won, and that they only had to make the deposit.

I told her beforehand that it was a scam, but I still had doubts that at that level there is clear manipulation or the fact that they rig football games in leagues all over the world, that is why in FIFA and at all levels there is tremendous corruption.

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Quote from: peter0425 on December 26, 2024, 05:08:12 PM

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It makes no sense to study sports that are not professional, amateur style , because there are many factors that influence, we do not know the players well, we do not know how their behavior is in the championships very well, it is a risk to trust because the skills and talents of those who play are unexpected , that plus what they look for from reinforcements that we do not know, in the case of Soccer these things happen.

Non-pro sports are probably a lot more difficult to gather information from and since there are significantly less audience, there’s also not much viewing events and/or matches in accessible venues or even streaming sites which makes it a lot difficult to catch up to the matches and know what’s going on but I also believe that if you follow a sport closely you can gather all the information you need.

I am sure you are able to find a community that shares the same interest and could help you get all the facts needed to make a bet.

I think you are right dude! There are some sports that are not so popular and to gather information about them can be very time wasting, compared to popular sports like football, Basketball, Base ball and others that wouldn't take a long time for one to gather information about the sport. Less popular sports can be easily to manipulate in their game predictions and during the market because most of the rules are not so popular to the public, and there is no way we can get to know about all the rulrs and regulations.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on December 26, 2024, 04:37:40 PM

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Each one of us does have that preference when it comes to selection and choices on which there will really be those times or moments that you will really be that skeptical on doing something just because you do believe that you will be having that disadvantage on which this is indeed true. Stick on where your knowledge fits in and same goes into the interest because if you do find yourself having forcing into something then this isnt really that giving some good result because it will turned out to be that a desperation for you. So its better that you should be sticking on where you do find yourself fits out.

This is what best suits what we are looking for. If we like an activity, or bet on a sport and it is professional because we know more, then we should do it. It makes no sense to study sports that are not professional, amateur style , because there are many factors that influence, we do not know the players well, we do not know how their behavior is in the championships very well, it is a risk to trust because the skills and talents of those who play are unexpected , that plus what they look for from reinforcements that we do not know, in the case of Soccer these things happen.

What issue bother me for thinking about betting on unpopular or non pro sports is the what we called fix matches incident. If that situation happen in pro sports then how much more in non pro category? For sure that incident is rampant in that area since provably that there's less official are regulating them and their events didn't reach to mainstream that's why they can do those illegal things and show up a result in favor with them.

Although this is just pure speculation but this incident might really happen since I've witness fix matching incident from the past on non pro sports and possibly it might continue to happen nowadays since we can't deny that there are some entities will do everything just to win on their placed bets.

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Quote from: LUCKMCFLY on December 26, 2024, 04:37:40 PM

It makes no sense to study sports that are not professional, amateur style , because there are many factors that influence, we do not know the players well, we do not know how their behavior is in the championships very well, it is a risk to trust because the skills and talents of those who play are unexpected , that plus what they look for from reinforcements that we do not know, in the case of Soccer these things happen.

Non-pro sports are probably a lot more difficult to gather information from and since there are significantly less audience, there’s also not much viewing events and/or matches in accessible venues or even streaming sites which makes it a lot difficult to catch up to the matches and know what’s going on but I also believe that if you follow a sport closely you can gather all the information you need.

I am sure you are able to find a community that shares the same interest and could help you get all the facts needed to make a bet.

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Quote from: stomachgrowls on December 21, 2024, 08:49:33 PM

Each one of us does have that preference when it comes to selection and choices on which there will really be those times or moments that you will really be that skeptical on doing something just because you do believe that you will be having that disadvantage on which this is indeed true. Stick on where your knowledge fits in and same goes into the interest because if you do find yourself having forcing into something then this isnt really that giving some good result because it will turned out to be that a desperation for you. So its better that you should be sticking on where you do find yourself fits out.

This is what best suits what we are looking for. If we like an activity, or bet on a sport and it is professional because we know more, then we should do it. It makes no sense to study sports that are not professional, amateur style , because there are many factors that influence, we do not know the players well, we do not know how their behavior is in the championships very well, it is a risk to trust because the skills and talents of those who play are unexpected , that plus what they look for from reinforcements that we do not know, in the case of Soccer these things happen.

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Quote from: stadus on December 21, 2024, 09:44:40 PM

Quote from: tread93 on December 16, 2024, 12:48:31 AM

Honstly i've avoided betting on sports in general simply because there are sooooo many factors outside of my control and I would rather take my chances betting in some other place on something else. Even though i've often thought about placing some bets in these types of favorable match ups I find myself rather wanting to invest in some other crypto investment of some sort.

You’re only in control if you’re the one fighting or playing, but when it’s a team game, that control is out of your hands. However, since nost of us are just bettors, we’re here for the thrill, and that includes the unpredictability of the game. Honestly, you don’t need to win all your bets (since that’s impossible), but winning most of them should already make you a satisfied bettor, even if you’re not ready to call yourself successful yet.

Agreed you dont need to have won or keep winning all of your bets every single time but as long as you're shooting your shots and taking chances if you win most of your bets i would consider you a successful gambler.

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