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Im muslim and there is a lot hadist or verse that discussed about gambling but in my personal view why gambling is haram its because simply it zero sum game meaning "Zero-sum game is a mathematical representation in game theory and economic theory of a situation that involves two sides, where the result is an advantage for one side and an equivalent loss for the other." and people like to gamble to do a quick rich scheme or something like that.

Tho the bible also said "The Bible does not explicitly prohibit gambling. However, it does warn against the love of money and dishonest gain. The Bible also encourages hard work and contentment" according to google.
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When we talk about religion we cannot dine the forbidden things like alcohol, prostitution and many other things in this topic we will discuss why do gambling is forbidden (Haram, interdit) .
So can you tell me why is it forbidden in your religion?
And for the non religious persons what you think ?
Before discussing why religion forbids gambling as well as other things like you have mentioned we must know which is better for our physical mental and social life. Gambling as well as other things that you have mentioned is not good for our physical, mental, and social life so, all of these are forbidden in many religions.
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When we talk about religion we cannot dine the forbidden things like alcohol, prostitution and many other things in this topic we will discuss why do gambling is forbidden (Haram, interdit) .
So can you tell me why is it forbidden in your religion?
And for the non religious persons what you think ?
It's no longer surprising in view of the fact that there are many religious individuals in the world, as well as the various rules that prohibit us from doing certain things. Instead of debating any theological issue, what matters is that we respect one another and are able to interact peacefully. To respond to your question, I think that other religions have discouraged certain forms of gambling for moral, ethical, and social grounds. Since I am a Catholic, those employed in Catholic ministries are teaching us the importance of accountability, justice, and avoiding harm to oneself or others. For me, I often see gambling as a way to lure us into promoting greed and causing social issues. Although I did not remember that the Bible talks about gambling, it is one of the reasons why people become greedy. I admit that I also gamble, but when there is an occasion, like meeting with friends, we hang out with them, but we rarely do that because sometimes we find it boring and we are just wasting money on it. 
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Religion usually prohibits things that have a bigger bad side or loss. For example, gambling can have a bad impact if you are addicted to it, which can harm many people. Then prostitution has detrimental sides such as the potential for contracting dangerous diseases.
However, from a political perspective, of course these two things can be profitable for the country because they can be taxed, which is why not a few countries legalize gambling and prostitution simply to be able to take these profits as state tax income.
For people who are not religious, I don't think there is a problem, they can do whatever they want as long as it doesn't conflict with the rules that apply where they live.
I believe that something can not destroy ones career unless the person give it a chance, so betting can't destroy ones life if the gambler doesn't give it chance. Given gamble a chance to destroy careers is only when guy are addicted to it, and additions starts gradually gradually, at the time you know you are getting addicted to gamble you must make an amend so you won't lose everything you have. I have heard stories were gamblers says they sold their houses, cars and other furnitures and use the money to gamble thinking they will win but they ended up losing everything that they have worked for. So it's better to gamble with what you can afford to lose.
Few reasons why many religions doesn't like gamble is because they don't want people to get addicted and they know if one is addicted the person might sell his/her properties to gamble. But still there are people in those religions that still gambles.
saying gambling can't ruin lives unless one permits it is technically feasible, but why play with fire? My experience with gambling is that it promises mountains but often leaves you in holes. My friend, addiction is the ultimate shape-shifter. It bursts in as "harmless fun." You soon find yourself selling dreams on eBay to fund nightmares in a love-hate relationship with Lady Luck.

That faiths are gambling buzzkills? Their idea is right. They want to prevent the flock from despairing, not just stop gambling. Others in the pews take the risk. We're all drawn to danger, but don't glorify it. In gambling, the only safe wager is your resolve and insight to know the odds are never in your favor. Bet on anything else? You'll probably lose that bet. Remember that what you can't lose is your values, duties, and sanity
Results and outcomes in life would really be just that depending or basing up into those decisions that you had made out on which if you are someone whose really that letting those kind of tolerance
when it comes to gambling and make yourself that getting addicted to it, then expect that you would really be able to experience the worst.The wrong thing on here is that people wont really be making out
those realizations until they would really be able to experience for themselves on which it would really be better that you should have done it earlier so that you would really be able to avoid.
We do know that there are really religions on which it would really be that making you that prohibit on doing gambling but since not everyone do follow those teachings or scriptures then there are
ones who would really be continuing to play.

This would really be that a personal kind of choice on which whether you wouldnt really be tending to go against with those religious or divine things or wouldnt really be minding
as long you would really be able to do on what you do have in mind. It would really be just that depending into your own preference and decisions in life on which
its impossible that you wont really be wary about these things along the way.
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Gambling can be religiously forbidden or banned in some areas due to the negative insightments that it could ruin ones life or tough lessions has been thought in the society where it has caused either financial crisis or disputes amongst others.
So preventing it from a continues occurances is getting the game to an end of banned. And in terms of religions, that becomes unethical to their religious beliefs.

Of course you are correct.Religion,be it any of the major religions,like Christian,Islam or Jewish forbid gambling for the simple reason that they have seen before that it mostly bring more damage than benefit and this is explained pretty well in all of their holy books and of course it has another reason which shows that if someone starts to gamble they risk of loving gambling more than the religion and it changes for the bad the way of life of a person.

These are just what religions think while I think that the human being is born free and no one has the right to put a human in robbery which is exactly what all these religions do,they limit your way of life,some harder,some not so hard but in the end they all limit your life style to some extent.
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Because they see gambling isn't preaching anything besides chasing money and material things, religion wants the ethereal, the spirit and the virtue and gambling is the complete opposite of that, gambling tolerates debauchery and greed which shouldn't be the thing that most religion think should be the thing that we as humans pursuing and that we all should seek personal enlightenment and not temporary pleasures. Another reason that I can think of why it's forbidden is because when a gambling addict becomes desperate for money to spend on their habit, they'll tend to try their hands on stealing from people which only leads the much worse paths, they see gambling like how many of us see meth, cocaine, heroin and other illegal substances, they see it as a bane.
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Gambling can be religiously forbidden or banned in some areas due to the negative insightments that it could ruin ones life or tough lessions has been thought in the society where it has caused either financial crisis or disputes amongst others.
So preventing it from a continues occurances is getting the game to an end of banned. And in terms of religions, that becomes unethical to their religious beliefs.
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Religion usually prohibits things that have a bigger bad side or loss. For example, gambling can have a bad impact if you are addicted to it, which can harm many people. Then prostitution has detrimental sides such as the potential for contracting dangerous diseases.
However, from a political perspective, of course these two things can be profitable for the country because they can be taxed, which is why not a few countries legalize gambling and prostitution simply to be able to take these profits as state tax income.
For people who are not religious, I don't think there is a problem, they can do whatever they want as long as it doesn't conflict with the rules that apply where they live.
I believe that something can not destroy ones career unless the person give it a chance, so betting can't destroy ones life if the gambler doesn't give it chance. Given gamble a chance to destroy careers is only when guy are addicted to it, and additions starts gradually gradually, at the time you know you are getting addicted to gamble you must make an amend so you won't lose everything you have. I have heard stories were gamblers says they sold their houses, cars and other furnitures and use the money to gamble thinking they will win but they ended up losing everything that they have worked for. So it's better to gamble with what you can afford to lose.
Few reasons why many religions doesn't like gamble is because they don't want people to get addicted and they know if one is addicted the person might sell his/her properties to gamble. But still there are people in those religions that still gambles.
saying gambling can't ruin lives unless one permits it is technically feasible, but why play with fire? My experience with gambling is that it promises mountains but often leaves you in holes. My friend, addiction is the ultimate shape-shifter. It bursts in as "harmless fun." You soon find yourself selling dreams on eBay to fund nightmares in a love-hate relationship with Lady Luck.

That faiths are gambling buzzkills? Their idea is right. They want to prevent the flock from despairing, not just stop gambling. Others in the pews take the risk. We're all drawn to danger, but don't glorify it. In gambling, the only safe wager is your resolve and insight to know the odds are never in your favor. Bet on anything else? You'll probably lose that bet. Remember that what you can't lose is your values, duties, and sanity
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In my own religious teachings it is not explicitly stated why gambling is haram, but in the holy book it is stated that all activities to get money instantly, activities that bring greed and betray God, worldly actions that focus on fleshly pleasures, and wasting money, are things that are haram and that description are very suitable for gambling, and therefore gambling is prohibited in my religion. However, despite this, there are still people who continue to gamble, because they think that the sin of gambling is not much greater than the sins that we intentionally/unintentionally commit, so they think that it is not a problem.

I'm sorry, but the question was "Why?" So, why do you think gambling is prohibited by your religion and by so many others? I personally think that one of the reasons can be diversion of attention from church, mosque or whatever that place is where religious people should go and bring their money there. The "holy books" want to prevent people from going to a casino instead of those "holy places".
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February 26, 2024, 03:51:14 PM
Religion usually prohibits things that have a bigger bad side or loss. For example, gambling can have a bad impact if you are addicted to it, which can harm many people. Then prostitution has detrimental sides such as the potential for contracting dangerous diseases.
However, from a political perspective, of course these two things can be profitable for the country because they can be taxed, which is why not a few countries legalize gambling and prostitution simply to be able to take these profits as state tax income.
For people who are not religious, I don't think there is a problem, they can do whatever they want as long as it doesn't conflict with the rules that apply where they live.
I believe that something can not destroy ones career unless the person give it a chance, so betting can't destroy ones life if the gambler doesn't give it chance. Given gamble a chance to destroy careers is only when guy are addicted to it, and additions starts gradually gradually, at the time you know you are getting addicted to gamble you must make an amend so you won't lose everything you have. I have heard stories were gamblers says they sold their houses, cars and other furnitures and use the money to gamble thinking they will win but they ended up losing everything that they have worked for. So it's better to gamble with what you can afford to lose.
Few reasons why many religions doesn't like gamble is because they don't want people to get addicted and they know if one is addicted the person might sell his/her properties to gamble. But still there are people in those religions that still gambles.
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February 26, 2024, 03:42:10 PM
Religion usually prohibits things that have a bigger bad side or loss. For example, gambling can have a bad impact if you are addicted to it, which can harm many people. Then prostitution has detrimental sides such as the potential for contracting dangerous diseases.
However, from a political perspective, of course these two things can be profitable for the country because they can be taxed, which is why not a few countries legalize gambling and prostitution simply to be able to take these profits as state tax income.
For people who are not religious, I don't think there is a problem, they can do whatever they want as long as it doesn't conflict with the rules that apply where they live.

I agree with your opinion. The rationale behind this prohibition includes the potential for addiction, financial ruin, and the exploitation of vulnerable individuals. Gambling is considered haram (forbidden) in Islam. The primary source of this prohibition comes from the Quran, which states in Surah Al-Baqarah (2:219): “They ask you concerning wine and gambling. Say: ‘In them is a great sin, and some profit, for men; but the sin is greater than the profit”. Additionally, hadiths (sayings and actions of the Prophet Muhammad) also strongly condemn gambling.

While there is no universal Christian stance on gambling, many denominations and individual churches view it negatively. Some Christians argue that gambling goes against the teachings of Jesus, who advocated for care and responsibility towards one’s neighbours. Moreover, they believe that gambling encourages greed, dishonesty and covetousness, which are considered sins in Christian doctrine. However, the Catholic Church, for example, does not condemn gambling outright but teaches that it should not be engaged to the point of harming oneself or others.
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Religion usually prohibits things that have a bigger bad side or loss. For example, gambling can have a bad impact if you are addicted to it, which can harm many people. Then prostitution has detrimental sides such as the potential for contracting dangerous diseases.
However, from a political perspective, of course these two things can be profitable for the country because they can be taxed, which is why not a few countries legalize gambling and prostitution simply to be able to take these profits as state tax income.
For people who are not religious, I don't think there is a problem, they can do whatever they want as long as it doesn't conflict with the rules that apply where they live.
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February 26, 2024, 06:55:22 AM
Even though it's against religious teachings, I see a lot of people breaking the rules. I know this goes against my religion because it has more bad effects than good ones. Without realizing it, those who make gambling their main income will encourage a culture of laziness besides fostering seeds of dishonesty, and worst of all, leading to other sinful acts.

I hope all of you can put an end to this gambling habit. I hope you can stop before it's too late and repent when you're satisfied with the world of gambling.
To those rule breakers then they would really be having those kind of reasoning that they are just humans on which they do able to commit out those mistakes and having those thoughts that they would be forgiven on the time that they would be asking for some forgiveness. It is foolish to have this kind of reasoning in mind on which we do know that you are really just that liking to play and its just an excuse for you to play out and dont mind whether you are already violating your religion rules or not. We do know and wary that majority of religions does have that kind of restrictions and prohibitions about gambling on which they do always see its negative side rather than into its positive and there's nothing we can do about it but to follow.
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February 26, 2024, 05:32:54 AM
In my own religious teachings it is not explicitly stated why gambling is haram, but in the holy book it is stated that all activities to get money instantly, activities that bring greed and betray God, worldly actions that focus on fleshly pleasures, and wasting money, are things that are haram and that description are very suitable for gambling, and therefore gambling is prohibited in my religion. However, despite this, there are still people who continue to gamble, because they think that the sin of gambling is not much greater than the sins that we intentionally/unintentionally commit, so they think that it is not a problem.
Hahaha...Sin is sin, we should only be pleading for mercy since we are not perfect as human beings, not finding ways to commit it and then looking away as if nothing has happened. The worldly things are truly enjoyable, that's why we have different interpretations of things of religion as religions often tie our hands. But truly, if we must be faithful to our religion, we should prohibit everything it tells us not to do and do those things it asks us to do only. Now about gambling, as a Christian, I often hear that it is prohibited in the Bible but I have yet to see that Bible verse that prohibits it in a plain term, and everyone I challenged on this thread and similar ones to furnish me with the Bible verses have not done that since last year. I really want to learn and admit some facts but without giving me the plain texts in the Bible that preaches against it emphatically. I think I will still not be so strict about it.

I browsed the internet as a Christian, look what I found among many others:

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You cannot serve both God and money” (Matt. 6:24). Because gambling can put a person into a position of being mastered by addiction and debts, this principle needs to be front and center for any Christian considering gambling.
That quote is according to renew.org. Just like other people who will not plainly give the texts that will emphatically speak against it, the same can be derived from the quote as well. The main points I see here are Money and Addiction. Just like in alcohol (addiction) and trading/investment (money, and for Muslim (interest as haram)). The money haram (interest) in this regard was on for Muslims for so long until banks and brokers started Islamic accounts and operations (swap/interest-free accounts), but in practice, this still does not stop them from investing and gaining money, or doing businesses to gain more money, so I am confused here.

The same thing is applicable to Christians. Don't we do business to gain money or engaged in other risky activities to gain money? These facts challenge the belief in my opinion. But, it's the addiction I do not like. Now, about the addiction itself, what if I am not addicted to gambling, will I still be guilty of it if I gambled?
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Even though it's against religious teachings, I see a lot of people breaking the rules. I know this goes against my religion because it has more bad effects than good ones. Without realizing it, those who make gambling their main income will encourage a culture of laziness besides fostering seeds of dishonesty, and worst of all, leading to other sinful acts.

I hope all of you can put an end to this gambling habit. I hope you can stop before it's too late and repent when you're satisfied with the world of gambling.
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February 26, 2024, 03:05:37 AM
In my own religious teachings it is not explicitly stated why gambling is haram, but in the holy book it is stated that all activities to get money instantly, activities that bring greed and betray God, worldly actions that focus on fleshly pleasures, and wasting money, are things that are haram and that description are very suitable for gambling, and therefore gambling is prohibited in my religion. However, despite this, there are still people who continue to gamble, because they think that the sin of gambling is not much greater than the sins that we intentionally/unintentionally commit, so they think that it is not a problem.
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February 26, 2024, 02:34:50 AM
Religion, whether Christianity or Islam, guides people away from gambling. It's about protecting the soul and society against addiction, not denying fun. They deeply grasp how gaming may entangle people, taking them away from their duties, families, and life purpose

Simply said, gambling equals addiction = social deterioration. This is a health battle, not amusement. As for "moderation" in gambling, be honest. The architecture of gambling exploits human vulnerability, making "just a bit" lead to "just a bit more." Temptation and loss of money, time, relationships, and morality are cyclical. Religion offers many ways to enjoy and satisfy one's life without having to gamble with one's destiny. Choose between momentary thrills and permanent peace. Choose wisely
Religion tells what is prohibit and what is allow with clear. But humans make many reasons to allowing what is prohibit so that makes confuse for the other people. But if they have a good understanding about gambling and they don't want to breaks their religion, they will not do something that is clear prohibit in their religion. But other people will still gambling even they know that is prohibit.

Well, we can say they are wrong because that will become personal decision and we can only let them choose what they want to do. Gambling and drunk is prohibit in some religions, but some people still do that although many people already advise them to stay away. People can force them to quit gambling and drunk if they don't realize by themselves. We can only advise and the rest will be up to them. They will get the outcomes for what they do if they still gambling
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February 25, 2024, 10:37:29 AM
Main looking at the end in gamble it can cause people to become addicted to it so this is why some religion such like the Christianity religions dislikes gamble. Gamble shouldn't be blamed for the actions of gamblers when they addicts why it wasn't the cause of gamble but their selfishness made got them addicted to gambe. Addiction are not among the believers mind that why many religions doesn't accept gambling.
Playing gambling can make people become addicted which make religion such as Christianity and Islam dislikes and prohibits gambling. Those religions knows how gambling can seduce people to get deeper to the gambling and forget about everything they must do in their daily life. That is not part of entertainment because we use gambling for fun. But for people who religious person will not playing gambling because they know that is prohibits in their religion. They will use other things to have fun and will stay away from gambling because they do not want to close to the sin.

While other people think that playing gambling is okay as long as they don't involve too deep in gambling. Unfortunately, not many people can do that because the temptation of gambling is very strong. They will getting addiction and become selfish while they will go deeper in gambling.
Religion, whether Christianity or Islam, guides people away from gambling. It's about protecting the soul and society against addiction, not denying fun. They deeply grasp how gaming may entangle people, taking them away from their duties, families, and life purpose

Simply said, gambling equals addiction = social deterioration. This is a health battle, not amusement. As for "moderation" in gambling, be honest. The architecture of gambling exploits human vulnerability, making "just a bit" lead to "just a bit more." Temptation and loss of money, time, relationships, and morality are cyclical. Religion offers many ways to enjoy and satisfy one's life without having to gamble with one's destiny. Choose between momentary thrills and permanent peace. Choose wisely

I am glad you mention most of the Islam and Christian denominations do not actually seek to deprive people from their sources of fun and amusement, it is about a some kind of sources of amusement do to the soul and body of the people who end up getting hooked up to it. For example, in the case of Christiany, there are churches or branches which do not allow their members to drink any kind of alcohol, except red wine, while there are others which allow people to drink whatever they want, as long as it is done in moderation and responsability. I believe that is the most reasonable approach also when comes to engaging with casinos; recognize when one is already losing control of one's wager and withdraw from the floor to avoid falling into making mistakes.

On the other hand, since I am not a Muslin and I don't know much about the Islamic tradition I cannot talk much about who strict gambling control in the muslin majority countries, like Saudi Arabia or Pakistan, Since I have met people who practice Islam here in the forum who both do not gamble and others who do. Which is a little bit confusing to me, as an outsider.
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February 25, 2024, 10:01:27 AM
Main looking at the end in gamble it can cause people to become addicted to it so this is why some religion such like the Christianity religions dislikes gamble. Gamble shouldn't be blamed for the actions of gamblers when they addicts why it wasn't the cause of gamble but their selfishness made got them addicted to gambe. Addiction are not among the believers mind that why many religions doesn't accept gambling.
Playing gambling can make people become addicted which make religion such as Christianity and Islam dislikes and prohibits gambling. Those religions knows how gambling can seduce people to get deeper to the gambling and forget about everything they must do in their daily life. That is not part of entertainment because we use gambling for fun. But for people who religious person will not playing gambling because they know that is prohibits in their religion. They will use other things to have fun and will stay away from gambling because they do not want to close to the sin.

While other people think that playing gambling is okay as long as they don't involve too deep in gambling. Unfortunately, not many people can do that because the temptation of gambling is very strong. They will getting addiction and become selfish while they will go deeper in gambling.
Religion, whether Christianity or Islam, guides people away from gambling. It's about protecting the soul and society against addiction, not denying fun. They deeply grasp how gaming may entangle people, taking them away from their duties, families, and life purpose

Simply said, gambling equals addiction = social deterioration. This is a health battle, not amusement. As for "moderation" in gambling, be honest. The architecture of gambling exploits human vulnerability, making "just a bit" lead to "just a bit more." Temptation and loss of money, time, relationships, and morality are cyclical. Religion offers many ways to enjoy and satisfy one's life without having to gamble with one's destiny. Choose between momentary thrills and permanent peace. Choose wisely
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February 25, 2024, 08:38:30 AM
Different religions hold differing attitudes on gambling, with some outright prohibiting it due to the risk of addiction and harm. In addition to Christianity and Islam, Buddhism and Hinduism are among the religions that consider gambling to be dangerous. These faiths believe that gambling causes pain and instils greed in people.
People has been used gambling for their own purpose which make them are in trouble. The religions already knows that humans are weak and can't holds their emotions well, even if they already master a good self control. There will be a chance for us to lose that self-control and make us deeper in gambling without have a chance to quit gambling easily. But some people can hold their emotions better than the other people and they can use gambling with right. Playing gambling or not is every people decision and they already know that their religion already prohibit gambling. It's their responsibility to their religion and their GOD.
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