Why in some religion gambling is forbidden? - page 8.

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Quote from: ARTOIS on February 14, 2024, 11:19:54 AM

When we talk about religion we cannot dine the forbidden things like alcohol, prostitution and many other things in this topic we will discuss why do gambling is forbidden (Haram, interdit) .
So can you tell me why is it forbidden in your religion?
And for the non religious persons what you think ?

That is a good question. In my religion gambling is not forbidden but it also not encouraged. A good person shouldn't be gambling with money and also not consume too much alcohol, so I am probably a sinner in my own religion. Luckily I am not a religious person and don't take the Bible at face value. My grand parents where really religious, but among friends I don't know anybody that is religious and goes to church regularly. The books where written so long ago and we now live in a completely different world that I feel like we can't be forced into a type of life by them anymore. Looking back at religion in the past o feels like it was used to control the people. We should focus more on enjoying life at the moment and not pleasing our local priest. For me gambling is fine as long as I don't do anything bad to get the money for gambling. Stealing to have money for gambling is wrong, and so is lying.

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Nowadays, in this day and age, many people don't really adhere to religion, maybe because of the needs of life or activities and habits, you behave well is enough, at least what you do doesn't disturb other people and general peace, you will be seen as more respectable, after all Never link everything to religion, it will prolong matters, it depends on how you respond to religion in your life

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Just use of banks to lend money used to be commonly banned, I could imagine gambling and a few things being banned at points in time. Modern times most churches will run a lotto or raffle of some kind so I presume gambling is now no longer considered banned as such but may be discouraged to any excess. Same with any possible vice, drinking and lots of things, you are supposed to put spare cash into charity or a tithe as its known roughly a tenth of income is given to charity or the church. Where as my gambling advice is to take spare cash for the game as a possible win or loss, never use main cash to gamble so there is some conflict to religion and gambling but it doesnt have to be that way.

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Quote from: AicecreaME on February 17, 2024, 08:17:51 AM

Bible says "money is a root of all kinds of evil", with that, I believe all of the religion and other religious organizations forbids gambling or any other illegal ways of earning money that can give anyone a bad effect such as addiction.

Any kind of addiction is bad, that's why anything that is too much is bad. Since we're in a world where money is very important, I believe what the Bible is trying to say, is that we have to be in control for everything. Seeking for more money to be rich, to buy anything we wanted is not bad as long as our conscience is clean and pure, and of course we don't do things that's illegal or inhumane when earning money.

But for some reason, some people are using words of God in order to gain fame and money, imagine how cruel that is.

The illegal way of earning was against by many religious beliefs,but still the gamblers from various religions was in the gambling site.It was their own opinion,like wise the credit giving was against some religions.But the religious followers give credit to the needed people.The money making is not against the religion,the wrong way of the money making was wrong.The gambling is not the wrong thing,because we are not going to scam any people in the gambling site.One who had good analytical skills can make a money from the same gambling site.

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Quote from: Ultegra134 on February 17, 2024, 08:00:22 AM

Quote from: Gozie51 on February 15, 2024, 05:46:23 PM

Talking about Christianity, it didn't only talk about greed of the love for money but it also condemned it in the bible when the gamblers were seen in the act of gambling and were chased away and that I think signifies those who desire to come close to God should avoid involving themselves in it. But these things don't work that way as more people in the Christendom find themselves gambling even publicly and this is because many feel they can make ends meet with gambling in this harsh economy.

It's quite possible; I haven't read the Bible, but I wouldn't be surprised if it explicitly mentioned that gambling is a sin. As I mentioned in my previous post, I'm an atheist and can't say I'm too bothered about what religion or the Bible says. It wouldn't affect me either way. However, if you take into account the Bible, a lot of things we do on a daily basis, or at least quite frequently, are considered sins. Thus, why should anyone take into consideration whether religion condemns gambling or not?

Perhaps out of curiosity, people tend to have their own set of beliefs, religious practices, and activities that they engage in. Given that we come from different parts of the world, it's natural to be curious about whether these practices are similar or different from those of people from other countries and religions. Like one thing that has always puzzled to some is why some religions frown upon gambling, while others see it as perfectly acceptable.

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Quote from: carlfebz2 on February 16, 2024, 03:53:23 PM

Whether its literal a government law or church law or rules then it wont really be an assurance that people would really be following up these things on which they would really be that playing no matter
what and this is would really be according into their own interest and preference on which we do know that this is something that will really be that depending on a certain person.
No one could really be able to stop those people on dealing up with something even if its prohibited or not really that allowed, as long they could be able to see those things or paths
then this is where people would really be playing no matter what. Neither it could be sin or unlawful or whatsoever then they dont really care about it.

That's the reality of life, whether things are prohibited there will always be the people that will continue to do against it.
They go to church and then they still gamble and some churches law are being prohibited but there are followers that do break it.
This is the case that will always prove that there's no perfect person, church, system and government.

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Bible says "money is a root of all kinds of evil", with that, I believe all of the religion and other religious organizations forbids gambling or any other illegal ways of earning money that can give anyone a bad effect such as addiction.

Any kind of addiction is bad, that's why anything that is too much is bad. Since we're in a world where money is very important, I believe what the Bible is trying to say, is that we have to be in control for everything. Seeking for more money to be rich, to buy anything we wanted is not bad as long as our conscience is clean and pure, and of course we don't do things that's illegal or inhumane when earning money.

But for some reason, some people are using words of God in order to gain fame and money, imagine how cruel that is.

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Quote from: Gozie51 on February 15, 2024, 05:46:23 PM

Talking about Christianity, it didn't only talk about greed of the love for money but it also condemned it in the bible when the gamblers were seen in the act of gambling and were chased away and that I think signifies those who desire to come close to God should avoid involving themselves in it. But these things don't work that way as more people in the Christendom find themselves gambling even publicly and this is because many feel they can make ends meet with gambling in this harsh economy.

It's quite possible; I haven't read the Bible, but I wouldn't be surprised if it explicitly mentioned that gambling is a sin. As I mentioned in my previous post, I'm an atheist and can't say I'm too bothered about what religion or the Bible says. It wouldn't affect me either way. However, if you take into account the Bible, a lot of things we do on a daily basis, or at least quite frequently, are considered sins. Thus, why should anyone take into consideration whether religion condemns gambling or not?

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As I'm a member of Roman Catholic Church, here is what it says about gambling in The Catechism of the Catholic Church #2413:

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"Games of chance (card games, etc.) or wagers are not in themselves contrary to justice. They become morally unacceptable when they deprive someone of what is necessary to provide for his needs and those of others. The passion for gambling risks becoming an enslavement. Unfair wagers and cheating at games constitute grave matter, unless the damage inflicted is so slight that the one who suffers it cannot reasonably consider it significant."

Sin or forbidden is not mentioned here but I cant interpret it myself, so maybe I need to consult it to others who have better knowledge and understanding about this catechism. For me, gambling is not a sin as long as it is being done fairly where all involved parties (players) knows what they are doing.

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Probably because of virtues, that's the first thing that has come to my mind when I thought of the forbidding or making gambling a taboo in religion, gambling is seen as a display of greed and gluttony for money and a lot of religion has some way of saying that it's a bad thing to participate in it. I like to think of gambling this way with religion, some dude that have written the book of some religious texts have probably gambled and lost a lot of money and they were so bitter about it that when they've created those religious texts, they made sure to include the forbidding of participation in gambling.

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Quote from: Quidat on February 16, 2024, 02:21:40 AM

This is a good read about into those known religions views about gambling some do accept and reconsider it and some of them totally prohibits it.

Leader of Conservative Judaism in the UK, Rabbi Louis Jacobs, stated that playing cards, betting on horses and taking part in games of pure chance are accepted in Judaism as long as people are careful and responsible.
https://onlinebingo.co.uk/news/what-religion-says-about-gambling

In the end of the day it would really be still that depending on someones choice and control whether they would be pursuing it or let it pass.

Yes, it was an interesting read about religions' views on gambling. Many religions prohibit gambling and people already know that. However, if there are still people who gamble even though they know their religion prohibits gambling, it will come back to them and it is between them and their God. He must be accountable to his God while it is written in his religion that gambling is prohibited. It all depends on a person's decision to continue gambling or stop gambling.

Quote from: Docnaster on February 16, 2024, 04:13:49 PM

Statistics have shown that the number of irresponsible gamblers are far more than the number of responsible gamblers who possess the mental strength to control their gambling activities and that's it's widely believed in most of the religions of the world that gambling isn't an engagement that's good for mortal men because it poses the danger of ruining their lives at the end of the day.
Gambling to me isn't a bad engagement provided that the concerned gambler is capable of being responsible with his gambling activities but it doesn't change the fact that my own religion forbids gambling. So it's absolutely fine for most religions to forbid gambling if you ask me

Yes, that's true because when a person becomes more frequent in gambling, he can forget about other things in his life that he has to do. He has found joy in gambling, so he doesn't stop gambling for a moment but instead gets deeper into gambling, and that only creates gambling addiction problems for him. Playing gambling is just an activity that doesn't need to be done every day, especially since they already know that their religion prohibits gambling. But even though their religion prohibits gambling, they still do not stop their gambling activities because they feel they are having fun when gambling, so they want to continue it. Whether gambling or not is everyone's choice.

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For Christians, the Bible does not mention gambling as a sin. I believe the argument against would be the Bible verse (Matt. 6:24) that says “You cannot serve both God and money”. Christianity has many doctrines and some may believe gambling is a sin, some may not and others may be indifferent about the issue. Islam on the other hand has very strong anti gambling views. For atheists, I think their thoughts on gambling is a matter of morality than faith.

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Quote from: Weawant on February 16, 2024, 04:48:11 PM

Quote from: DaNNy001 on February 16, 2024, 04:10:53 PM

Well even in place where there are one religion, I think people can still be allowed to do what they believe Because it's a free world and restrictions on things because of religions believe is not really sounding okay although I know that most people are strict with their religion and that's why the whole nation such acts as gambling is seen as evil and some place even punishable too.

It's really funny how it's supposed to be a free world but in the actual sense now it's no longer a free world because there are places where strict restrictions are placed on certain things and with such if you violate you are going to be punished and it's almost not negotiable with certain regions so you have to abide or find away around it.

Most gamblers in such regions do find a way to still gamble in their private space where they are sure not to get exposed and face the wrath of the authorities. In a s much nas this maybe looking like an infringement on people's choices on what they choose to do but the economic impact of such could be a solid reason to not let such take place in certain region just like the case of alcohol been Bann in some countries due to some unrest they experienced some time ago due to alcohol consumption and since then a ban has been placed on it.

That is a complex issue surrounding personal freedoms and societal regulations. The reality is that various regions impose strict restrictions on certain activities, including gambling and alcohol consumption, among others. These restrictions are typically put in place for a variety of reasons, including public health concerns, cultural norms, and economic considerations. In the case of gambling, governments may regulate or even prohibit it due to concerns about addiction, financial hardship for individuals, and the potential for criminal activity associated with gambling operations.

Regarding alcohol bans in certain countries due to past unrest implies how governments may respond to social challenges by implementing strict measures. While these restrictions may limit personal freedoms to some extent, they are often justified by policymakers as necessary for maintaining public order and safety. Finding a balance between individual liberties and societal interests is a perennial challenge for governments worldwide. The goal is to create regulations that uphold public welfare while respecting individual rights as much as possible.

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Quote from: Weawant on February 16, 2024, 04:48:11 PM

Most gamblers in such regions do find a way to still gamble in their private space where they are sure not to get exposed and face the wrath of the authorities. In a s much nas this maybe looking like an infringement on people's choices on what they choose to do but the economic impact of such could be a solid reason to not let such take place in certain region just like the case of alcohol been Bann in some countries due to some unrest they experienced some time ago due to alcohol consumption and since then a ban has been placed on it.

We must respect any religious factors that are valid in the provisions of state law, so there is no one in the world who does not have a religion, although there are some groups who do not choose any religion but must respect the rules of other religions for limitations in behavior and action, actually there are other benefits if reviewed in prohibition of gambling according to certain religions even though their behavior is a violation but they only gamble for fun and they only gamble at certain times in a closed room and gambling activities are not exposed.

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Quote from: shivansps on February 16, 2024, 04:49:47 PM

The Bible says: “Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.”
From a Christian point of view, I would also like to add that I don’t remember a ban on gambling as such, but a person who starts gambling sooner or later may encounter problems, such as loss of money, loss of trust from loved ones, and will begin to worry a lot, constantly think about the stakes and subsequently change your life for the worse. My point is that gambling itself is not a sin, but the consequences will be sinful, so it is not permissible. This is just my point of view

It is a good explanation, I think.
I went to a religious school and I do not recall any teaching explicitly condemning the action of gambling or betting. There were kids who openly talked about betting (not gambling) and they were never called out by teachers about some alleged wrongdoing in that sense.
I have visited some other religious webpages and looked for some of their views on gambling, in the most of occasions their views on gambling have something to do with the love for money versus the love for God, as I have already mentioned in a previous post in this thread; other Christian denominations do not make references on the words of Jesus Christ about the love for money, but they point out how betting and gambling are very different from any other source of income or job; according to them, for someone to get benefited from gambling others have to suffer inevitable losses which does not happen with someone is ar artist, and engineer, or a merchant. Obviously, they do not take in mind some people gambling do so fully for the sake of fun and entertainment, they only consider the flow of money.

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The Bible says: “Where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is freedom.”
From a Christian point of view, I would also like to add that I don’t remember a ban on gambling as such, but a person who starts gambling sooner or later may encounter problems, such as loss of money, loss of trust from loved ones, and will begin to worry a lot, constantly think about the stakes and subsequently change your life for the worse. My point is that gambling itself is not a sin, but the consequences will be sinful, so it is not permissible. This is just my point of view

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Quote from: DaNNy001 on February 16, 2024, 04:10:53 PM

Well even in place where there are one religion, I think people can still be allowed to do what they believe Because it's a free world and restrictions on things because of religions believe is not really sounding okay although I know that most people are strict with their religion and that's why the whole nation such acts as gambling is seen as evil and some place even punishable too.

It's really funny how it's supposed to be a free world but in the actual sense now it's no longer a free world because there are places where strict restrictions are placed on certain things and with such if you violate you are going to be punished and it's almost not negotiable with certain regions so you have to abide or find away around it.

Most gamblers in such regions do find a way to still gamble in their private space where they are sure not to get exposed and face the wrath of the authorities. In a s much nas this maybe looking like an infringement on people's choices on what they choose to do but the economic impact of such could be a solid reason to not let such take place in certain region just like the case of alcohol been Bann in some countries due to some unrest they experienced some time ago due to alcohol consumption and since then a ban has been placed on it.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on February 16, 2024, 12:35:40 AM

Gambling is prohibited in religion because it can make people forget to do other things. This has happened a lot and many people even gamble excessively, losing a lot of money and not meeting their daily needs, even though gambling is just to have fun for a while in between their busy schedules and to forget the tension of doing routine activities. But the large number of people who use gambling excessively makes them lose self-control and it has exceeded the limit so that religion prohibits gambling. Anything excessive is certainly not recommended, so if someone wants to gamble even though it is prohibited in their religion, they should consider it before deciding. This depends on each person because even though religion has prohibited it, there are still many people who continue to gamble for the reason of seeking pleasure from gambling. That is their desire and they should understand the risks of gambling apart from being prohibited in their religion.

Statistics have shown that the number of irresponsible gamblers are far more than the number of responsible gamblers who possess the mental strength to control their gambling activities and that's it's widely believed in most of the religions of the world that gambling isn't an engagement that's good for mortal men because it poses the danger of ruining their lives at the end of the day.
Gambling to me isn't a bad engagement provided that the concerned gambler is capable of being responsible with his gambling activities but it doesn't change the fact that my own religion forbids gambling. So it's absolutely fine for most religions to forbid gambling if you ask me

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Quote from: shivansps on February 15, 2024, 05:28:15 PM

Quote from: ARTOIS on February 14, 2024, 11:19:54 AM

When we talk about religion we cannot dine the forbidden things like alcohol, prostitution and many other things in this topic we will discuss why do gambling is forbidden (Haram, interdit) .
So can you tell me why is it forbidden in your religion?
And for the non religious persons what you think ?

Interest Ask. I'll tell you what I heard about this. In religion, people rely on God, his plan and his power at work in our lives. There is one God and there cannot be another. While previously, non-believers worshiped the goddess “Luck” and believed in her, which is considered unacceptable in many religions. There is God and his power and hoping for luck is contrary to religion

Well even in place where there are one religion, I think people can still be allowed to do what they believe Because it's a free world and restrictions on things because of religions believe is not really sounding okay although I know that most people are strict with their religion and that's why the whole nation such acts as gambling is seen as evil and some place even punishable too.

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Quote from: shivansps on February 15, 2024, 05:28:15 PM

Quote from: ARTOIS on February 14, 2024, 11:19:54 AM

When we talk about religion we cannot dine the forbidden things like alcohol, prostitution and many other things in this topic we will discuss why do gambling is forbidden (Haram, interdit) .
So can you tell me why is it forbidden in your religion?
And for the non religious persons what you think ?

Interest Ask. I'll tell you what I heard about this. In religion, people rely on God, his plan and his power at work in our lives. There is one God and there cannot be another. While previously, non-believers worshipped the goddess “Luck” and believed in her, which is considered unacceptable in many religions. There is God and his power and hoping for luck is contrary to religion

While we are at that, we should also take a closer look at what we mean by God and religion, because when it comes to sensitive discussion topics such as this, we need to make out adequate analysis of the subject matter and to wholly separate them from one to another.

Gambling is restricted by some religions, but we can't say that gambling is entirely an ungodly activity such as other sins such as stealing, killing or other severe sins that are outlined in the Holly books, so gambling is only frowned upon by some religions and at that we may not conclude that all gamblers will go to hell based on how the religion made it look as what makes that religion to have such harsh stand against gambling is the fact that gambling outcome could be a severe outcome that could affect everyone in theost negative ways, and this only happens when the gambler is irresponsible in his actions.

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