Why isn't atheism classified as another religion? - page 5.

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Quote from: Astargath on April 18, 2018, 01:44:49 PM

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Atheism is classified as another religion all over the place. Google it. The reason it is not classified so universally, is that there are atheists who don't seem to know the definition of religion, who want to classify atheism differently.

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You are the only one saying that, why though? Are you trying to insult atheism by calling a religion and if you are, are you not implying that a religion is a bad thing then?

You forgot the part about doing an Internet search to see that I am not the only one saying that.

You forgot the part about checking the complete definitions of the words atheism and religion, so you can see that atheism is a religion by definition.

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So you are saying atheism is a religion and that religions are bad, right?

I think he is saying that atheists are religiously pointing out the logical fallacies in ALL religions.

That is why he is calling it a religion. In his world view being dedicated to something makes you religious.

His IQ is around 80-85 in my estimation. He is convinced that the world is 6000 years old so I would not worry that he calls atheism a religion.

The guy is reading from one book; and he did not read it all the way to the end. If he did, he would be an atheist.

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Quote from: chathu789 on April 17, 2018, 03:09:27 AM

Since atheists have a common belief system and they are pretty organized why they do not consider themselves as a part of a another religion which does not have a god?

Atheism is not a religion, but a world view that denies religion as a belief in the supernatural.

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Quote from: Astargath on April 18, 2018, 01:44:49 PM

Quote from: BADecker on April 18, 2018, 10:38:46 AM

Quote from: Astargath on April 18, 2018, 06:01:58 AM

Quote from: BADecker on April 17, 2018, 04:52:59 PM

Atheism is classified as another religion all over the place. Google it. The reason it is not classified so universally, is that there are atheists who don't seem to know the definition of religion, who want to classify atheism differently.

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You are the only one saying that, why though? Are you trying to insult atheism by calling a religion and if you are, are you not implying that a religion is a bad thing then?

You forgot the part about doing an Internet search to see that I am not the only one saying that.

You forgot the part about checking the complete definitions of the words atheism and religion, so you can see that atheism is a religion by definition.

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So you are saying atheism is a religion and that religions are bad, right?

Finally you are getting the point. People have religions. Therefore people are bad. Even Coincube has shown you that in the Health and Religion thread.

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Quote from: af_newbie on April 18, 2018, 06:43:58 PM

Quote from: Astargath on April 18, 2018, 01:44:49 PM

Quote from: BADecker on April 18, 2018, 10:38:46 AM

Quote from: Astargath on April 18, 2018, 06:01:58 AM

Quote from: BADecker on April 17, 2018, 04:52:59 PM

Atheism is classified as another religion all over the place. Google it. The reason it is not classified so universally, is that there are atheists who don't seem to know the definition of religion, who want to classify atheism differently.

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You are the only one saying that, why though? Are you trying to insult atheism by calling a religion and if you are, are you not implying that a religion is a bad thing then?

You forgot the part about doing an Internet search to see that I am not the only one saying that.

You forgot the part about checking the complete definitions of the words atheism and religion, so you can see that atheism is a religion by definition.

Cool

So you are saying atheism is a religion and that religions are bad, right?

I think he is saying that atheists are religiously pointing out the logical fallacies in ALL religions.

That is why he is calling it a religion. In his world view being dedicated to something makes you religious.

His IQ is around 80-85 in my estimation. He is convinced that the world is 6000 years old so I would not worry that he calls atheism a religion.

The guy is reading from one book; and he did not read it all the way to the end. If he did, he would be an atheist.

You still don't know how to do an Internet search to see that many people explain how atheism is a religion, right?

You still haven't figured out how to use a good dictionary or encyclopedia to find out that the definition of atheism shows that it is a religion according to the definition of religion, right?

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Quote from: BADecker on April 18, 2018, 10:38:46 AM

Quote from: Astargath on April 18, 2018, 06:01:58 AM

Quote from: BADecker on April 17, 2018, 04:52:59 PM

Atheism is classified as another religion all over the place. Google it. The reason it is not classified so universally, is that there are atheists who don't seem to know the definition of religion, who want to classify atheism differently.

Cool

You are the only one saying that, why though? Are you trying to insult atheism by calling a religion and if you are, are you not implying that a religion is a bad thing then?

You forgot the part about doing an Internet search to see that I am not the only one saying that.

You forgot the part about checking the complete definitions of the words atheism and religion, so you can see that atheism is a religion by definition.

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So you are saying atheism is a religion and that religions are bad, right?

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Quote from: chathu789 on April 17, 2018, 03:09:27 AM

Since atheists have a common belief system and they are pretty organized why they do not consider themselves as a part of a another religion which does not have a god?

Sure man, that's why there are countless churches of atheism where we go to every Sunday to worship and read from the atheist bible Cheesy

Hey let me call up my buddies from Atheists Anonymous and ask them, how believing in one deity less than the average Christian makes us a religion lol

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Religion is a certain system of views, conditioned by belief in the supernatural. Atheism is a lack of belief in gods. Atheists are not believers in supernatural. They are convinced that there's no any gods. And they rely on clear, logical arguments.

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Quote from: chathu789 on April 17, 2018, 03:09:27 AM

Since atheists have a common belief system and they are pretty organized why they do not consider themselves as a part of a another religion which does not have a god?

Who says its not considered a religion? People may call it whatever they want but atheism is basically a religion that doesn't believe in any dieties and prefer to be practical about it. It's actually a religion that makes good sense in a way :p

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The damage that religion has done to the world from holding back science due to it proving religion wrong and the countless wars in my opinion makes it so that atheism really is no form of religion.

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Quote from: JiuMiBe on April 18, 2018, 06:28:37 AM

In the broadest sense, there is a lack of faith in the existence of the divine. In a narrower sense, atheism is a denial of the belief that divinity exists, specifically, atheism is the view that there is no divinity. Atheistic opposition to theism, in the most general form, is the belief that at least one god exists.

But the lack of faith isn't complete in the atheist. Even the atheist suggests by inference that he is god by claiming that there is no God. After all, how else would an atheist be able to determine that there is no God, except if he were a god knowing all things so that he could make that determination?

Consider. Do you or I absolutely know everything? No! So, how could the atheist know that God doesn't exist somewhere he hasn't examined yet?

You might answer that the atheist is such because he believes that there is no God, even though he doesn't know it.

I would respond that since the atheist knows that he doesn't know, he doesn't really believe in his own atheism. Atheism is a lie. At best it is incorrectly defined.

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Quote from: Astargath on April 18, 2018, 06:01:58 AM

Quote from: BADecker on April 17, 2018, 04:52:59 PM

Atheism is classified as another religion all over the place. Google it. The reason it is not classified so universally, is that there are atheists who don't seem to know the definition of religion, who want to classify atheism differently.

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You are the only one saying that, why though? Are you trying to insult atheism by calling a religion and if you are, are you not implying that a religion is a bad thing then?

You forgot the part about doing an Internet search to see that I am not the only one saying that.

You forgot the part about checking the complete definitions of the words atheism and religion, so you can see that atheism is a religion by definition.

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Quote from: chathu789 on April 17, 2018, 03:09:27 AM

Since atheists have a common belief system and they are pretty organized why they do not consider themselves as a part of a another religion which does not have a god?

atheists dont have a common belief, atheism is about disbelieving and researching validating the information you receive for truth or distruth

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In the broadest sense, there is a lack of faith in the existence of the divine. In a narrower sense, atheism is a denial of the belief that divinity exists, specifically, atheism is the view that there is no divinity. Atheistic opposition to theism, in the most general form, is the belief that at least one god exists.

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Quote from: BADecker on April 17, 2018, 04:52:59 PM

Atheism is classified as another religion all over the place. Google it. The reason it is not classified so universally, is that there are atheists who don't seem to know the definition of religion, who want to classify atheism differently.

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You are the only one saying that, why though? Are you trying to insult atheism by calling a religion and if you are, are you not implying that a religion is a bad thing then?

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I am not trying to bash atheists or whatever the other guys who believe in religions, i want to know a simple thing. Must there be a god in a religion to be considered as a religion? Aren't there any religions without the belief of a almighty one?

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Quote from: chathu789 on April 17, 2018, 03:09:27 AM

Since atheists have a common belief system and they are pretty organized why they do not consider themselves as a part of a another religion which does not have a god?

Religion is the belief and worship of God, gods, deities or whatever you want to may call your gods. Atheists are persons who does not believe in the existence of a god that is why you cannot consider atheism to be a religion.

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Quote from: chathu789 on April 17, 2018, 03:09:27 AM

Since atheists have a common belief system and they are pretty organized why they do not consider themselves as a part of a another religion which does not have a god?

Because not playing sport is not a sport.

True! It couldn't be as simple as it is. If you are told to put in your religion, then you place "not applicable" because you don't believe in a religion. If you consider atheism as a religion then you defeat the purpose of an atheistic life. If you don't believe in a higher power then that is not a religion, you have an absence of religion. The above reply is kind of harsh, but it is true. You can't consider atheism as a religion like you won't consider not a playing a sport as a sport.

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IMO it's hard to classify something as something that it is not. The whole point of religion is that in some form or fashion a religious person believes in a god or a higher power and the fact that atheist don't believe in such things don't make them religious by default which means you can't classify them as such even if there are a well organised "group" of them. It's kinda like a car and a tree i'll just roll with that metaphor on this one. The car(religious person) is a car and a tree(atheist person) is a tree the tree isn't trying to be a car in any way therefore it is not a car. If the tree decided one day that it wanted to be a car and went through the trouble of reforming itself by getting an engine, wheels, etc to be a car then it would be a car. I hope that made sense I kinda just made that up on the fly.

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From what I understand they simply don't believe in a deity and that's the only thing they have in common. There are some that still have some inkling of past religiosity like those that believe there is a "force" or something out there. I've watched a few vids, they're a rather mixed bunch.

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Quote from: chathu789 on April 17, 2018, 03:09:27 AM

Since atheists have a common belief system and they are pretty organized why they do not consider themselves as a part of a another religion which does not have a god?

Because not playing sport is not a sport.

Nice and simple.

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Quote from: chathu789 on April 17, 2018, 03:09:27 AM

Since atheists have a common belief system and they are pretty organized why they do not consider themselves as a part of a another religion which does not have a god?

It is a matter of understanding the word "religion"
Maybe because religion is always define as a practice of belief with superstitious understanding, and also atheists don't have a weekly activity and discuss many things about their philosophy unlike religious people.
So it doesn't matter if they are a religion or not a big deal. The big deal is if you are belong to religion be active on it, do your duty to keep yourself from being hypocrite.

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