Why isn't public transport free? - page 2.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on March 30, 2017, 03:51:10 AM

Quote from: mamichula on March 30, 2017, 12:13:51 AM

Nothing is ever free. Where would the money to run the service come from? Higher taxes. Then people who don't use it are going to be pissed off.

Public transport is heavily subsidized in many of the countries, as it helps in minimizing the vehicle pollution. If more and more people use public transport instead of individual vehicles, then the government will be able to save quite a lot of money.

There are pros and cons to everything. I just feel it would be an issue that will be chaotic because politicians are going to pick sides, and their party are going to choose that side.

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Quote from: mamichula on March 30, 2017, 12:13:51 AM

Nothing is ever free. Where would the money to run the service come from? Higher taxes. Then people who don't use it are going to be pissed off.

Public transport is heavily subsidized in many of the countries, as it helps in minimizing the vehicle pollution. If more and more people use public transport instead of individual vehicles, then the government will be able to save quite a lot of money.

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Quote from: SirPol85 on March 30, 2017, 12:34:56 AM

Quote from: mamichula on March 30, 2017, 12:13:51 AM

Nothing is ever free. Where would the money to run the service come from? Higher taxes. Then people who don't use it are going to be pissed off.

Already and so taxes raised to the limits and wages are small, so transport can not be free. Perhaps in the future there will be such cheap technologies that will make public transport available for free, but this is not enough for me.

Perhaps trains that run on magnets. That would make the load lighter.

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Quote from: mamichula on March 30, 2017, 12:13:51 AM

Nothing is ever free. Where would the money to run the service come from? Higher taxes. Then people who don't use it are going to be pissed off.

Already and so taxes raised to the limits and wages are small, so transport can not be free. Perhaps in the future there will be such cheap technologies that will make public transport available for free, but this is not enough for me.

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Nothing is ever free. Where would the money to run the service come from? Higher taxes. Then people who don't use it are going to be pissed off.

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Nothing is free,it just means taking more from the tax payer to fund it.Maybe it will cause a public become crowded.We have to pay for it in the form of taxes.I think without fares, public transit would run out of money and break down. Or you worry that a free ride would attract riff-raff threatening other passengers' safety and comfort.

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Quote from: AleSergio on January 11, 2017, 12:18:57 PM

There are some countries where public transport is free, for their citizens. For example in Estonia especially in Tallinn public transport is free =)

You need to mention that in Talinn, the public transport is free only for the residents (need to show an ID card). If you are a tourist, or a visitor from some other city, then you need to pay for the transport.

Yes do experiment with free transport in Tallinn has been quite successful. Some cities of Poland and Romania is also now trying to do the same. But for this the city of Tallinn has increased the cost of Parking. Just shifted the payment of tolls on motorists.

That is the best thing to do. Now the residents will be more inclined to use the public transport, and they will use their private vehicles only when it is necessary. This will reduce the pollution, and the municipal expenses also will decrease.

Not only that. But an efficient transportation system will also attract tons of tourists.

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Quote from: dark_pride on January 15, 2017, 06:30:31 AM

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Quote from: AleSergio on January 11, 2017, 12:18:57 PM

There are some countries where public transport is free, for their citizens. For example in Estonia especially in Tallinn public transport is free =)

You need to mention that in Talinn, the public transport is free only for the residents (need to show an ID card). If you are a tourist, or a visitor from some other city, then you need to pay for the transport.

Yes do experiment with free transport in Tallinn has been quite successful. Some cities of Poland and Romania is also now trying to do the same. But for this the city of Tallinn has increased the cost of Parking. Just shifted the payment of tolls on motorists.

That is the best thing to do. Now the residents will be more inclined to use the public transport, and they will use their private vehicles only when it is necessary. This will reduce the pollution, and the municipal expenses also will decrease.

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Quote from: margarete11 on January 15, 2017, 08:38:05 PM

Obviously because public transport workers also have needs and they can acquire it by getting the payments in the public, but I am proud to say that there are city here in the philippines offering free public transport and all the expenses and wages for the workers are paid by the government , I think it is feasible as long as the government will pay for the expenses.

Some cities in Philippines offering free public transport, while other cities cannot provide free public transport. Imagine, all of cities will offer free public transport, where will the government get their expenses? Another tax price hike will be. Can we trust government officials can return our tax money for our own expenses?

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Obviously because public transport workers also have needs and they can acquire it by getting the payments in the public, but I am proud to say that there are city here in the philippines offering free public transport and all the expenses and wages for the workers are paid by the government , I think it is feasible as long as the government will pay for the expenses.

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Quote from: ifightformerkel on January 15, 2017, 06:57:15 PM

I have a other question, why public transport should be free?

The must pay for the workers, the fuel, the cars and that every day.

Your question make no sense in my opinion.

Its also good question why public transport should be free because they have to do many things like fuel workers maintenance and buying of new stuff so you can create your own thread with this question

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I have a other question, why public transport should be free?

The must pay for the workers, the fuel, the cars and that every day.

Your question make no sense in my opinion.

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Quote from: loreykyutt05 on January 15, 2017, 08:32:51 AM

For me, public transport must be free, it is about to serve people. But sometimes, some of our politicians steal our own money (tax), some of our politicians do bad or illegal things for their own. Where our tax goes? What are the things do our politicians do, where own tax goes ?

Yes, we all know that we are paying tax, but all of us do not know where tax goes ? We all know that taxes that we are paid for, is for our streets and highways, but why our streets and highways are broken. Why did the government did not do it ? Where did they spent our taxes ? Local government should know this

Banks too busy loaning money to the military for war. No time to loan to the local government for the roads.

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Quote from: loreykyutt05 on January 15, 2017, 08:32:51 AM

For me, public transport must be free, it is about to serve people. But sometimes, some of our politicians steal our own money (tax), some of our politicians do bad or illegal things for their own. Where our tax goes? What are the things do our politicians do, where own tax goes ?

Yes, we all know that we are paying tax, but all of us do not know where tax goes ? We all know that taxes that we are paid for, is for our streets and highways, but why our streets and highways are broken. Why did the government did not do it ? Where did they spent our taxes ? Local government should know this

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For me, public transport must be free, it is about to serve people. But sometimes, some of our politicians steal our own money (tax), some of our politicians do bad or illegal things for their own. Where our tax goes? What are the things do our politicians do, where own tax goes ?

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Quote from: Sithara007 on January 15, 2017, 02:20:35 AM

Quote from: AleSergio on January 11, 2017, 12:18:57 PM

There are some countries where public transport is free, for their citizens. For example in Estonia especially in Tallinn public transport is free =)

You need to mention that in Talinn, the public transport is free only for the residents (need to show an ID card). If you are a tourist, or a visitor from some other city, then you need to pay for the transport.

Yes do experiment with free transport in Tallinn has been quite successful. Some cities of Poland and Romania is also now trying to do the same. But for this the city of Tallinn has increased the cost of Parking. Just shifted the payment of tolls on motorists.

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Quote from: Masha Sha on September 12, 2016, 02:59:13 AM

Taxes + tickets + ads revenues... All of this to pay executives and press relation managers high salaries?

Because they ned to maintenance their transport thats why tickets and other fee are not free if the goverment are super rich maybe they can get some way to make things possible also they can't be free transport because no one driver wants to drive people for free.

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It cannot be free because they need to buy fuel,maintain the car or bus and also make profit from it nobody will go into a business without making profit

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Quote from: AleSergio on January 11, 2017, 12:18:57 PM

There are some countries where public transport is free, for their citizens. For example in Estonia especially in Tallinn public transport is free =)

You need to mention that in Talinn, the public transport is free only for the residents (need to show an ID card). If you are a tourist, or a visitor from some other city, then you need to pay for the transport.

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Public transport is a big system and I think the taxes are just not enough for it to work properly. In my country the buses are old, the trams are even older. For kids and old people the transport is free and for the rest of people it isn't. However, it doesn't cost a lot. Actually, it's rather cheap. A but ticket is like a seventh of dollar and the price doesn't depend on the distance, so it's totally fine. And if public transport was free then people who give tickets wouldn't be able not to let some homeless people use it and these people are agressive and usually have a strong smell you can't stand.

Deodorant might cover a strong smell, but you can still tell a political hypocrite by what he says and does.

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