Topic: Why isn't public transport free? - page 5. (Read 8593 times)
Who will drive transport for free within 8 hours ? For what money purchase new buses, spare parts, fuel ? This is utopia my friend. But, You can subsidize it with the budget, in a rich country.
Some parts of the world it is free.
I would take a guess and say Switzerland and Sweden even Denmark since they are the wealthiest nations of the world with not so much debit as USA has.
Even some richer places like Calgary in Canada has free access to their street cars in the metropolitan downtown area.
I would take a guess and say Switzerland and Sweden even Denmark since they are the wealthiest nations of the world with not so much debit as USA has.
Even some richer places like Calgary in Canada has free access to their street cars in the metropolitan downtown area.
Public transport is not free in countries such as Switzerland and Denmark, as you have posted. In Sweden also, public transport is free only in three cities (Avesta, Kiruna, and Övertorneå).
Some parts of the world it is free.
I would take a guess and say Switzerland and Sweden even Denmark since they are the wealthiest nations of the world with not so much debit as USA has.
Even some richer places like Calgary in Canada has free access to their street cars in the metropolitan downtown area.
I would take a guess and say Switzerland and Sweden even Denmark since they are the wealthiest nations of the world with not so much debit as USA has.
Even some richer places like Calgary in Canada has free access to their street cars in the metropolitan downtown area.
I think it depends on your country. In my country buses and other public transport is not free. If youvare a pwd, pregnant, seniior citizen, students, they only give a discount on your fare. Sometimes there are government vihicles that give free rides to people but not everyday.
Discounted rides are much better than the free ones. Also, the government must make sure that only those who are truly disabled should get these discounted rides. And that too, only for a certain number of rides per month.
If public transportation were "free", then it will simply be paid for by taxes. Nothing is free.
Consider the self-driving vehicles that are on the roads right now. They are free from drives. Go the next step.
Robots make the vehicles for free. Robots make the roads for free. Robots do the driving for free. Robots do everything for us for free.
We are not there YET. It is coming. Full freedom. Let the robots do the work.
If public transportation were "free", then it will simply be paid for by taxes. Nothing is free.
I think it depends on your country. In my country buses and other public transport is not free. If youvare a pwd, pregnant, seniior citizen, students, they only give a discount on your fare. Sometimes there are government vihicles that give free rides to people but not everyday.
Sometimes i wonder why you are such a religious zealot even though you are able to think quite into the future.
For your good. Haven't you noticed that people are religious creatures? Embrace your religiosity. You just might find a form of it that will allow you to live forever.
Sometimes i wonder why you are such a religious zealot even though you are able to think quite into the future.
Agreed but only if it's developped with some kind of redistribution of wealth (I won't say the word socialism here, it would make the whole forum come crying) because otherwise only the people owning the robots will have anything.
Redistribution of wealth is the most basic ideal of Socialism. So if you are arguing in favor of the redistribution of wealth, then you are a socialist.
In my opinion, the robots must be under the ownership of the state. That will eliminate the possibility of wealth concentrating in the hands of a few individuals.
Communist
Right. What wealth? The robots shouldn't be owned. They do everything for everybody.
Does it make anybody a better person to own a thousand gallons of ice cream? What good is a thousand tons of gold to anyone? Who wants ice cream and gold when the robots can make it for you at any time. And what good is it? Nobody can eat a thousand gallons of ice cream, or a thousand tons of gold.
Do you like the color of gold? Put yourself in a gold plated room, and look at it for a hundred years. What good does it do you?
The wealth is in your life, your feelings, your health. The robots give you the joys that you want. That's the wealth.
Agreed but only if it's developped with some kind of redistribution of wealth (I won't say the word socialism here, it would make the whole forum come crying) because otherwise only the people owning the robots will have anything.
Redistribution of wealth is the most basic ideal of Socialism. So if you are arguing in favor of the redistribution of wealth, then you are a socialist.
In my opinion, the robots must be under the ownership of the state. That will eliminate the possibility of wealth concentrating in the hands of a few individuals.
Communist
Agreed but only if it's developped with some kind of redistribution of wealth (I won't say the word socialism here, it would make the whole forum come crying) because otherwise only the people owning the robots will have anything.
Redistribution of wealth is the most basic ideal of Socialism. So if you are arguing in favor of the redistribution of wealth, then you are a socialist.
In my opinion, the robots must be under the ownership of the state. That will eliminate the possibility of wealth concentrating in the hands of a few individuals.
Taxes + tickets + ads revenues... All of this to pay executives and press relation managers high salaries?
It is Finland sometimes free bus in morning
Pirateparty Finland is saying about this (Free public transport)That's cool but in the morning rush hour alot of revenue will be lost. It doesn't sound like a good idea to me. How do you pay to repair and expand the transportation system? Its best the way it is.
Robots can be built to do all the work, from the mining of the raw materials, to the rolling out of the pavement.
Robots don't need any more than in their "life" than to work. So, they will do all the work for free.
Robots can even repair themselves, and make their own spare parts.
Robots mean freedom for all people.
Probably very nice if our daily work is done by robots, we no longer have to bother doing our daily work. But on the other hand, what should yag humans do if all tasks assigned to a robot? Humans will become more silent and it is not good for health. The human body is designed to always move so that all functions in every organ of the body is not damaged. Because if rarely used, a long time will be damaged and loss of function.
Taxes + tickets + ads revenues... All of this to pay executives and press relation managers high salaries?
It is Finland sometimes free bus in morning
Pirateparty Finland is saying about this (Free public transport)That's cool but in the morning rush hour alot of revenue will be lost. It doesn't sound like a good idea to me. How do you pay to repair and expand the transportation system? Its best the way it is.
Robots can be built to do all the work, from the mining of the raw materials, to the rolling out of the pavement.
Robots don't need any more than in their "life" than to work. So, they will do all the work for free.
Robots can even repair themselves, and make their own spare parts.
Robots mean freedom for all people.
Agreed but only if it's developped with some kind of redistribution of wealth (I won't say the word socialism here, it would make the whole forum come crying) because otherwise only the people owning the robots will have anything.
What does anyone need the things that are considered wealth for, when he can have anything for the asking, free from the robots?
Essentially, robot workers doing everything, is a redistribution of wealth.
Suppose you want all the gold. It doesn't do you any good to sit there an look at it. The same with paper dollars. Even land. You can only live on so much land at a time.
Non-AI robots are the future of wealth by what they will freely give is all.
Taxes + tickets + ads revenues... All of this to pay executives and press relation managers high salaries?
It is Finland sometimes free bus in morning
Pirateparty Finland is saying about this (Free public transport)That's cool but in the morning rush hour alot of revenue will be lost. It doesn't sound like a good idea to me. How do you pay to repair and expand the transportation system? Its best the way it is.
Robots can be built to do all the work, from the mining of the raw materials, to the rolling out of the pavement.
Robots don't need any more than in their "life" than to work. So, they will do all the work for free.
Robots can even repair themselves, and make their own spare parts.
Robots mean freedom for all people.
Agreed but only if it's developped with some kind of redistribution of wealth (I won't say the word socialism here, it would make the whole forum come crying) because otherwise only the people owning the robots will have anything.
Taxes + tickets + ads revenues... All of this to pay executives and press relation managers high salaries?
That obviously depends on the place you are from, in my city buses are free to use for many groups of people. Unemployed, handicapped, caretakers, mothers with children nad so on... only men between 18-55 are required to have a ticket... equality 
Some cities in my state also provide absolutely free public transport but they are in minority as of yet. So it is possible, still can be profitable thanks to adverts and fund's from national budget.
You mean only people between 18-55 no?
Unless you imply all women between 18-55 are mothers with young children?
And your city is strange if the bus is free only for mothers and not fathers...
Because the driver require gasoline, and gasoline could not be obtained for free. Gasoline must be purchased and buy gasoline must use the money. In addition, public transportation management company also bought a vehicle with the money. They also must always fix their vehicles, and repairing vehicles also use the money. buy oil also made money, salaries of employees also made money. So it is natural that public transportation is not free.
In my country travel privilege enjoyed only the disabled and people who have retired. The Government reimburses losses to carriers.
It is very interesting. Can these people make unlimited number of journeys? Or is there a limit in place? If there is no limit, then the private carriers can exploit the government by showing fake travel proofs.
In my country travel privilege enjoyed only the disabled and people who have retired. The Government reimburses losses to carriers.
Public transport isnt free and why. It depends on the country you are in. Well in my country the government calls it as "Economic Enterprise". These are branches of the government who does not rely on the government for the salary of the personnel and the daily operations except for big purchases of course. The pay on this public transport are to be used to pay their personnel, to the maintenance of the terminal and the equipments and others. If these expenses will be taken from the government budget then many sectors of society will be affected in terms of delivery of services due to shortage of funds. So let it be, so that the public transport can sustain on its own while not touching the allotments for service delivery of welfare sectors.
Without a complex system of robots, transportation will never be free. Why not? Because the people that provide the transportation get paid. The only thing that changes from country to country is where they get the money from to pay the transportation workers.
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