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Quote from: varyspro on January 05, 2017, 06:36:28 AM

Students need to do to earn money, and the duty of the state to help them.

Students need to study, and contribute to the society by becoming good employees after their studies. Job and studying will not go together. If the students are forced to work, then their studies will suffer.

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Quote from: bitcoinboy12 on January 05, 2017, 07:53:07 AM

Quote from: varyspro on January 05, 2017, 06:36:28 AM

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Quote from: ThunderCatSteve on December 31, 2016, 11:11:18 AM

Quote from: Masha Sha on September 12, 2016, 02:59:13 AM

Taxes + tickets + ads revenues... All of this to pay executives and press relation managers high salaries?

But it is cheaper than other kind of transport like private taxi or something else but also it is good also for students as far as I know.

They pay much less than people that are non-students and sometimes free within the city but this is based on the city and country.

Obviously, there are people who want to give students free or near free transportation, right? But you can bet your little booties that there are people who DON'T want to give students free or near free transportation.

If I don't want to give students free transportation, then why should I be forced to pay it?

Let the people who want to give free transportation get together under a private organization/operation. Let them pool their money. Let the students that want free transportation apply for it from the private organization. Let the organization give them their free transportation from people who want to give it to them.

Get government's hand out of my pocket, taking my money for things I don't want. The whole thing boils down to government doing freebees so that they have an excuse to take more of my money.

Sometimes, government people are the ONLY people (besides the students) who want to give students free transportation. Let me be free from government. And let me support the things I want, while others can support the things they want.

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I think that the best scenario is to be registered in universities every 3-4 year and get that student ID and travel like a boss.

Its sad to think deeper that it is free for them but someone else should pay them without any profit.

And who will pay for such travel on a student ticket? Why do you think that the state should pay for a free trip, not to feed the homeless for example? Students need to do to earn money, and the duty of the state to help them.

Well if you ask me it will never be actually that easy. Schools won't send you out of the country just for the sake of. They go out of the country not just for vacation but to actually do something there, i don't know, study perhaps?

Study abroad is good, but how students can apply their knowledge in practice? Many countries simply do not have the same level of production and medicine to the returning students could implement what they learned abroad.

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Quote from: varyspro on January 05, 2017, 06:36:28 AM

Quote from: ThunderCatSteve on January 05, 2017, 03:30:43 AM

Quote from: BADecker on January 01, 2017, 02:28:13 PM

Quote from: ThunderCatSteve on December 31, 2016, 11:11:18 AM

Quote from: Masha Sha on September 12, 2016, 02:59:13 AM

Taxes + tickets + ads revenues... All of this to pay executives and press relation managers high salaries?

But it is cheaper than other kind of transport like private taxi or something else but also it is good also for students as far as I know.

They pay much less than people that are non-students and sometimes free within the city but this is based on the city and country.

Obviously, there are people who want to give students free or near free transportation, right? But you can bet your little booties that there are people who DON'T want to give students free or near free transportation.

If I don't want to give students free transportation, then why should I be forced to pay it?

Let the people who want to give free transportation get together under a private organization/operation. Let them pool their money. Let the students that want free transportation apply for it from the private organization. Let the organization give them their free transportation from people who want to give it to them.

Get government's hand out of my pocket, taking my money for things I don't want. The whole thing boils down to government doing freebees so that they have an excuse to take more of my money.

Sometimes, government people are the ONLY people (besides the students) who want to give students free transportation. Let me be free from government. And let me support the things I want, while others can support the things they want.

Cool

I think that the best scenario is to be registered in universities every 3-4 year and get that student ID and travel like a boss.

Its sad to think deeper that it is free for them but someone else should pay them without any profit.

And who will pay for such travel on a student ticket? Why do you think that the state should pay for a free trip, not to feed the homeless for example? Students need to do to earn money, and the duty of the state to help them.

Well if you ask me it will never be actually that easy. Schools won't send you out of the country just for the sake of. They go out of the country not just for vacation but to actually do something there, i don't know, study perhaps?

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Quote from: ThunderCatSteve on January 05, 2017, 03:30:43 AM

Quote from: BADecker on January 01, 2017, 02:28:13 PM

Quote from: ThunderCatSteve on December 31, 2016, 11:11:18 AM

Quote from: Masha Sha on September 12, 2016, 02:59:13 AM

Taxes + tickets + ads revenues... All of this to pay executives and press relation managers high salaries?

But it is cheaper than other kind of transport like private taxi or something else but also it is good also for students as far as I know.

They pay much less than people that are non-students and sometimes free within the city but this is based on the city and country.

Obviously, there are people who want to give students free or near free transportation, right? But you can bet your little booties that there are people who DON'T want to give students free or near free transportation.

If I don't want to give students free transportation, then why should I be forced to pay it?

Let the people who want to give free transportation get together under a private organization/operation. Let them pool their money. Let the students that want free transportation apply for it from the private organization. Let the organization give them their free transportation from people who want to give it to them.

Get government's hand out of my pocket, taking my money for things I don't want. The whole thing boils down to government doing freebees so that they have an excuse to take more of my money.

Sometimes, government people are the ONLY people (besides the students) who want to give students free transportation. Let me be free from government. And let me support the things I want, while others can support the things they want.

Cool

I think that the best scenario is to be registered in universities every 3-4 year and get that student ID and travel like a boss.

Its sad to think deeper that it is free for them but someone else should pay them without any profit.

And who will pay for such travel on a student ticket? Why do you think that the state should pay for a free trip, not to feed the homeless for example? Students need to do to earn money, and the duty of the state to help them.

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Quote from: BADecker on January 01, 2017, 02:28:13 PM

Quote from: ThunderCatSteve on December 31, 2016, 11:11:18 AM

Quote from: Masha Sha on September 12, 2016, 02:59:13 AM

Taxes + tickets + ads revenues... All of this to pay executives and press relation managers high salaries?

But it is cheaper than other kind of transport like private taxi or something else but also it is good also for students as far as I know.

They pay much less than people that are non-students and sometimes free within the city but this is based on the city and country.

Obviously, there are people who want to give students free or near free transportation, right? But you can bet your little booties that there are people who DON'T want to give students free or near free transportation.

If I don't want to give students free transportation, then why should I be forced to pay it?

Let the people who want to give free transportation get together under a private organization/operation. Let them pool their money. Let the students that want free transportation apply for it from the private organization. Let the organization give them their free transportation from people who want to give it to them.

Get government's hand out of my pocket, taking my money for things I don't want. The whole thing boils down to government doing freebees so that they have an excuse to take more of my money.

Sometimes, government people are the ONLY people (besides the students) who want to give students free transportation. Let me be free from government. And let me support the things I want, while others can support the things they want.

Cool

I think that the best scenario is to be registered in universities every 3-4 year and get that student ID and travel like a boss.

Its sad to think deeper that it is free for them but someone else should pay them without any profit.

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Quote from: ThunderCatSteve on December 31, 2016, 11:11:18 AM

But it is cheaper than other kind of transport like private taxi or something else but also it is good also for students as far as I know.

They pay much less than people that are non-students and sometimes free within the city but this is based on the city and country.

In my country also, there are special concessional rates for the students. It is there because some of the poor students can't afford the normal rates. So in the past there were instances of students dropping out of courses due to the unaffordability of conveyance.

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Quote from: ThunderCatSteve on December 31, 2016, 11:11:18 AM

Quote from: Masha Sha on September 12, 2016, 02:59:13 AM

Taxes + tickets + ads revenues... All of this to pay executives and press relation managers high salaries?

But it is cheaper than other kind of transport like private taxi or something else but also it is good also for students as far as I know.

They pay much less than people that are non-students and sometimes free within the city but this is based on the city and country.

Obviously, there are people who want to give students free or near free transportation, right? But you can bet your little booties that there are people who DON'T want to give students free or near free transportation.

If I don't want to give students free transportation, then why should I be forced to pay it?

Let the people who want to give free transportation get together under a private organization/operation. Let them pool their money. Let the students that want free transportation apply for it from the private organization. Let the organization give them their free transportation from people who want to give it to them.

Get government's hand out of my pocket, taking my money for things I don't want. The whole thing boils down to government doing freebees so that they have an excuse to take more of my money.

Sometimes, government people are the ONLY people (besides the students) who want to give students free transportation. Let me be free from government. And let me support the things I want, while others can support the things they want.

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Quote from: Masha Sha on September 12, 2016, 02:59:13 AM

Taxes + tickets + ads revenues... All of this to pay executives and press relation managers high salaries?

But it is cheaper than other kind of transport like private taxi or something else but also it is good also for students as far as I know.

They pay much less than people that are non-students and sometimes free within the city but this is based on the city and country.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on December 31, 2016, 12:09:09 AM

Quote from: ElizabethBespalova on December 30, 2016, 12:48:58 PM

In my opinion public transport simply can't be free because, first of all, such category of service requires certain expenditures, for instance on petrol, bus drivers' engineers' salaries and vehicle maintenance and/or renewal. second of all, according to lies, which our "precious servants of the people" try to feed to us, governments can't provide us with this service for the same reasons, which have been elucidated in the first sentence. and also because public transport usually belongs to private companies Of course everybody (including me) wishes that public transport was free. had it been free, we would be able to save up more money and spend either on clothes, books, music notes, new cello or guitar strings, bouquets or posies for our significant others and music teachers etc.

on the other hand, we just have to find more alternative ways of earning money tax-free or we could strive to become the best at what we do and thus we will be able to earn money and stop wasting out time thinking how everything is expensive and unfair. Life is a cruel mistress, though worth fighting for. I wish all of us luck and more fighting spirit coz there will be a hell of battle in the future and bloodsheds, and triumphs afterwards...

If people avoid using their personal vehicles, and use public transport instead, then the government will be able to save a lot of money. The crude oil import bill will go down, and so will the maintenance bill for the roads.

Government might save some money. But the people won't. Why not? Because the government will tax them to death to pay for public transportation.

If I want to use my walk-a-mobile (feet and legs), and pay for shoes rather than public transportation, why should I be forced to pay for other people riding the bus? Let them pay for the bus, or not ride it, and pay for their own shoes, instead.

Or are you part of government, and want to take my freedom away from me?

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It's isnt free because people working in a public transport need salaries too.

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Because it cost too much to run??? Huh

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Quote from: ElizabethBespalova on December 30, 2016, 12:48:58 PM

In my opinion public transport simply can't be free because, first of all, such category of service requires certain expenditures, for instance on petrol, bus drivers' engineers' salaries and vehicle maintenance and/or renewal. second of all, according to lies, which our "precious servants of the people" try to feed to us, governments can't provide us with this service for the same reasons, which have been elucidated in the first sentence. and also because public transport usually belongs to private companies Of course everybody (including me) wishes that public transport was free. had it been free, we would be able to save up more money and spend either on clothes, books, music notes, new cello or guitar strings, bouquets or posies for our significant others and music teachers etc.

on the other hand, we just have to find more alternative ways of earning money tax-free or we could strive to become the best at what we do and thus we will be able to earn money and stop wasting out time thinking how everything is expensive and unfair. Life is a cruel mistress, though worth fighting for. I wish all of us luck and more fighting spirit coz there will be a hell of battle in the future and bloodsheds, and triumphs afterwards...

If people avoid using their personal vehicles, and use public transport instead, then the government will be able to save a lot of money. The crude oil import bill will go down, and so will the maintenance bill for the roads.

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In my opinion public transport simply can't be free because, first of all, such category of service requires certain expenditures, for instance on petrol, bus drivers' engineers' salaries and vehicle maintenance and/or renewal. second of all, according to lies, which our "precious servants of the people" try to feed to us, governments can't provide us with this service for the same reasons, which have been elucidated in the first sentence. and also because public transport usually belongs to private companies Of course everybody (including me) wishes that public transport was free. had it been free, we would be able to save up more money and spend either on clothes, books, music notes, new cello or guitar strings, bouquets or posies for our significant others and music teachers etc.

on the other hand, we just have to find more alternative ways of earning money tax-free or we could strive to become the best at what we do and thus we will be able to earn money and stop wasting out time thinking how everything is expensive and unfair. Life is a cruel mistress, though worth fighting for. I wish all of us luck and more fighting spirit coz there will be a hell of battle in the future and bloodsheds, and triumphs afterwards...

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Quote from: criptix on December 30, 2016, 10:12:02 AM

Quote from: BADecker on December 30, 2016, 08:49:42 AM

Quote from: criptix on December 30, 2016, 02:33:53 AM

https://farefreepublictransport.com/city/

Free public transport exist and there arent just two cities in east europe that have it

Seems france, poland and the us are pioneers regarding free public transport.

To say it is free, doesn't make it free. Transit workers still get paid.

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Yes of course. But i think "free" public transport would be overall better for our society because more people would use it. Way more efficient then everyone driving in their own car.

Efficient... perhaps.
Effective... probably.
Free... not for somebody who has to depend on the government to do for him what he could do more effectively and efficiently for himself.

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Quote from: BADecker on December 30, 2016, 08:49:42 AM

Quote from: criptix on December 30, 2016, 02:33:53 AM

https://farefreepublictransport.com/city/

Free public transport exist and there arent just two cities in east europe that have it

Seems france, poland and the us are pioneers regarding free public transport.

To say it is free, doesn't make it free. Transit workers still get paid.

Cool

Yes of course. But i think "free" public transport would be overall better for our society because more people would use it. Way more efficient then everyone driving in their own car.

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Quote from: criptix on December 30, 2016, 02:33:53 AM

https://farefreepublictransport.com/city/

Free public transport exist and there arent just two cities in east europe that have it

Seems france, poland and the us are pioneers regarding free public transport.

To say it is free, doesn't make it free. Transit workers still get paid.

Cool

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https://farefreepublictransport.com/city/

Free public transport exist and there arent just two cities in east europe that have it

Seems france, poland and the us are pioneers regarding free public transport.

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Quote from: LTU_btc on December 29, 2016, 05:13:51 PM

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Quote from: mixan on December 29, 2016, 09:06:27 AM

Some parts of the world it is free.
I would take a guess and say Switzerland and Sweden even Denmark since they are the wealthiest nations of the world with not so much debit as USA has.
Even some richer places like Calgary in Canada has free access to their street cars in the metropolitan downtown area.

Public transport is not free in countries such as Switzerland and Denmark, as you have posted. In Sweden also, public transport is free only in three cities (Avesta, Kiruna, and Övertorneå).

Public transport is free in capital of Estonia - Talinn. To use it, people have to be registered in Talinn and buy green card, which costs 2 euro.
https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2016/oct/11/tallinn-experiment-estonia-public-transport-free-cities?

Yes.. In Europe, apart from the few smaller cities, public transport is free in two big cities. Talinn (population of around 500,000) is one of them. The other city is Voronezh (population of 1 million). Unfortunately Prague (population of 1.3 million) no longer offers free public transport, although talks are ongoing to revive it.

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The best things in life are free. Nobody can give you your life back when you die. But you got it free... at least the first time around.

Dumb things like transportation are not free, and often cost a lot. But the important thing - your life - was given to you free.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on December 29, 2016, 10:20:32 AM

Quote from: mixan on December 29, 2016, 09:06:27 AM

Some parts of the world it is free.
I would take a guess and say Switzerland and Sweden even Denmark since they are the wealthiest nations of the world with not so much debit as USA has.
Even some richer places like Calgary in Canada has free access to their street cars in the metropolitan downtown area.

Public transport is not free in countries such as Switzerland and Denmark, as you have posted. In Sweden also, public transport is free only in three cities (Avesta, Kiruna, and Övertorneå).

Public transport is free in capital of Estonia - Talinn. To use it, people have to be registered in Talinn and buy green card, which costs 2 euro.
https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2016/oct/11/tallinn-experiment-estonia-public-transport-free-cities?

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