Topic: Why it's so hard to rank-up? - page 6. (Read 1735 times)

Just like what I've said in the OP, I'm not that active and this is why I'm still stuck from this rank and still not knowledgeable enough about the market. I'm still on a learning process, and there's a lot of good suggestions here which I'm starting to follow slowly but surely. Again, I appreciate everyone's comment here, and yes getting more legit information is east to collect now, I should double my effort on doing this.

Ranking-up isnt hard. As usually, all problems and difficulties comes from the head. If you think it is hard, then it will be hard. Some people come here to chat and managed to get to Hero or Legendary ranks. Some people dont even have deep or unique knowledge about cryptocurrency and manage to get top ranks. Sometimes it is enough to leave sharp, smart, relevant comment to get a merit and start ranking-up. Sometimes you can even be far from crypto, but have high cooking skills (pizza competition) or be creative (drawing competition) to get merit and rank up. The only minor difficulty with ranking is time. I've seen a lot of users with 1000+ merit, but not enough activity to reach highest rank. And since now the amount of new users decreased, good number of old users already reached high ranks, it is much easier than in 2018 to rank up.

Ranking up in the forum is not as difficult as you may have thought. The moment you say it's difficult so it'll be. It's clear that you are not dedicated to giving quality contents to forum members which may have affected your merit count regarding your post counts. Invest 1 hour a day reading a specific topic you wish to share here, the time it took to finish reading or researching on the topic don't matter, but reading daily on a topic for 7 hours which accounts for 7 days if you read about it 1 hr each day, such thread will be quality and intuitive because you understand the topic completely and made it easier for people to grasp new knowledge from the thread. A single post with so much time being invested on could get 20 merits from users that finds it helpful. Ranking up in this forum, the ball is on the users Court, if you want to rank definitely you'll rank, it's not a big deal what matters is that you learn for other to learn too. One good thing about knowledge, Unlike money, when you share knowledge, it increases.

Wdym by general topic? I tell you I rarely research (except checking spelling of words sometimes).

I base my responses on my own past experiences and what could be more concrete than that?

I would like to say Rank Up is not at all too hard. As Many / maximum members with Smerits merit you on your poat if its standard and having something unique it doesn't mean you need to discover something just something not in regular posts.

1: Be Active ( Constant Poster )
2: Post in active Community
3: Try to Post more in Local Board ( Easy to Intrect and earn merit)
4: Follow the Trend

Yes, but being active here in the forum for five years is enough time for someone that is a total novice to the forum to have learned so many things about the forum and how one can contribute positively to the growth of the forum or possibly made good research, gather good information that will solve some problems here. You can share the information you once saw that someone in the forum used to solve a particular problem if you are a good reader or should I say learner and you have nothing to lose hence you reference the original owner of the information, you can also get the information you wish to share on the internet but remember to add the link to the source of the information to avoid plagiarism.

Rank up isn't hard for everyone at all. You have to think about contributions to the forum, not to the rank-up. If you concentrate only rank up then it won't happen. Then it will be a hard task for you. You have to spend enough time on the forum and engage in constructive discussion. Anyone shouldn't expect merits in every topic even if it's good for you. The post wouldn't good for all merit senders. So concentrate only on the contributions to the forum.

Just to give some numeric content to how many accounts have managed to rank-up under the shine of the Merit System, the following table summarized the numbers to date:


See: https://public.tableau.com/views/BitcointalkMeritDashboard/Ranked-up

Both tables are interesting:

The left-hand table shows ho many accounts have managed to rank-up needing Merits from a given initial rank at the time the Merit System was introduced, to their current rank. For example, out of the 204 Legendries that required Merits to rank-up, 57 were Hero Members when the Merit System was introduced, 36 were Sr. Members, and so forth.

The right-hand table indicated how many accounts are still at a given rank, having complied with the Activity counter but not with the Merit counter, and how many complied with both requirements. So for example, out of the 1.813 accounts that reached Sr. Member (needing Merits to do so), 183 have made it to Hero Member, which is 10,09% of the potential set of merited Sr. Member accounts.

It goes without saying that the numbers lack the context of the content being generated by these accounts, the boards where they are posting and so forth, which are fundamentals factors.

Note: Unmerited accounts are not present in the above data.

Older members, myself included, got a head start, but it couldn't be done otherwise. I understand OP's frustration, but I remember the forum back then had plenty of spammers, using terrible English and often posting irrelevant one-liners just to gain activity and rank up. Let me also point out that signature campaigns were much more popular back then, there was an abundance of smaller campaigns, paying significantly less than major competitors, but were still pursued by users who often couldn't get into better campaigns either because of their post quality or due to the limited available slots in major campaigns.

As for me to rank up is simple but the only thing that I can consider that is difficult in the forum to rank up is inactive, when you are not active then nobody will know you, at that you can not rank. I saw some persons that registered with me in the same month of April and today some of them are Jr. member and Member. And the OP you registered in since 2017 and you are still a member. I can say 2 things on you. You were not active or you were a Bounty hunter.

Even inactive accounts can get a Merit.  Even three-line replies can.  I do not reckon me ever checking activity an account before sending Merits for a post, nor do I remember giving them based on how long a reply was.  Very often you can put as much bull shit in a wall style reply as you could in a three-liner.

I think the secret is just being yourself and abstaining from posting in threads where you lack any knowledge besides the very basic common sense and well known information, unless the situation or thread requests this information specifically.  If the topic is about how bad KYC is and you reply saying KYC is bad but with other words, you will not get a Merit and most likely everyone will skip your post.  If you come up with very well structured arguments, I believe your chances increase.

What surprises me is how after so long you are still stuck at a smaller rank than I am and I have been here for just over an year.  From my own experience, I feel like lower ranks are also more incentivized through Merits and the closer you get to Legendary, the harder it will get to earn a Merit and the more original you will have to be.

This is however not the 'recipe of success'.  There is no sure way of how to get a Merit but I personally think that even with a very well structured post per month containing substantial information you can get out of your Member rank in a relatively short span of time.  This requires you taking your time to learn, read and then share your knowledge and thoughts in the relevant threads.

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Regards,
PrivacyG

it will only apply to the general topics being discussed, but for some technical topics that require a little more knowledge there will of course be some little research done.

Relevant spontaneous comments are good, they will only emerge when we have the ability to discuss them.


Starting from scratch when this forum wasn't as crowded as it is now and the signature campaign wasn't very productive.
I remember the first time I was on this forum, I didn't know what to do. Many Bounties I started working on but didn't give any results. Spamming may be unavoidable, due to lack of education from the start. Everything requires a process until I can be like now. Nothing is easy and instant. Everyone has a chance as long as they are willing to try.

Like in all aspects of life, success is not a straight line. There are no shortcuts to success. It's not something that's handed to you on a silver platter, but rather earn it.

There's no easy journey to it. When you begin your journey, it's like you're in a dark tunnel which you may get lost due to uncertainties, obstacles, trials, difficulties, etc., and even experiencing the worst of the worst that may tempt you the most to give up on your goal. It's up to you if you want to keep going or not.

So when it comes to ranking up, you must be willing to grind without any expectations or get something in return like merits, etc. You can't please everybody here. Not everyone will merit your high quality or helpful post. Treat rank and merits as bonus perks or blessings instead. What matters is that when you've finally built your reputation and keep learning from your mistakes and getting better, eventually you'll get there.

Before we're all becoming high-ranked members, we're also like you before who started from scratch. But we grinded, keep giving value to the community without expecting anything in return. Be passionate on what you do. There's always opportunity within the opportunity, if you know how to discover it.

Hope this helps you a bit and good luck!

I  as a newbie may not be in the best position to educate another person on how to rank up but every passing week my impression about this forum evolves i gain more knowledge from the system and it helps me to modify how i put out post constructively, also another thing that has helped me to keep comin back is when i see how my mentor made 40USD and keeps telling me about campaigns it motivates me to keep improving, when i asked him how he grew to the level he is he told me he creates 4 hours every early morning hours and he works in the night too to put out posts whether they merited or not he keeps going...  think if i apply same grit i would get similar result if not better

Yes, there are a lot of older members who may not have earned their forum rank due to the quality of their posts and their contributions to the forum, but they was lucky to have become members before the merits system started and thanks to that they got a higher forum rank, while new members have to work much harder for higher forum ranks.
Because of this, it could be said that the merit system is not fair to the younger members, who joined this forum much later, but on the other hand, thanks to the merits, we were able to separate the quality members from the spammers on this forum, as you said.
No system is obviously perfect, but it is obvious that merits have benefited this forum.

It was about creating topics, but ok.

If something relevant arises in the mind while reading the topic/comment then I comment otherwise move on.

I joined the forum in 2014, had two large periods of inactivity (approximately 3 years away in 2018) while I wasn't active in the first place when I signed up. The merit requirement hadn't taken place back then and managed to rank up till Sr. Member somewhere in 2016 or 2017 if I remember correctly. I re-entered the forum in January 2021, having the 250 base merit due to the Sr. Member rank.

So far, within approximately a year and a half, I've gained exactly 200 merit, requiring only 50 merit for Hero. I agree, ranking up is not an easy purpose, while merit isn't the perfect system by any means, it has successfully got rid of spammers who were unable to rank up and join signature campaigns.

Honestly, I didn't realise you've been here that long. I know I've bumped into this account a few times but didn't know it's nearly as old as mine. I think you should snap out of inactivity and spend some more time here if it won't disrupt your other schedules.

That would even be a very difficult thing to do in real life let alone in a pseudo setting such as this. You better keep your sanity intact by being yourself.

Far from it, ranking up doesn't bestow any reputation on an account. It's what you do in the forum and how credibly or incredibly your interactions are that can do that. Don't blindly trust any high ranking user.

Just take example in business enterprise, you will discover that some were making it while others aren't all because their mentality is different and the approach adopted as well are different, but the fact remains that you can't give less and expect much, the forum has the several advantages you could make good use of, ask me how? There are laid down forum rules and regulations for guiding you on how you're expected to use the forum with your posts being a quality one that could benefit someone with a touch, if they find it interesting they may wish to merit you and you begin to rank up whenever you meet up with the required activities and merits, simple.

Report to the merit source here ^{[especially if you feel the post is worthy]}: [self-moderated] Report unmerited good posts to Merit Source. After all, not all posts have to be rewarded with merit because that's highly unlikely, but you might be able to get 1 merit per day if your posts appear to be of high quality. That's much better than expecting your per post merit ratio to appear 1:1.



Do the opposite and don't give up, one more thing - Don't complain.

Remember this suggestions, that suggestions should be useful to all users hoping to rank up. Just like you, everyone who cares about rank will try their best. Sooner or later you reach rank depends on your ability and consistency to be active, learn and share your knowledge here.