Why not to trade with guaranteed profit?

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Quote from: burnettm on June 16, 2014, 01:45:10 PM

Quote from: chowderman on June 16, 2014, 01:38:13 PM

Learn with this http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KY7WXJU Seat of Your Pants Crypto-currency Trading Guide!!!! You too can trade on your own.

An obvious shill attempt. You might want to proof read your 11 page "book" sometime. Just a single sentence from the preview:

"So, this g guide, its inteent to give aall traders neew and old ssome insight and tools inn order to maake the best decisions poossible in ordder to minimmize your riskk in the tradees you makee".

So in order to reach a massive 11 pages, did you have to insert two pages worth of typos? And why did you choose a picture of a 20+ year old mac for the cover?

Thanks...it was a file type issue from kindle conversion process, and its fixed. Its the same guide that was posted in this forum with over 31k views, its quite well known, your attitude however is not needed, but thanks for pointing out the issue, and now that its fixed if you would kindly delete that review I would appreciate it, considering its false.

Thanks again

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Quote from: burnettm on June 16, 2014, 01:45:10 PM

Quote from: chowderman on June 16, 2014, 01:38:13 PM

Learn with this http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KY7WXJU Seat of Your Pants Crypto-currency Trading Guide!!!! You too can trade on your own.

An obvious shill attempt. You might want to proof read your 11 page "book" sometime. Just a single sentence from the preview:

"So, this g guide, its inteent to give aall traders neew and old ssome insight and tools inn order to maake the best decisions poossible in ordder to minimmize your riskk in the tradees you makee".

So in order to reach a massive 11 pages, did you have to insert two pages worth of typos? And why did you choose a picture of a 20+ year old mac for the cover?

Most "guides" that must be paid for are worthless. The authors/publishers try to get you to think that there is a guaranteed way to make money

burnettm

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Quote from: chowderman on June 16, 2014, 01:38:13 PM

Learn with this http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KY7WXJU Seat of Your Pants Crypto-currency Trading Guide!!!! You too can trade on your own.

An obvious shill attempt. You might want to proof read your 11 page "book" sometime. Just a single sentence from the preview:

"So, this g guide, its inteent to give aall traders neew and old ssome insight and tools inn order to maake the best decisions poossible in ordder to minimmize your riskk in the tradees you makee".

So in order to reach a massive 11 pages, did you have to insert two pages worth of typos? And why did you choose a picture of a 20+ year old mac for the cover?

chowderman

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Why not learn to trade, avoid P&D, avoid schemes and scams, and lower your risk for every trade you make. Learn with this http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KY7WXJU Seat of Your Pants Crypto-currency Trading Guide!!!! You too can trade on your own.

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Quote from: jonald_fyookball on June 15, 2014, 09:18:24 PM

I was talking about how things should be, not necessarily how they are. Obviously there's been many injustices...any idiot can see that.

You keep on dodging the question of how exactly the police, military and courts would operate without violating individual rights.

Quote from: jonald_fyookball on June 15, 2014, 09:18:24 PM

I am of the school of thought of Jefferson (governs least governs best) and Einstein (only justifiable purpose is to ensure unhindered development of individual) If you don't believe in the rule of law of some kind then you believe in anarchy.

So you want the least amount of government, yet are against anarchy.

You are a perfect example of someone experiencing cognitive dissonance.

Quote from: ShakyhandsBTCer on June 15, 2014, 10:02:13 PM

Your posts to not cite any specific facts that dispute what i said.

I did, go back and read my post, or do I need to hold your hand and walk you though it?

Quote from: ShakyhandsBTCer on June 15, 2014, 10:02:13 PM

Please refrain from personal attacks.

Oh noes, I hurt your feelings? On the internet? Who would do such a thing? Hold on, let me find your bottle.

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Quote from: burnettm on June 15, 2014, 06:53:50 PM

Quote from: ShakyhandsBTCer on June 15, 2014, 06:04:54 PM

Criminal cases are ultimately paid for by tax revenue.

No, and if you were to control your autism you would have realized we were discussing civil matters.

Quote from: ShakyhandsBTCer on June 15, 2014, 06:04:54 PM

If you had someone stalking you and needed to take out a restraining order

Why would I want to take out a restraining order? They do nothing to protect you, and SCOTUS has set the precedent that police departments are not obligated to enforce them, see Castle Rock v. Gonzales (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_Rock_v._Gonzales). I have a Kel-Tec RFB, FNH FNP-45 Tactical, Level 3A vest and helmet, SAPI plates, etc.

Quote from: ShakyhandsBTCer on June 15, 2014, 06:04:54 PM

I am not sure what war you are referring to in the most powerful military not being able to conquer a nation of goat herders.

Have you been living under a rock for the past decade?

Quote from: ShakyhandsBTCer on June 15, 2014, 06:04:54 PM

The government contracts private companies to pay build roads, and pays them for their services. Hence the government pays for the roads.

Your autism is strong. Watch this video and it will explain what the government is doing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGS2tKQhdhY

Your posts to not cite any specific facts that dispute what i said.

Please refrain from personal attacks.

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Quote from: burnettm on June 15, 2014, 08:40:08 PM

Now stay mad that you can't say how the police, military and courts dont inherently violate individual rights.

I was talking about how things should be, not necessarily how they are.
Obviously there's been many injustices...any idiot can see that.

Most people believe the government should do all kinds of things like
control education, farming, welfare,etc. I am of the school of thought of
Jefferson (governs least governs best) and Einstein (only justifiable
purpose is to ensure unhindered development of individual)

If you don't believe in the rule of law of some kind then you believe in anarchy.
Whatever, fine. Great.

However, as you seem to only want to argue
and not offer any new ideas or solutions... this will be
my final post on the matter. Have fun.

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Quote from: jonald_fyookball on June 15, 2014, 07:43:57 PM

It's called anarchy. I think they are trying something like that in Somalia.

Anarchy is the form of government in Somilia? Hassan Sheikh Mohamud would disagree with you. Now stay mad that you can't say how the police, military and courts dont inherently violate individual rights.

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Quote from: burnettm on June 15, 2014, 03:16:09 PM

Quote from: jonald_fyookball on June 15, 2014, 07:13:19 AM

I think Courts are also valid.
So are local police protection and army on the national level.

Oh the irony, those are the 3 most often used ways for the government to violate individual rights. But keep on pretending that they are actually there for your protection.

There is a "system" that does without those. It's called anarchy. I think they are trying something like that in Somalia. I heard it's working great.

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Quote from: ShakyhandsBTCer on June 15, 2014, 06:04:54 PM

Criminal cases are ultimately paid for by tax revenue.

No, and if you were to control your autism you would have realized we were discussing civil matters.

Quote from: ShakyhandsBTCer on June 15, 2014, 06:04:54 PM

If you had someone stalking you and needed to take out a restraining order

Why would I want to take out a restraining order? They do nothing to protect you, and SCOTUS has set the precedent that police departments are not obligated to enforce them, see Castle Rock v. Gonzales (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_Rock_v._Gonzales). I have a Kel-Tec RFB, FNH FNP-45 Tactical, Level 3A vest and helmet, SAPI plates, etc.

Quote from: ShakyhandsBTCer on June 15, 2014, 06:04:54 PM

I am not sure what war you are referring to in the most powerful military not being able to conquer a nation of goat herders.

Have you been living under a rock for the past decade?

Quote from: ShakyhandsBTCer on June 15, 2014, 06:04:54 PM

The government contracts private companies to pay build roads, and pays them for their services. Hence the government pays for the roads.

Your autism is strong. Watch this video and it will explain what the government is doing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGS2tKQhdhY

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Quote from: burnettm on June 15, 2014, 03:57:14 AM

Quote from: Harley997 on June 15, 2014, 02:00:43 AM

Without the courts (paid for by taxes)

You've never been involved in a civil case have you? The participants in the case pay court (or arbitration) costs, its not some service you get for free paid for with tax dollars. This ignores other costs or accessibility issues.

Quote from: Harley997 on June 15, 2014, 02:00:43 AM

As far as national defense is concerned, this will likely not be paid for on a voluntarily basis.

Because people cant defend themselves? The worlds most powerful military couldnt conquer a nation of goat herders, in a area smaller than Texas, with a population only 8-9% of the US's and a fraction of the number of arms in private hands.

Quote from: Harley997 on June 15, 2014, 02:00:43 AM

b-b-but muh roads!

Private companies build them, not the government.

Criminal cases are ultimately paid for by tax revenue. You also have "court costs" in civil cases but this will not necessarily pay for all of the costs associated with the case.

If you had someone stalking you and needed to take out a restraining order I doubt you would want to have to wait two weeks to get paid before you can pay the filing fee.

I am not sure what war you are referring to in the most powerful military not being able to conquer a nation of goat herders. I do know that war is much more complicated then that, especially if you are fighting far from where your country is.

Who do you think pays for the roads? For the most part motorists do not pay when they travel on an interstate or a "street" Granted there are some toll roads but they are a minority. The government contracts private companies to pay build roads, and pays them for their services. Hence the government pays for the roads.

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Quote from: jonald_fyookball on June 15, 2014, 07:13:19 AM

I think Courts are also valid.
So are local police protection and army on the national level.

Oh the irony, those are the 3 most often used ways for the government to violate individual rights. But keep on pretending that they are actually there for your protection.

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I think Courts are also valid.
So are local police protection and army on the national level.

Everything else (alphabet agencies, dept of agriculture , dept of education, etc ) you can get rid of as far as I'm concerned.

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Quote from: Harley997 on June 15, 2014, 02:00:43 AM

Without the courts (paid for by taxes)

You've never been involved in a civil case have you? The participants in the case pay court (or arbitration) costs, its not some service you get for free paid for with tax dollars. This ignores other costs or accessibility issues.

Quote from: Harley997 on June 15, 2014, 02:00:43 AM

As far as national defense is concerned, this will likely not be paid for on a voluntarily basis.

Because people cant defend themselves? The worlds most powerful military couldnt conquer a nation of goat herders, in a area smaller than Texas, with a population only 8-9% of the US's and a fraction of the number of arms in private hands.

Quote from: Harley997 on June 15, 2014, 02:00:43 AM

b-b-but muh roads!

Private companies build them, not the government.

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Quote from: jonald_fyookball on June 13, 2014, 08:10:00 PM

Quote from: Harley997 on June 13, 2014, 08:05:18 PM

Quote from: jonald_fyookball on June 10, 2014, 08:58:20 PM

Quote from: Harley997 on June 10, 2014, 08:52:33 PM

Quote from: jonald_fyookball on June 10, 2014, 08:08:38 PM

Quote from: Harley997 on June 10, 2014, 08:07:24 PM

The only two guarantees in life are death and taxes.

i don't agree. I don't think taxes will be around forever.

Taxes will have to be around forever.

If it is not for taxes then there would be no way to pay for things like fire service (fire department), the police, local schools, the interstate system, the military.

Bitcoin will make it much harder to enforce tax laws but the taxes will not ever go away.

I think eventually voluntary fees will replace taxes. Maybe in 300- 500 years. Just my opinion.

Maybe if society changes significantly in that period but society today would never voluntarily pay for things like national defense and consumer protection government agencies. Today the federal government has a program where people can give the government a "gift" and only a few million is sent every year verses a multi trillion dollar annual budget.

Actually, national defense is one of the few services I would voluntarily pay for. That would fall under the proper scope and purpose of government, which is to protect individual rights. I would NOT pay for consumer protection, the IRS, DEA, EPA, INS, SEC, CIA, or any of the other alphabet agencies.

What would you do when you get scammed? Without the courts (paid for by taxes) nor any consumer protections agencies you would have little to no recourse.

As far as national defense is concerned, this will likely not be paid for on a voluntarily basis. The tragedy of the commons would prevent this.

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Quote from: burnettm on June 14, 2014, 05:41:31 PM

Quote from: jonald_fyookball on June 14, 2014, 05:01:01 PM

The purpose of government SHOULD be to protect individual rights. If you have a different idea, feel free to share it.

You can think whatever what you want, but it doesn't change the fact the any act a government would generally perform inherently violates a individuals rights, especially "national defense".

so, then you're an anarchist?

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Quote from: jonald_fyookball on June 14, 2014, 05:01:01 PM

The purpose of government SHOULD be to protect individual rights. If you have a different idea, feel free to share it.

You can think whatever what you want, but it doesn't change the fact the any act a government would generally perform inherently violates a individuals rights, especially "national defense".

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Quote from: burnettm on June 14, 2014, 02:05:14 PM

Quote from: jonald_fyookball on June 13, 2014, 08:10:00 PM

Actually, national defense is one of the few services I would voluntarily pay for.

After reading the list of agencies you enumerated, it is pretty clear that you dont understand what national defense is. It is also aparent that you dont understand what the purpose of government is, if you think it is there to protect individual rights. The only function the government serves is to limit individual rights.

The purpose of government SHOULD be to protect individual rights. If you have a different idea, feel free to share it.

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Quote from: jonald_fyookball on June 13, 2014, 08:10:00 PM

Actually, national defense is one of the few services I would voluntarily pay for.

After reading the list of agencies you enumerated, it is pretty clear that you dont understand what national defense is. It is also aparent that you dont understand what the purpose of government is, if you think it is there to protect individual rights. The only function the government serves is to limit individual rights.

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Quote from: Harley997 on June 13, 2014, 08:05:18 PM

Quote from: jonald_fyookball on June 10, 2014, 08:58:20 PM

Quote from: Harley997 on June 10, 2014, 08:52:33 PM

Quote from: jonald_fyookball on June 10, 2014, 08:08:38 PM

Quote from: Harley997 on June 10, 2014, 08:07:24 PM

The only two guarantees in life are death and taxes.

i don't agree. I don't think taxes will be around forever.

Taxes will have to be around forever.

If it is not for taxes then there would be no way to pay for things like fire service (fire department), the police, local schools, the interstate system, the military.

Bitcoin will make it much harder to enforce tax laws but the taxes will not ever go away.

I think eventually voluntary fees will replace taxes. Maybe in 300- 500 years. Just my opinion.

Maybe if society changes significantly in that period but society today would never voluntarily pay for things like national defense and consumer protection government agencies. Today the federal government has a program where people can give the government a "gift" and only a few million is sent every year verses a multi trillion dollar annual budget.

Actually, national defense is one of the few services I would voluntarily pay for. That would fall under the proper scope and purpose of government, which is to protect individual rights. I would NOT pay for consumer protection, the IRS, DEA, EPA, INS, SEC, CIA, or any of the other alphabet agencies.

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