Topic: Why Online Slots Are Not Provably fair? - page 3. (Read 485 times)

I don't know where people came from saying that slots use tricks because in reality slot games only end with luck, not using tricks or anything, where players just scroll and scroll

slot games do not need strategy or tricks in my opinion it is true that slot games are just a matter of luck. The RTP of the game is not a guarantee that a big win will come. because the concept of a different algorithm slot, just waiting for the time given a big win will happen. but no one knows because they control the machine. there will be time lost and everything will come back

I guess people don't care and they still play the games regardless it can be verified or not, that's it.

I mean like, the gambling providers see there are a lot people gamble on their games, so why they need to bother and put extra work, right? if many gamblers start to avoid playing in games that can't be verified, they would do something in order to strengthen their transparency and get more gamblers.

Even if that is not true, your statement reveals a widespread belief in this idea. This further strengthens the need for a provably fair system.

Yeah! exactly I too wonder why slot providers are not seeing it as a opportunity to build reputation and transparency.

I was talking about the top 10 online slot providers. I'm not arguing that if you implement provably fair, the house will lose its edge. No, you will still lose, but at least there will be no doubt about manipulations.

And how did you arrive at this conclusion? How do you know their payouts are fairly randomized? Do you trust third party regulators more than your own judgment?

I am not complaining about any loses. My effort is to build more transparency in crypto gambling at the same time boosting confidence in players. And no one just 'thinks' they are NOT Provably Fair.  

RTP and house edge are essentially the same concept. They both refer to the mathematical advantage a casino has over a player in a game.

I am not think much about that because slot game is one of gambling games which is based on the luck. You don't have to think much about provably fair or not because that will make you can not accept when you lose your money. That will make you search for how to verify the game and you will not enjoy the game because you always think about provably fair.

Gamblers will think about how they can win the slot game and how they can withdraw their money. Maybe some gamblers will trying to verify the provably fair but they should remember that will need time before they can prove it.

Aren't these two sides of the same coin, though? I had always thought both concepts were equivalent, although expressed in a different wat. That is, if you're talking about a house edge of 2% is the same as a return to player of 98%.

Slots are not provably fair because they don't offer a House Edge, what they offer is an RTP better known as Return To Player, that way they ensure the house always wins, and that's what the slots provider really offers. An engine that will give profit even if the gambler is lucky as hell. With provably fair games the house can get in trouble or in debt if the gambler is a high roller and luck is on his side, that way the gambler can leave the casino in red numbers, but that will not happen on slots because when a player wins big then the slot will start filling the bag again before pay a big win again.

It's based on RTP (Return to Player), and yeah, there are ways to check if they are probably fair, but I guess there are players that really can't take it. That they are losing and blame everything except themselves.

I know the feeling mate of losing, but we should know that there is also this element of luck, that maybe that one spin will make your rich as you will hit the jackpot. Or you are unlucky that you lost and you think that the game are not provably fair.

Discussing slot gambling, in my opinion this one game is quite fair on the other hand, although players will only experience more defeats, but that is a natural thing because it has become a fixed rule that players only have a little chance of winning and vice versa for casino owners have a greater chance of winning, this is not the same but this has become a fair provision, because no one can be superior to the casino.
Now slot games that are widely played by the community must be one thing that is no longer foreign, some of those who gamble with the aim of making money will definitely think this game is unfair because they lose more money than they bet, but that will not change anything. Fair or unfair depends on each person's perception, the most important thing is not to overdo it.

if I remember correctly, some gambling houses offer "provably fair" slots (specific to the crypto gambling). There is not only BCgame...

In my country, each game is registered to a sort of monopoly that allows to verify the integrity of the game... I have never heard of fraud, in the end they would always win they don't need to cheat

That's a reasonable argument when it comes to the health of online slot operators. Technology that might prove unfair to most professional healers has certainly induced skepticism among players. Especially when they see it work properly in other types of games, like say world games, the ability for players to be able to verify results without being forced to blindly trust them will certainly help increase trust and credibility. It is interesting to see why such companies like Pragmatic and Microgaming haven't leveraged these opportunities. Because it can be the difference in a very competitive market. Maybe it's a matter of culture or the difficulty of integrating new technology with old systems. Calling for third-party audits and a fair system isn't something wrong to ask. It is a practical step that leads to greater healing. What are your opinions regarding how this transition would change the outlook of participants toward online platforms?


That is really a good remark on the type of slot games since they are also games of chance. Of course, these are all for fun. And the risks involved are part of the experience. Even though employees tend to watch over the game and can influence the outcome. Transparency, nevertheless still plays its part as far as the confidence of players is concerned. I thank you for your advice regarding the proper way to play the game and not so much gamble. This is because this is critical to maintaining a positive experience. Lastly, knowing that slots are at the same time fun and dangerous can help a person to increase his expectations.

Dude, you have to understand that slots are games and slots are gambling, what you expect can lead you to disappointment, that's for sure, you might not believe me if I say that slots are controlled by gambling operators, However you think the slot is fair it is fair, unfair is unfair.

Slot gambling is indeed a type of game that is often played throughout the world, because the payment system is quite tempting, but behind all that we have to understand that slot games are one of the games that often drain users' money, The operators who control slots are really professionals, they know which users are being given justice or which ones they are destroying, my advice is to play slots with medium capacity, don't place bets too high.

I do not think the majority of online slot providers are provably fair (please correct me if I am wrong). As per my research, only BGaming (among the top 10 slot providers) allows you to verify slot outcomes using provably fair technology. Most of them claim to have third-party verification, but there is no way for a player to verify. Why aren't major slot providers like Pragmatic, Hacksaw, Microgaming, etc. adopting this system? It would only boost their credibility and transparency.
I mean, there is a widespread belief that online slots are rigged, but no one says that about dice games because of provably fair technology, so why not do the same for slots? I am not saying third-party test labs are not doing their jobs; all I am saying is that there is no way for a player to verify (which could easily be done using provably fair technology), so why not have both? Or am I asking too much? . I mean, come on, we all had this feeling;