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June 15, 2014, 12:57:44 AM

Which is funny, because this is the guy who tweeted that LibertyCoin had hidden coins due to MAX_MONEY just a few weeks ago.  Then he started backpedaling.  I wanted to thank him because it lead to a certain douchenozzle named IconicExpert making even more of a liar and fool out of himself.
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June 15, 2014, 12:53:46 AM
if polo raise the bar and do retro review. 80% will be delisted, and most new will not be added.

And the crypto world would move on without polo.
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jakiman is back!
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June 15, 2014, 12:51:48 AM
if polo raise the bar and do retro review. 80% will be delisted, and most new will not be added.
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June 15, 2014, 12:46:11 AM


 Kiss

I don't see this tweet on his page.
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June 15, 2014, 12:44:49 AM
What's done is done.

Busoni posted false information leading to poloniex losing a lot of respect and potential income today.
I'm sure he had good intentions. It just wasn't correct in this instance.

I just hope he admits his mistake. That's all.
Once he does,  we can all move along.
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June 15, 2014, 12:40:56 AM
The stupid in this thread is so thick you can cut it with a knife.
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June 15, 2014, 12:40:34 AM
ALMOST 70% OF TRADING COIN ON POLONIEX will be delisted according to BUSONI's new standard!


applaud to that!!!


bump.
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June 15, 2014, 12:32:00 AM


 Kiss
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June 15, 2014, 12:31:52 AM
Poloniex has decided not to list SuperCoin because of some disturbing things we turned up in our code review. I would like to draw your attention to this part of the ANN post:

Quote
- Total PoW coins will be 18.2 millions.
- Total coins (including PoS) will be about 50,000,000.

And these parts of the source code:

Code:
if (dAmount <= 0.0 || dAmount > 150000000.0)

Code:
static const int64_t MAX_MONEY = 150000000 * COIN;
static const int64_t POW_MAX_MONEY = 50000000 * COIN;

MAX_MONEY is pretty much what it sounds like. This means that the actual maximum supply of SuperCoin is 150 million, not 50 million. Furthermore, the maximum PoW coins is 50 million, rather than the claimed 18.2 million. The 150 million number appears twice in the code, so it can hardly be considered an accident.

We did not find evidence of an existing hidden premine, but extra coins could potentially be minted all at once at the end of the PoW phase, sent to exchanges via the "anon" feature, and dumped.

We have other concerns about the coin, particularly concerning the proposed method of anonymity, but the shenanigans with the maximum supply is sufficient for us to reject this coin.

why did not you try to contact me before for explanation

why would he ?

you posted false information and you knew it and your behavior backs his point.
you are playing the angle that what you did (which you are admitting to) was a part of a bigger plan.. EXCUSE = AFTER THE FACT
i suspect you had no plan and coincidentally made this up as an excuse because you were caught red handed mid-scam.
What i am pointing out here is real world common sense and very real plausibility.
It's simply ridiculous bullshit in my eyes he catches you screwing around and you decide to cover it up and say oh well well well.. with excuses
and then try and shift the blame squarely on him and only him..
when the blame is yours and yours alone coin cloner.
he was just doing his job.. and you were not doing yours !

keep up the spin.. but bear in mind only so many of us here are your gullible patsy's
and people have you not noticed how ballsy these cloners have gotten with coding in cheats ?
we have already caught a lot of these guys pulling scammy stunts with code
and this new random coin named coin cloner is saying.. oh well i'm different..
LOL sure you are.. if you were different you would not have gotten caught period.
And you wouldn't be involved in any other coins wrapped up in scams now would ya ?
For example the very coin your coin was cloned from that i couldn't even get the get the GitHub code too (deleted Github Repo / because of drama)
Honorcoin.. i don't suppose you were behind that drama too were you ?
Hmm kinda funny you chose that Altcoin of ALL altcoins out there to clone for your new "honest" coin lol
hmm i guess it's just a coincidence huh ? all them conspiracy guys are picking on me boo hoooooooooo

Coin cloner and no i will not call you "dev" you didn't earn the title as far as i am concerned.
You can man up and accept blame FOR YOUR ACTIONS.
And stop trying to blame busoni for your dumb bs you got caught pulling..
You have lost even more respect from many us by trying to pin the blame on him.
Take your shitty doomed and destroyed anonymous scam coin and fuck off please.

If it walks like a duck.. sounds like a duck.. then quit flying south for winter saying it's a coincidence..
Quuuuaaaaaaaaaaaacccccckkkkkkkkk

Your response while everyone insisted you were "sleeping" here makes me sick !

Now that is what you call both barrels, you summed that up so eloquently, I could help but quote it Thank you
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June 15, 2014, 12:30:09 AM
Poloniex has decided not to list SuperCoin because of some disturbing things we turned up in our code review. I would like to draw your attention to this part of the ANN post:

Quote
- Total PoW coins will be 18.2 millions.
- Total coins (including PoS) will be about 50,000,000.

And these parts of the source code:

Code:
if (dAmount <= 0.0 || dAmount > 150000000.0)

Code:
static const int64_t MAX_MONEY = 150000000 * COIN;
static const int64_t POW_MAX_MONEY = 50000000 * COIN;

MAX_MONEY is pretty much what it sounds like. This means that the actual maximum supply of SuperCoin is 150 million, not 50 million. Furthermore, the maximum PoW coins is 50 million, rather than the claimed 18.2 million. The 150 million number appears twice in the code, so it can hardly be considered an accident.

We did not find evidence of an existing hidden premine, but extra coins could potentially be minted all at once at the end of the PoW phase, sent to exchanges via the "anon" feature, and dumped.

We have other concerns about the coin, particularly concerning the proposed method of anonymity, but the shenanigans with the maximum supply is sufficient for us to reject this coin.

why did not you try to contact me before for explanation

why would he ?

you posted false information and you knew it and your behavior backs his point.
you are playing the angle that what you did (which you are admitting to) was a part of a bigger plan.. EXCUSE = AFTER THE FACT
i suspect you had no plan and coincidentally made this up as an excuse because you were caught red handed mid-scam.
What i am pointing out here is real world common sense and very real plausibility.
It's simply ridiculous bullshit in my eyes he catches you screwing around and you decide to cover it up and say oh well well well.. with excuses
and then try and shift the blame squarely on him and only him..
when the blame is yours and yours alone coin cloner.
he was just doing his job.. and you were not doing yours !

keep up the spin.. but bear in mind only so many of us here are your gullible patsy's
and people have you not noticed how ballsy these cloners have gotten with coding in cheats ?
we have already caught a lot of these guys pulling scammy stunts with code
and this new random coin named coin cloner is saying.. oh well i'm different..
LOL sure you are.. if you were different you would not have gotten caught period.
And you wouldn't be involved in any other coins wrapped up in scams now would ya ?
For example the very coin your coin was cloned from that i couldn't even get the get the GitHub code too (deleted Github Repo / because of drama)
Honorcoin.. i don't suppose you were behind that drama too were you ?
Hmm kinda funny you chose that Altcoin of ALL altcoins out there to clone for your new "honest" coin lol
hmm i guess it's just a coincidence huh ? all them conspiracy guys are picking on me boo hoooooooooo

Coin cloner and no i will not call you "dev" you didn't earn the title as far as i am concerned.
You can man up and accept blame FOR YOUR ACTIONS.
And stop trying to blame busoni for your dumb bs you got caught pulling..
You have lost even more respect from many us by trying to pin the blame on him.
Take your shitty doomed and destroyed anonymous scam coin and fuck off please.

If it walks like a duck.. sounds like a duck.. then quit flying south for winter saying it's a coincidence..
Quuuuaaaaaaaaaaaacccccckkkkkkkkk

Your response while everyone insisted you were "sleeping" here makes me sick !

You do realize by now that MAX_MONEY is a poorly-named identifier?  It does not limit the number of coins.  If dude was trying to do what you're accusing him of trying to do, then he's ignorant.  Not implying that you're ignorant, but if it quacks like a duck...  
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June 15, 2014, 12:26:40 AM
why did not you try to contact me before for explanation

why would he ?

you posted false information and you knew it and your behavior backs his point.
He didn't post false information... Busoni and obviously you do not understand the bitcoin source code apparently.  MAX_COINS is totally irrelevant and the OP is garbage.

I'm going to clue in that Spoetnik is an idiot troll tho, and just put him on ignore.

Busoni certainly appears to have jumped the gun on this one.  Initially I was encouraged by the fact they are reviewing source code... but as I thought about it and looked at the code myself, I realized Busoni and Poloniex to be unprofessional fools.

---

This said, I would never use SUPER because of the anon method they have apparently chosen to pursue...

Ring signatures for spends and stealth addresses for receiving payments - this is what a good anonymous solution looks like.
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June 15, 2014, 12:25:28 AM
Poloniex has decided not to list SuperCoin because of some disturbing things we turned up in our code review. I would like to draw your attention to this part of the ANN post:

Quote
- Total PoW coins will be 18.2 millions.
- Total coins (including PoS) will be about 50,000,000.

And these parts of the source code:

Code:
if (dAmount <= 0.0 || dAmount > 150000000.0)

Code:
static const int64_t MAX_MONEY = 150000000 * COIN;
static const int64_t POW_MAX_MONEY = 50000000 * COIN;

MAX_MONEY is pretty much what it sounds like. This means that the actual maximum supply of SuperCoin is 150 million, not 50 million. Furthermore, the maximum PoW coins is 50 million, rather than the claimed 18.2 million. The 150 million number appears twice in the code, so it can hardly be considered an accident.

We did not find evidence of an existing hidden premine, but extra coins could potentially be minted all at once at the end of the PoW phase, sent to exchanges via the "anon" feature, and dumped.

We have other concerns about the coin, particularly concerning the proposed method of anonymity, but the shenanigans with the maximum supply is sufficient for us to reject this coin.

why did not you try to contact me before for explanation

why would he ?

you posted false information and you knew it and your behavior backs his point.
you are playing the angle that what you did (which you are admitting to) was a part of a bigger plan.. EXCUSE = AFTER THE FACT
i suspect you had no plan and coincidentally made this up as an excuse because you were caught red handed mid-scam.
What i am pointing out here is real world common sense and very real plausibility.
It's simply ridiculous bullshit in my eyes he catches you screwing around and you decide to cover it and say oh well well well.. with excuses
and then try and shift the blame squarely on him and only him..
when the blame is yours and yours alone coin cloner.

keep up the spin.. but bear in mind only so many of us here are your gullible patsy's
and people have you not noticed how ballsy these cloners have gotten with coding in cheats ?
we have already caught a lot of these guys pulling scammy stunts with code
and this new random coin named coin cloner is saying.. oh well i'm different..
LOL sure you are.. if you were different you would not have gotten caught period.
And you wouldn't be involved in any other coins wrapped up in scams now would ya ?
For example the very coin your coin was cloned from that i couldn't even get the get the GitHub code too (deleted Github Repo / because of drama)
Honorcoin.. i don't suppose you were behind that drama too were you ?
Hmm kinda funny you chose that Altcoin of ALL altcoins out there to clone for your new "honest" coin lol
hmm i guess it's just a coincidence huh ? all them conspiracy guys are picking on me boo hoooooooooo

Coin cloner and no i will not call you "dev" you didn't earn the title as far as i am concerned.
You can man up and accept blame FOR YOUR ACTIONS.
And stop trying to blame busoni for your dumb bs you got caught pulling..
You have lost even more respect from many us by trying to pin the blame on him.
Take your shitty doomed and destroyed anonymous scam coin and fuck off please.

If it walks like a duck.. sounds like a duck.. then quit flying south for winter saying it's a coincidence..
Quuuuaaaaaaaaaaaacccccckkkkkkkkk

Your response while everyone insisted you were "sleeping" here makes me sick !

You are losing respect with every post also imo.

He didn't get caught with anything. Did you even read what that code means?
It showed that busoni jumped the gun on a piece of code that meant nothing.

Every coin including Bitcoin can become a scam overnight by a hard fork from its trusted devs.
legendary
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June 15, 2014, 12:20:51 AM
Poloniex has decided not to list SuperCoin because of some disturbing things we turned up in our code review. I would like to draw your attention to this part of the ANN post:

Quote
- Total PoW coins will be 18.2 millions.
- Total coins (including PoS) will be about 50,000,000.

And these parts of the source code:

Code:
if (dAmount <= 0.0 || dAmount > 150000000.0)

Code:
static const int64_t MAX_MONEY = 150000000 * COIN;
static const int64_t POW_MAX_MONEY = 50000000 * COIN;

MAX_MONEY is pretty much what it sounds like. This means that the actual maximum supply of SuperCoin is 150 million, not 50 million. Furthermore, the maximum PoW coins is 50 million, rather than the claimed 18.2 million. The 150 million number appears twice in the code, so it can hardly be considered an accident.

We did not find evidence of an existing hidden premine, but extra coins could potentially be minted all at once at the end of the PoW phase, sent to exchanges via the "anon" feature, and dumped.

We have other concerns about the coin, particularly concerning the proposed method of anonymity, but the shenanigans with the maximum supply is sufficient for us to reject this coin.

why did not you try to contact me before for explanation

why would he ?

you posted false information and you knew it and your behavior backs his point.
you are playing the angle that what you did (which you are admitting to) was a part of a bigger plan.. EXCUSE = AFTER THE FACT
i suspect you had no plan and coincidentally made this up as an excuse because you were caught red handed mid-scam.
What i am pointing out here is real world common sense and very real plausibility.
It's simply ridiculous bullshit in my eyes he catches you screwing around and you decide to cover it up and say oh well well well.. with excuses
and then try and shift the blame squarely on him and only him..
when the blame is yours and yours alone coin cloner.
he was just doing his job.. and you were not doing yours !

keep up the spin.. but bear in mind only so many of us here are your gullible patsy's
and people have you not noticed how ballsy these cloners have gotten with coding in cheats ?
we have already caught a lot of these guys pulling scammy stunts with code
and this new random coin named coin cloner is saying.. oh well i'm different..
LOL sure you are.. if you were different you would not have gotten caught period.
And you wouldn't be involved in any other coins wrapped up in scams now would ya ?
For example the very coin your coin was cloned from that i couldn't even get the get the GitHub code too (deleted Github Repo / because of drama)
Honorcoin.. i don't suppose you were behind that drama too were you ?
Hmm kinda funny you chose that Altcoin of ALL altcoins out there to clone for your new "honest" coin lol
hmm i guess it's just a coincidence huh ? all them conspiracy guys are picking on me boo hoooooooooo

Coin cloner and no i will not call you "dev" you didn't earn the title as far as i am concerned.
You can man up and accept blame FOR YOUR ACTIONS.
And stop trying to blame busoni for your dumb bs you got caught pulling..
You have lost even more respect from many us by trying to pin the blame on him.
Take your shitty doomed and destroyed anonymous scam coin and fuck off please.

If it walks like a duck.. sounds like a duck.. then quit flying south for winter saying it's a coincidence..
Quuuuaaaaaaaaaaaacccccckkkkkkkkk

Your response while everyone insisted you were "sleeping" here makes me sick !
legendary
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June 15, 2014, 12:20:27 AM
As mentioned earlier, max coins mean nothing if the coin generation formula stops earlier. There is no magic way for the dev to create coins out of thin air and if it was a case of doing it with a hard fork, he could update the number of coins as well.

However, it is the right of an exchange to list whatever coins they want and not list those that look shady to them for whatever reason. It is also their right to say why they reject a coin - no matter if it "hurts" the market or not. If a coin is vulnerable to critique of this kind, perhaps it's not so good of a coin anyway.
sr. member
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June 15, 2014, 12:19:52 AM
All you guys screaming bloody murder about lost funds, where just waiting to dump your bags Monday when it was listed, so some noob is fleeced, and you move onto the next coin,
I lost money on super, but its not the first time and i know its not going to be the last time, But good on you Busoni ! the flow of shit must be stopped, No one is game to buy a coin with the intention of holding it.
Only so many currencies can be supported, some have got to go, If it is not above board, why not make this the first one, you gotta start somewhere!!
legendary
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jakiman is back!
June 15, 2014, 12:12:27 AM
Busoni should just admit his mistake and update the thread type and op with an apology. Simple.
legendary
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103 days, 21 hours and 10 minutes.
June 15, 2014, 12:06:57 AM
Busoni fucked up big time. 

Isn't poloniex/Busoni in the US?
legendary
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June 15, 2014, 12:05:37 AM
ALMOST 70% OF TRADING COIN ON POLONIEX will be delisted according to BUSONI's new standard!


applaud to that!!!
legendary
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June 15, 2014, 12:03:26 AM
It seems the super community is asking for busoni/polx to sadd SUPER
If & when busoni adds Super will it help compensate for the things already done?


My clients did what  any reasonable investor would do with half a brain perform
Due diligence before making any decisions.

They also felt what busoni did may have been a "bit pre-mature",
but not without giving him the recognition he deserves
For lookin into something that may have seem a bit suspect.  

the code busoni found in super coin, was also found in cinni and silk coin he added them no problem

You're timing is off just a bit. SC and CINNI added before their proclaimation of checking coin code/due diligence.

and BUSONI said he will review CINNI and SC. they will have problem once BUSONI caught them!
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