Why price down after listing in exchanges - page 11.

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Quote from: benycoin on September 23, 2019, 10:48:30 AM

We always see the price rise for a short period after the listing in the exchanges or after IEO, but soon price be come down,
this may due to two reasons:
The first reason is that the coin or token has no real value.
The second reason is the large sale of those who got his coin free such as airdrop.
Isn't that true?

It's true that the coin or token don't have a real value. And some people acquired this in airdrop or bounty. But the main reason is the project has no future. Or the team only wants to gain money from it.

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Quote from: benycoin on September 23, 2019, 10:48:30 AM

We always see the price rise for a short period after the listing in the exchanges or after IEO, but soon price be come down,
this may due to two reasons:
The first reason is that the coin or token has no real value.
The second reason is the large sale of those who got his coin free such as airdrop.
Isn't that true?

It is not in the 2 reasons that you set out. I have my own opinion and want to share with you.
Since tokens are heavily depreciated after being listed on exchange, the only major factor is that the CEO no longer cares about the value of the tokens.
There have long been many types of projects that only need to get money from investors, they will focus on product development and business, then use profits to feed the business.
This situation happens to happen in a project that I have invested, which is Current. Currently a pretty big music app in the US and some neighboring countries. but for nearly 2 years, they have been constantly delaying the token distribution and seem to want to evade us for this. they're selfish and just thinking for themselves, and we can't sue them because we're not in America. Those CEOs only see investors as a stepping stone for them and they just need to use our money and not give us any value. because there is no binding financial statement or quarterly profit distribution when investing. That is also the biggest flaw of IEO or ICO.

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Quote from: nanaimogold on September 28, 2019, 04:59:53 PM

Quote from: benycoin on September 23, 2019, 10:48:30 AM

We always see the price rise for a short period after the listing in the exchanges or after IEO, but soon price be come down,
this may due to two reasons:
The first reason is that the coin or token has no real value.
The second reason is the large sale of those who got his coin free such as airdrop.
Isn't that true?

The market conditions are generally poor and cryptocurrency traders are not happy buying at the moment. So this causes a general poor volume flowing towards newly listed altcoins also, the high bonuses given to investors makes them dump easily at exchange listing. To add salt to the injury would be if the developers distribute airdrop or bounty rewards too at listing Wink

It`s like that when we have so many new projects around, and to many traders. Where are the people who invest
and hold?
New projects can do much in short period of time, how to develop so fast? Early investors, bounty hunters, and all
others who have coins create a massive dump, supply goes to sky and without demand price must go down.
I have many coins/tokens that worth less then before, but I have faith in those projects in long-term, they will recover
their prices and rise more, when they become fully developed.

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Quote from: benycoin on September 23, 2019, 10:48:30 AM

We always see the price rise for a short period after the listing in the exchanges or after IEO, but soon price be come down,
this may due to two reasons:
The first reason is that the coin or token has no real value.
The second reason is the large sale of those who got his coin free such as airdrop.
Isn't that true?

The market conditions are generally poor and cryptocurrency traders are not happy buying at the moment. So this causes a general poor volume flowing towards newly listed altcoins also, the high bonuses given to investors makes them dump easily at exchange listing. To add salt to the injury would be if the developers distribute airdrop or bounty rewards too at listing Wink

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Quote from: benycoin on September 23, 2019, 10:48:30 AM

The second reason is the large sale of those who got his coin free such as airdrop.
Isn't that true?

Yes, this is true. Also those rewards from bounties such as signature or even social media campaigns give lot of coins to those users whom completed those bounties. They literally can get 1% of the reserved pool just from bounties and when those coins listed on exchange, it would make a slightly impact to the market.

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The factor of a large bonus when they make sales offers is one of the reasons why prices have dropped quite large, even up to more than 70%. As a result, the team that is too big in offering the actual bonus offer is also not very good for the system

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Quote from: jaocoincrypto18 on September 28, 2019, 01:08:20 AM

Most of the participants and investors are don't think of the beauty of the token commodities anymore but they are more on sure earnings by dumping their huge bonuses during the sales and also i have heard that some of the token owners are dumping first to cover their operation expenses and to keep their sure earnings.

Some are really buying new tokens because they want to earn easy money and when he exchange listing begin they will sell right away. If the price falls and become a shitcoin then its not the problem of the bounty anymore, its the failure of the team. I also sell tokens after the exchange listing because that’s the best way to enjoy your hard work.

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Quote from: benycoin on September 23, 2019, 10:48:30 AM

We always see the price rise for a short period after the listing in the exchanges or after IEO, but soon price be come down,
this may due to two reasons:
The first reason is that the coin or token has no real value.
The second reason is the large sale of those who got his coin free such as airdrop.
Isn't that true?

You are very right on point bro, these are the two major things that is responsible for the death of some of these coins, the product they release into the market does not have real value, and so, it does not become attractive to users other than investors and the time it only become attractive to investors is when they offer them that huge reward they normally get on their purchase.

I think that that reward is exactly what crashes the price more especially the reward of those that participate in the pre ICO, that amount they give is more than enough for the profit alone to crash the whole market talk less of the main capital that they have invested heavily in the market, and until this reward of a thing stop before dumping can reduce and market become stable.

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Quote from: benycoin on September 23, 2019, 10:48:30 AM

We always see the price rise for a short period after the listing in the exchanges or after IEO, but soon price be come down,
this may due to two reasons:
The first reason is that the coin or token has no real value.
The second reason is the large sale of those who got his coin free such as airdrop.
Isn't that true?

The second reason is the main thing why pice are dropping after listing in exchange because huge dumping is happening right after the very moment it was listed

The first reason for me is the main reason why the coin/token is slowly dying time after time because of the truth that it has no value and needed to be eliminated from the list so it won’t victimized others as this can be used by pump and dump team

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Quote from: benycoin on September 23, 2019, 10:48:30 AM

We always see the price rise for a short period after the listing in the exchanges or after IEO, but soon price be come down,
this may due to two reasons:
The first reason is that the coin or token has no real value.
The second reason is the large sale of those who got his coin free such as airdrop.
Isn't that true?

There is little chance that the second section could cause it. The loss of value due to the airdrop makes project one of the weakest in the market.
But the first part is closer to reality. When the project is launched, they have goals to keep it up and if that goal is too far away, why would someone need it? lack of demand also cause the price to fall many times.

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This is the reality when you invested on a startup project, which also makes it difficult for the investor as they have no assurance of what the price will be after it hits exchanges because of the volatility of the market. There are token offerings though that lets you buy unlocked quality coins on a discounted price, that way, you'll immediately know what the existing price is but at the same time, get it super cheap.

But in terms of getting profits, the dev team should also do their part in terms of delivering certain parts of their roadmap in order to get the value up and make their investors happy atleast.

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Quote from: jaocoincrypto18 on September 28, 2019, 01:08:20 AM

Most of the participants and investors are don't think of the beauty of the token commodities anymore but they are more on sure earnings by dumping their huge bonuses during the sales and also i have heard that some of the token owners are dumping first to cover their operation expenses and to keep their sure earnings.

I think that is a reasonable action. investors will secure their money quickly, what more is there a big possibility that dump will happen again when there is a bounty token distributed. and for smart investors they will wait for that moment to go back to buying coins that have gone through the dump. of course at prices lower than the purchase price of their ICO.

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Bounty hunters work to earn coins and make sense if they will sell the coins they earn. And I think this is inevitable. But not completely blame the bounty hunter, you should also look at the actual condition of the project. Maybe because they don't have a good strategy in developing the project.

All projects if it has an excellent development, if the price decreases, surely the price will be back up. It may be noteworthy also for those holders with a large number of coins, such as investors.

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Most of the participants and investors are don't think of the beauty of the token commodities anymore but they are more on sure earnings by dumping their huge bonuses during the sales and also i have heard that some of the token owners are dumping first to cover their operation expenses and to keep their sure earnings.

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Quote from: benycoin on September 23, 2019, 10:48:30 AM

We always see the price rise for a short period after the listing in the exchanges or after IEO, but soon price be come down,
this may due to two reasons:
The first reason is that the coin or token has no real value.
The second reason is the large sale of those who got his coin free such as airdrop.
Isn't that true?

Your two observations are all correct but there are still a lot of factors like some bounty hunters dumping their shares, we cannot blame them it's not easy promoting a project daily for several months, they reward themselves for their hard work, so they dump a small portion.
Early birds investors those who bought in the presales with bonus, who want to take a portion of their investment this early in case the project did not live up to it's potential.

But the worst scenario is the team dumping their unsold tokens, after the crowdfunding the team has nothing to do with the market, it should be investors who will play the market, and they have to go to work and set up the project.

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Quote from: benycoin on September 23, 2019, 10:48:30 AM

We always see the price rise for a short period after the listing in the exchanges or after IEO, but soon price be come down,
this may due to two reasons:
The first reason is that the coin or token has no real value.
The second reason is the large sale of those who got his coin free such as airdrop.
Isn't that true?

That airdrop is meant to be sold in the first place because they have the right to do it but I do believe that airdrop are not responsible for the plummeting of coins. The total value of airdrops are very low that it does not have a significant change in the value of the token if they all sell. And the IEO, their pump machine does not work anymore and people got burned so hard in their last participation even in the top and reputable exchanges that launch it so they now go down instantly or your first reason just perfectly describe the coin.

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Quote from: benycoin on September 23, 2019, 10:48:30 AM

We always see the price rise for a short period after the listing in the exchanges or after IEO, but soon price be come down,
this may due to two reasons:
The first reason is that the coin or token has no real value.
The second reason is the large sale of those who got his coin free such as airdrop.
Isn't that true?

You're right, there are few reasons why the coins are dumping after getting listed in exchanges.

Usually hunters are selling their coins to take advantage while it has still value and some investors are dumping as well if they didnt see any progress in the project.

I think its a human nature to sell especially if you only got your tokens for free.

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Truth.
Basically the first factor.
If the asset were of fundamental value, then all bounty hunters or airdropers would not destroy the price by 90%.
But everyone wants fast money here and now.

Unfortunately that is definitely correct mate, selling the bounty coins or tokens rewards is possible the causes of the price drops of the project in the market cap, but this harder to explain why is factor have big effect from every project specially if the coins or token have an decent price value until they goes again into a shit coins. This happen needs to resolve of every devs.

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Quote from: royalfestus on September 27, 2019, 06:09:39 PM

Quote from: Shepard777 on September 23, 2019, 11:27:58 AM

I think this can’t happen with a good project, since I reckon that the team has smart people and they have re-calculated everything. The only reason I think the price is falling very much is because the team itself starts selling its tokens if they are not blocked.

that team thing is a very big factor in exchange listing, those guys are too tricky and have caused a massive price dump in a lot of projects this year. If we have to look keenly on price of project listed this year, a large percentage didnt do well at all, irrespective use of case, that brings me project's work on token economics.

That is important to see that its devs will be much responsible for all their actions. If they want their project to succeed and not being devalued after listing, then they should have to control the buying and selling of their coins just what it did by some developers. But somehow and we can't deny also that some investors are so skeptical and they only look for a project that seems to be trusted and they feel that they could make money with them.

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Quote from: Shepard777 on September 23, 2019, 11:27:58 AM

I think this can’t happen with a good project, since I reckon that the team has smart people and they have re-calculated everything. The only reason I think the price is falling very much is because the team itself starts selling its tokens if they are not blocked.

that team thing is a very big factor in exchange listing, those guys are too tricky and have caused a massive price dump in a lot of projects this year. If we have to look keenly on price of project listed this year, a large percentage didnt do well at all, irrespective use of case, that brings me project's work on token economics.

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