Why price down after listing in exchanges - page 12.

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Quote from: Micerker on September 27, 2019, 05:34:44 PM

Quote from: benycoin on September 23, 2019, 10:48:30 AM

We always see the price rise for a short period after the listing in the exchanges or after IEO, but soon price be come down,
this may due to two reasons:
The first reason is that the coin or token has no real value.
The second reason is the large sale of those who got his coin free such as airdrop.
Isn't that true?

There are many reasons for prices to fall right after linking on the first exchange. Most of the reasons come from investors who participated in ICOs at low prices, and after being listed on the first exchanges, they started selling them all to make a profit. Or the project development team cannot keep investors and investors from selling all tokens they hold and leave.

No project owner would able to stop their investors not to sell out their tokens after listing yet the primary reason why people do invest is to make profits when they do see a minimal or possible profits on the money they do invested.

We do see some gimmicks or strategies of some project like holding or locking up funds before releasing it to prevent being dumped which is quite good and not bad.
Usually with these dump talks all bounty hunters would took the blame without even thinking that its investors are the primary dumpers.

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The most important in order to have sustainable growth of a coin is that investors could see of its potentiality which is somehow couldn't see in many projects today. Developers never have any action to place for a long-term plan, they'll just be confident and they think that it is enough to be listed in a certain exchange that has even no market volume. And what it happens after listing? Nothing it happens, nobody set their buying price cause they know that they couldn't get something from them. A lot of sellers (even the price is low) but nobody is buying still, be dead.

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Quote from: benycoin on September 23, 2019, 10:48:30 AM

We always see the price rise for a short period after the listing in the exchanges or after IEO, but soon price be come down,
this may due to two reasons:
The first reason is that the coin or token has no real value.
The second reason is the large sale of those who got his coin free such as airdrop.
Isn't that true?

There are many reasons for prices to fall right after linking on the first exchange. Most of the reasons come from investors who participated in ICOs at low prices, and after being listed on the first exchanges, they started selling them all to make a profit. Or the project development team cannot keep investors and investors from selling all tokens they hold and leave.

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Quote from: Taskford on September 27, 2019, 05:14:01 PM

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Quote from: benycoin on September 23, 2019, 10:48:30 AM

We always see the price rise for a short period after the listing in the exchanges or after IEO, but soon price be come down,
this may due to two reasons:
The first reason is that the coin or token has no real value.
The second reason is the large sale of those who got his coin free such as airdrop.
Isn't that true?

During this time I experienced the influence of sales price changes from Bounty Hunter token sales. However, if they have good marketing and a good development a sharp decline will not happen. The selling value of definite coins after the decline will rise.

Many projects even now restrict bounty hunters from selling tokens by giving tokens after the project is completed gradually. This kind of way is often done even after tokens are listed on the exchange, cannot be sold directly and they lock them so the price can continue to stabilize.

I'm little bit off with that suggestion since hunters should pay what they deserve and if devs don't want there token price to get dump then they should support it and do some buybacks or whatever strategy just to maintain there token price, I really saw those great project up way back on year 2017 where new alts came pretty strong but now almost all new comers are totally bullshit where there is no clear indicator if they will stay since mostly all are scams.

Buyback model bounty campaigns don't solve the problem, it creates more problems from my expertise on so campaigns. Token price is not issue on the scam projects, the team of the scam projects always delay the bounty reward distribution and they never announce the exchange listing as they promised at the first stages of the ICO. The bounty hunters are deceived by both bounty managers and teams, I don't blame the bounty hunters for the before-mentioned reasons. Great projects never do make such problems and they pay as they develop their project. The problems start after the end of the bounty campaigns and the dump follows in the exchange listing time. Altcoins are more than 2500 according to the Coinmarketcap, just a small portion of these altcoins are useful for the crypto society.

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Quote from: nabilapimpo on September 27, 2019, 04:48:13 PM

Quote from: benycoin on September 23, 2019, 10:48:30 AM

We always see the price rise for a short period after the listing in the exchanges or after IEO, but soon price be come down,
this may due to two reasons:
The first reason is that the coin or token has no real value.
The second reason is the large sale of those who got his coin free such as airdrop.
Isn't that true?

During this time I experienced the influence of sales price changes from Bounty Hunter token sales. However, if they have good marketing and a good development a sharp decline will not happen. The selling value of definite coins after the decline will rise.

Many projects even now restrict bounty hunters from selling tokens by giving tokens after the project is completed gradually. This kind of way is often done even after tokens are listed on the exchange, cannot be sold directly and they lock them so the price can continue to stabilize.

I'm little bit off with that suggestion since hunters should pay what they deserve and if devs don't want there token price to get dump then they should support it and do some buybacks or whatever strategy just to maintain there token price, I really saw those great project up way back on year 2017 where new alts came pretty strong but now almost all new comers are totally bullshit where there is no clear indicator if they will stay since mostly all are scams.

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Quote from: benycoin on September 23, 2019, 10:48:30 AM

We always see the price rise for a short period after the listing in the exchanges or after IEO, but soon price be come down,
this may due to two reasons:
The first reason is that the coin or token has no real value.
The second reason is the large sale of those who got his coin free such as airdrop.
Isn't that true?

During this time I experienced the influence of sales price changes from Bounty Hunter token sales. However, if they have good marketing and a good development a sharp decline will not happen. The selling value of definite coins after the decline will rise.

Many projects even now restrict bounty hunters from selling tokens by giving tokens after the project is completed gradually. This kind of way is often done even after tokens are listed on the exchange, cannot be sold directly and they lock them so the price can continue to stabilize.

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The only reason why I think this happened to some tokens/coins is their lack of liquidity, most of the bounty that I joined doesn't have a Plan B when things are not happening according to what they planned. the late distribution of bounty rewards will help a lot, because base on my research, we can see that delaying the rewards of the bounty participants will stop the tokens/coins from falling to the bottom.

mostly, when those new tokens/coins are listed on exchanges a swarm of bounty participants will immediately dump their tokens/coins we cannot blame them because those tokens/coins now belong to them.

If they can just list their coins to more exchanges before distributing it, they can prolong their tokens/coins life before they can release new updates with their tokens/coins. in that way, the price will not fall down. instead, it will ride the waves and stay alive in the future.

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Quote from: Deborah Christine on September 27, 2019, 10:21:58 AM

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Truth.
Basically the first factor.
If the asset were of fundamental value, then all bounty hunters or airdropers would not destroy the price by 90%.
But everyone wants fast money here and now.

I do not agree if you said that bounty hunter destroys prices. Allocation for bounties for each project is only a few percent of the total number of coins. There has never been a project that allocated for bounties greater than the number of coins. The price of coins falls when they enter the market is not caused by bounty hunters who sell their coins. But more than the project itself. Unfavorable development and lack of demand for the coins in the market.

Actually in certain factors it affects the price since bounties are been released to the participant in bulk and almost all of the hunters are dumping their coins immediately that's why we can see the price dump, But actually all of this still depends on developers since if they don't support there token/coin then it will dump.

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If commonly we think also we can find that users are contributing their money to get the returns as a profit. You cannot surely say that most of the project will sustain for long time. So in the time of the listing itself at least 75 percentage of the people sell their tokens or coins.

We need think about the best altcoins and invest on that to make the profit.

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Many factor can make token price fall after listing, token has no value is the main factor and big bonuses in tokensale is another factor can make token price fall.

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Truth.
Basically the first factor.
If the asset were of fundamental value, then all bounty hunters or airdropers would not destroy the price by 90%.
But everyone wants fast money here and now.

I do not agree if you said that bounty hunter destroys prices. Allocation for bounties for each project is only a few percent of the total number of coins. There has never been a project that allocated for bounties greater than the number of coins. The price of coins falls when they enter the market is not caused by bounty hunters who sell their coins. But more than the project itself. Unfavorable development and lack of demand for the coins in the market.

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Quote from: Jpti on September 27, 2019, 09:53:27 AM

This is partly true. Crypto projects give away huge amounts of tokens for free through bounty campaigns and airdrops just to advertise their product. But the story does end here. The big picture is different. Crypto projects give high amount of bonus during pre sale or ICO or IEO. So investors sell off tokens just to get quick bucks right after hitting exchanges.

In fact, this is the main reason for the price reduction. Participants in the bounty and airdrop have almost no effect on the price, since they are paid very small amounts. The whole problem is the huge bonuses that are given to investors.
But this is not the main problem. The main problem is the lack of good projects. Naturally, unpromising projects will immediately depreciate.

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This is partly true. Crypto projects give away huge amounts of tokens for free through bounty campaigns and airdrops just to advertise their product. But the story does end here. The big picture is different. Crypto projects give high amount of bonus during pre sale or ICO or IEO. So investors sell off tokens just to get quick bucks right after hitting exchanges.

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Quote from: benycoin on September 23, 2019, 10:48:30 AM

We always see the price rise for a short period after the listing in the exchanges or after IEO, but soon price be come down,
this may due to two reasons:
The first reason is that the coin or token has no real value.
The second reason is the large sale of those who got his coin free such as airdrop.
Isn't that true?

The biggest reason is that the token has no value. I see there are projects that only pay for bounty or airdrop about 0.5% - 1% of the total token sale. Although their token sale is more than 50% of the total supply, until the price plummets, do they blame bounty hunters? Huh

In fact, the problem lies with the team, they do not want to support the acquisition of tokens, so the price falls free.

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Quote from: Ararbermas on September 27, 2019, 12:56:46 AM

Its because of being have low demand that's why the prices going down after listing. But you know its just normal scenario and it doesn't mean it last afterwards and will not go further . Because it's still have a potential to gain value wherein depends on the performance of the team behind also. So you better pick wisely and make sure the team behind are very professional to assure everything will be fine no matter what happen.

the low demand is indeed one important point why a new coin is easy enough to go down. sometimes almost everyone who is interested in the project has invested in the ICO / IEO. so, there will be no new requests when they enter the market so that it makes no walls volume in the market.

The small volume is also one of the reasons for the price of new coins to fall. in this case, the team's strategy is needed to create a wall on sell orders so that when many people sell their tokens, prices don't dump so far.

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Quote from: Ararbermas on September 27, 2019, 12:56:46 AM

Its because of being have low demand that's why the prices going down after listing. But you know its just normal scenario and it doesn't mean it last afterwards and will not go further . Because it's still have a potential to gain value wherein depends on the performance of the team behind also. So you better pick wisely and make sure the team behind are very professional to assure everything will be fine no matter what happen.

If from my point of view it might be a little different, but I agree with what you say. The main thing in doing this is to not be in a hurry and also not to be too tempted by the offers or promises of each of their teams.
Keep in mind that not all coins are down after listing exchange, there are also those that exceed the price at ICO.

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Its because of being have low demand that's why the prices going down after listing. But you know its just normal scenario and it doesn't mean it last afterwards and will not go further . Because it's still have a potential to gain value wherein depends on the performance of the team behind also. So you better pick wisely and make sure the team behind are very professional to assure everything will be fine no matter what happen.

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on September 26, 2019, 06:54:20 PM

i like the first point of the op - "the coin or token has no real value". this is the major reason why a certain coin cant stop the continuous decline of its price once listed. if those sellers believe that this coin will be valuable in the future, they will not sell their share for pennies!
we have witnessed countless times that when a coin plunges, very rare that it can recover even half of its initial price. for those that who dont want to wait for nothing, they will just sell their holdings even at cheap prices. you cant blame them. they dont want to lose all their investments.
those free tokens that the team distributed, should have no significant impact as the percentage is very small as compared to their total supply. should not even think that they will dictate the fate of the project!

yes, the point is very simple, but it contains many reasons, every coin that has no real value has its own reasons and if discussed one by one, it will take a lot of time.

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Dumping will definitely happen but when the coins have strong support and the developers are consistent to continue to increase the tokens they release, at least the demand and supply will be well connected. So when the connection does not go well then it will only make the price continue to fall without high demand, the token will not be able to have a worthy value and that has become a risk so far.

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Quote from: benycoin on September 23, 2019, 10:48:30 AM

We always see the price rise for a short period after the listing in the exchanges or after IEO, but soon price be come down,
this may due to two reasons:
The first reason is that the coin or token has no real value.
The second reason is the large sale of those who got his coin free such as airdrop.
Isn't that true?

and besides that coins or tokens are listed in bad exchange and I often see that happening on a project. I also agree with some of the reasons you say because that makes the price of coins in the market fall after listing. some people get coins from airdrop directly sell them because they get them for free without hard work so price drop after listing on exchange.

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