Topic: Why putin choose winter? (Read 593 times)

Wether Putin chosed the timing or not, with how apparent things are from all corners, only this issue of gas supply from Russia to the EU countries and how a cut off could drastically affect their economy is enough signal to alert Ukraine that the war they are fighting is a "one man mopol" war.

Ukraine continuous  dependant on EU to salvage them at all cost against Russia is one I don't see happening, cause every country act based on national interest. So the question is, is it same EU that depend on Russia for supply of about 40%  of their gas, would rise up to fight side by side Ukraine against Russia at the expense of their continuous gas supply? No meaning government would blatantly want to put it's economy at risk.

So Ukraine should as a matter of urgency make out ways with Russia in ending this war.

As of today, there are already more than 12,000 corpses of Rashists. The Armed Forces of Ukraine adhere to the rules of warfare and international standards of warfare, and are forced to save the lives of those who surrender. But there is an exception - after peaceful cities were bombed with artillery and rockets, civilian children, old people, women were killed, there is an unofficial rule - do not take artillerymen prisoner, just destroy them. I absolutely agree here - people who deliberately go to kill and wage a terrorist war against civilians have no other options but to go to hell as soon as possible.
Thank you, from the bottom of my heart, for your support, it is very important and valuable for us!

About 9000 as of yesterday.  I think soon they will stop counting them daily.

I hope you can kill them whenever you see them.  Do not take prisoners.  Just kill as many as you can.

If you continue this fight to summer/fall, Putin will be killed by the FSB.  There is no way he can survive this for many years.

You have no idea how many Russians died here! Our morgues are packed, their corpses are lying in the fields, forests, fragments - in the destroyed equipment. And you know what? Russia REFUSES TO TAKE THE BODIES OF ITS SOLDIERS!!!! We beg the International Red Cross to facilitate the transfer of the bodies of the dead to their relatives, this is required by international agreements. But the Kremlin does not want to accept them so that people do not see the real picture. Their propaganda says the day before yesterday that there are NO DEAD on their side. But in reality, more than 6,000 corpses of their soldiers have been COLLECTED in Ukraine today! How many of them have not yet been found in the fields, and how many fragmented corpses!? Who does not believe - I can send photos and videos with the destroyed Russian-fascist troops, but I will not publish here, very shocking materials.

Western politicians need to read the mainstream Russian media.

Here is an article from Feb 26 (taken down now) but will give you an idea of Putin's rationale for solving the "Ukrainian Question":

https://web.archive.org/web/20220226051154/https://ria.ru/20220226/rossiya-1775162336.html

Putinians think Russians in Ukraine love to live under an autocratic, fascist dictatorship.  How about Russians in Lithuania, Poland, Germany?

According to this logic, Russia should annex any country that has Russians as its citizens.

Seems to be happening already.. and he's been using scatter bombs and vacuum bombs (assuming the flamethrower..).
I'm not sure when people will realize you can't negotiate with this man.

He has already overextended himself militarily.  That is why he asked Lukashenko to lend him more fresh bodies to fill the void and start firing rockets from Belarus.

He will start carpet-bombing soon, I'm afraid.  This will be the end of his reign.

NATO will be forced to join to establish the no-fly zone to prevent a large-scale genocide unless oligarchs will take him out first.

Not sure why Ukrainian forces are not dropping a few bombs (front, middle, and back sections) on that 40-mile convoy, north of Kyiv.
Or maybe they already took care of this.

Laugh, but soon in Russia there will be "eat dick without salt", everything, and forever
Regarding the traitors-Russians in World War II - so they were OFFICIALLY, more than 1.5 million Read about the Vlasovites, the ROA, and other accomplices of the Nazis! The Russians are the heirs of fascism and Nazism!
Do not read the nonsense of the Kremlin propagandists anymore

Now I serve in the Territorial Defense of Ukraine. I can put you a mega-album with the burnt equipment of the Russians, a herd of their prisoners, fields with their corpses - "the strongest army in the world" By the way - Putin refuses to take the corpses of his soldiers - he is afraid of a riot of women

Are you insane?DrKoolade is what you are.No it's not North Ossetia because it is SOUTH Ossetia. :)Okay so you say these other places don't exist ...because you say so.Okay big man go and try take them back by force and see how far your ass gets before its set on fire by some russian.
Now imagine also in your fairytales that Crimea and Donbass don't exist either while you cry into your beer as putin rolls tanks in from today.
Not sure if the russians ever collaborated with nazis but some ukranians did https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collaboration_in_German-occupied_Ukraine Hey look I can make smiley faces too  

Georgia invaded... Georgia?? )) There is no North Ossetia. As there is no Obzakhia, there is no Pridnestrovian Moldavian Republic, there is no LPR and DPR! These are territories occupied by separatists, and 99% supported by Russia! You somehow brainwash after watching propaganda channels, because soon around every corner you will see "crucified boys" !

Well, about the second part - I see that you have absolutely no information about the real situation in Ukraine! That's why you write such crazy posts In Ukraine, no one was driven into uniform, in Ukraine, the population in 2014 itself went to volunteer detachments TO DEFEND their freedom! In Ukraine, power is not a deity, and no one will, like in Russia, stupidly, like sheep, follow orders! Ukrainians have a concept of honor and dignity, and this causes misunderstanding among the inhabitants of the same Russia In February 2022, after all the threats from Russia, do you know what the population's reaction is? Territorial defense detachments have been created, all weapons and ammunition have been bought up in weapons stores! And you can continue to tell fairy tales about the world behind the scenes, trying to justify the crazy under-furrer and his slave people

Absolutely right, lesson of the history is that no country ever defeated Russia in winter , this is their strength  and they use it wisely , even Hitler was not defeated by Russia but winter. The 2nd strength of Russia is its huge gas reserves and European depend on it to run their Industrial complexes and maintain heating system of their homes. I am still optimistic that this conflict will not turn into any major war and eventually it will be resolved through negotiations.

ROFL,Saakashvili was the aggressor when his army invaded South Ossetia.The Russians simply handed his ass back to him and could have easily ran Georgia over in a matter of hours but didn't.It seems he then went to ply his trade in..well erm ..Ukraine.More on Saakashvili here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikheil_Saakashvili


Look you are entitled to go ahead and defend yourselves against the Russians and I wish you well and but make sure the plutocrats who are getting rich from your "democracy" put on a uniform and are sent to the front also.We want nothing to do with any of your wars because we already know the politicans who talk shit all day about freedom and democracy are just as bad as Putin.The EU, New Zealand,Canada,Australia etc are no role models for "democracy" either and are no better than any other autocratic regime apart from the fact you get to vote for your dictator every half decade or so.Our so called western democracies are fraudulent window dressing for equally bad regimes they set themselves above so at least try something genuine now you are a new "democracy".We have our own  "elected" "Putins" in the west who work for plutocrats and create crisis after crisis to subvert and destroy our nation states from within so we have enough going on right now to be dealing with your "Putin" problem  

1. You did not dare to answer any of the previously posed questions! This is a good reason to rate your posts
2. You ABSOLUTELY do not own the causal relationship, and are absolutely not familiar with the real history of the conflict. After your sentence "If you are from Ukraine then you should realize you are just a pawn for NATO because they couldn't care less about your country getting ran over by the Russians." I will not waste time on you, trying to explain something, I will just give a couple of historical facts in chronology, and you will try to LOGICALLY bring them to your delirium, no offense, but now you will understand why I have the right to evaluate your "knowledge" in this way
- In 2014, Ukraine was attacked by Russia. Results - the capture and occupation of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea. The fact that it was a special operation, developed in advance under the leadership of Putin, was officially declared PERSONALLY by Putin. Then there was an officially supported operation to build "Novorosiya" - by capturing the eastern and southern regions of Ukraine. It did not work out here - Russia got hit in the face, and was forced to flee and dig in in Donetsk and Lugansk. There are now RUSSIAN passports, RUSSIAN money, RUSSIAN military! So - we fix the year 2014, the beginning, the attack of the Russian Federation on Ukraine. Will you deny this FACT?
- In 2013, 2014 - Ukraine made plans for integration with ... No, not NATO, but the EU! Like an economic union. And about NATO, there was no talk at all. Not from our side, Not from NATO, not from the USA! And only in recent years, even under Poroshenko, they raised and began to promote the issue of joining NATO, as the only option to defend themselves against such an aggressor as the Russian Federation. The possibility of associative membership was considered and announced in 2008, after the aggression of the Russian Federation against Georgia. But on that statement, everything calmed down and did not move forward, until 2014+. And what happened in 2014 - you already know ...




Right now I will describe the scenario that Russia is planning.
The scenario will most likely be like this:
1. Tomorrow the column with "refugees" will be shot either by the forces of the DNR/LNR or by regular Russian troops. It will be given out, of course, for "the crimes of the armed forces of Ukraine." Most likely they will shoot with artillery or MLRS. There is a nuance - even knowing the route, artillery, preferably a stationary column in the targeted area, so that the most "beautiful / bloody picture" is obtained. It will be necessary for the column to stop exactly where it is needed.
2. How to stop the column? Most likely a land mine on the road or something like that, everyone stopped and then the "armed forces of Ukraine" begin an unexpected "shelling" and exactly where the column is standing.
3. After the fall of the last shell, it suddenly turns out that there was a group of RussiaToday, ORT, ... or all together, they will find themselves in the middle of the field on an empty highway "there was a meeting." The report will turn out hellish, you can’t argue here
4. February 19 in the evening or February 20 in the morning - an urgent meeting of the Federation Council will be announced, condemning the "terrible crime", "a heroic response, as part of saving the Russian speakers"
I really want to be completely wrong in the forecast ....

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1494681937402900484

Some activity happening in Donetsk, sirens ringing out ordering an evacuation of citizens to Russia. Indicates that Russia is expecting an attack on Donetsk (clearly a false flag operation, Ukraine has no intention on military intervention unless they are attacked first), or this could be done preemptively in case Russia were to conduct an invasion. Putin making his intentions clear that he is willing to invade Ukraine, many countries have already ordered their citizens to evacuate, embassies are being cleared.

• Are you seriously ? On the tracks? Do you know how long a tank column lives on the march, along a highway that falls under the action of anti-tank units? Definitely did not serve in the army!
  
  And in case you didn't know, heavy Russian tanks move perfectly off-road.
  Look here - video from the exercise site, rough terrain. Tanks, Russian. The day before yesterday. Let them know they're doing well
  
  https://t.me/vzglyad_ru/44216
  
• And why did you take only ground troops? Do you think that combat confrontation occurs only with ground forces? Take, for example, the topographic service of the RF Armed Forces - there are generally a couple of thousand people there!
  I tell you: today the composition of the army of the Russian Federation:
  - Ground troops
  - Aerospace Forces
  - Air and Missile Defense Troops
  - Navy
  - Airborne Troops
  - Special Troops
  - Strategic Rocket Forces
  - Space Forces
  
  The total composition, regular - about 900.000 (2020), and 2.000.000 in reserve.
  
  Tell me - do you really not have information or are you deliberately distorting reality?
  

My response to this got deleted ....but the key point is that that military build up was to warn Ukraine off from launching an offensive against Donbass and Crimea regions and to get some concessions regarding Ukraine NATO membership.Just an amateur observer opinion of course because I am not an expert like all these self proclaimed professional analysts here on the thread.

If you are from Ukraine then you should realise you are just a pawn for NATO because they couldn't care less about your country getting ran over by the Russians.The reason they arm you to the hilt is so they can stand back and let it all break loose among yourselves while taking notes and it all remaining "conventional".The Russians adopted the hard posture because of your leaders aspirations to join NATO and then host their weapons systems on Russian border.Also once your "leader" has NATO membership it means that if he tries to retake Crimea and the Russians engage then they are obliged to engage on your side and nobody in any NATO country wants anything to do with that shit because that would mean all out nuclear war.You know a LOT less than an amateur like I do it seems so thanks for clearing that up.

So that great plain of Mother Russia is not muddy anymore? A 46 ton T90 heavy tank can not move in muddy terrain and has the possibility to stuck in a swamp. You are saying the road is still bad there, so how those tanks will move through that great plain if communication by road is still as bad as before. Russia do use the advantages of weather conditions to win all the previous war.


Ukraine is an extremely developed country? really brother!

The US needs a war just like Russia and everybody else. They are knowingly provoking Russia to make it happen. That's the only way to stop the inflation or at least make people stop talking about it. People will suffer either way whether there is a war or not, it will only be the excuse of what's coming. Russia needs it too because it will rise the oil prices and teach Europe a lesson: Russia pwns your ass. Arms dealers will also make a killing. (literally) Wars are just... very profitable.

Have you been brainwashed by propaganda news reports?

• If one of the Russians reads this word "Rasputitsa", he will laugh out loud, by the way, precisely because of the illiteracy of the opponents and because of the neglect of obvious things, Russia has won almost all wars.
• This is not the middle of the twentieth century and Ukraine and Russia have extremely developed infrastructure, (yes, the quality of the roads sucks), but this is enough to lead an offensive in any weather. And if you didn’t know, heavy Russian tanks move perfectly off-road.
• The size of the Russian ground forces is only 280,000 people, which is half that of the United States, despite the fact that the United States is surrounded by an ally and militarily underdeveloped Mexico and Canada, while Russia has the longest borders in the world and borders with dozens of countries.