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Quote from: jeremiel on June 28, 2013, 02:13:25 PM

SPAM SPAM and TLDR....

A restriction of a newbie like myself is to prevent spam of boards but also of someone just creating manipulative accounts. Of course there are probably some people with 10 or 20 accounts on here that are used just to help them con other people. "My name is jimmy and what this guy says is right. You should invest in his scheme .eerrr plan." Barriers of entry are made as a form of filtration this is not always a bad thing.

That is obvious, but why should that cost be necessarily paid in posts and time? We have a wonderful measure of value here that is transferable. It's called Bitcoin. Why not just use it the way it was meant to be used?

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SPAM SPAM and TLDR....

A restriction of a newbie like myself is to prevent spam of boards but also of someone just creating manipulative accounts. Of course there are probably some people with 10 or 20 accounts on here that are used just to help them con other people. "My name is jimmy and what this guy says is right. You should invest in his scheme .eerrr plan." Barriers of entry are made as a form of filtration this is not always a bad thing.

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Quote from: kakakar on June 26, 2013, 01:19:35 AM

Can't figure out what is their consideration of doing this. No one answer questions from Newbie at all. Why they are so sure newbie must not raise good questions and have to be kept prison here...

I answer questions from newbies sometimes. The problem is that very few people actually look for the answer themselves, so we get many, many threads on the same topic, and it feels repetative to answer the same questions over and over and over again. Many times there is even a thread on the same topic on the first page of the section they post in. Like this:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/newbie-readme-177133
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/hi-everyone-problem-to-send-pm-244803
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/readme-replies-177136
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/posting-so-that-i-can-send-messages-245409
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/whitelist-requests-want-out-of-here-15911
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/how-can-i-activate-replies-244728

OK, so some of those are more relevant than others, but I just went through the first couple pages of 'Newbies'

Quote from: acs26 on June 28, 2013, 02:09:59 PM

Quote from: ePoint System on June 28, 2013, 02:02:59 PM

Sure, but it would be nice to define the terms clearly. It would also be nice to have a possibility to pay some BTC in order for these restrictions to be lifted with immediate effect.

The forums gets about 100-1,000 people per week. Having all of them post on one day would be chaotic. Now think about paying. Think about paying .01BTC to get out of Newbie Mode. Now think about that amount increasing per month because of demand. PEOPLE BE PAYIN DAT .12. The forum would be rich. Now think about how much the donation groups would be. Wanna pay 20BTC for the current 10BTC donation package?

The forum already has way more money than they know what to do with, they do not need to add a payment to join.

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Quote from: ePoint System on June 28, 2013, 02:02:59 PM

Quote from: MRKLYE on June 28, 2013, 01:53:49 PM

I think it is to prevent noobs and smpammers from cloggin' up the forums.. That is my theory anyways.

Sure, but it would be nice to define the terms clearly. It would also be nice to have a possibility to pay some BTC in order for these restrictions to be lifted with immediate effect.

Think about this:

The forums gets about 100-1,000 people per week. Having all of them post on one day would be chaotic. Now think about paying. Think about paying .01BTC to get out of Newbie Mode. Now think about that amount increasing per month because of demand. PEOPLE BE PAYIN DAT .12. The forum would be rich. Now think about how much the donation groups would be. Wanna pay 20BTC for the current 10BTC donation package?

Not to mention, that when people scam they'd feel they're entitled to not getting banned, or having a scammer-tag. So of course that would be abusing that method. Not to mention they'd probably be able to lift the scammer-tag by money.

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Quote from: hACKrus on June 28, 2013, 11:53:58 AM

Useless countermeasure.
With such easy captha protection spammers can easily create thousands of accounts, if they want.
Instead of annoying 4 hours post restriction better to create 1 hour delay between posts.
Know, where are a lot of newbies in world, but I'm reading this forum for a months before one reply in very important topic and had waited for 4 hours...

Useless?
Surely you wasn't there when it was decided...

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Quote from: MRKLYE on June 28, 2013, 01:53:49 PM

I think it is to prevent noobs and smpammers from cloggin' up the forums.. That is my theory anyways.

Sure, but it would be nice to define the terms clearly. It would also be nice to have a possibility to pay some BTC in order for these restrictions to be lifted with immediate effect.

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I think it is to prevent noobs and smpammers from cloggin' up the forums.. That is my theory anyways.

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Quote from: JamesIV on June 28, 2013, 01:34:17 PM

Quote from: ePoint System on June 28, 2013, 01:30:50 PM

What needs to happen for the restriction to post to other topics to be lifted?

A prime example for the need of restrictions.

5 post and to be on the forum for 4 hours.

To be on the forum AFTER the fifth post or after the first post or in total? Also, how does my question exemplify the need for these restrictions?

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Quote from: ePoint System on June 28, 2013, 01:30:50 PM

What needs to happen for the restriction to post to other topics to be lifted?

A prime example for the need of restrictions.

5 post and to be on the forum for 4 hours.

ePoint System

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What needs to happen for the restriction to post to other topics to be lifted?

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Quote from: alwi on June 28, 2013, 01:17:04 PM

Quote from: kokjo on June 28, 2013, 11:44:24 AM

Quote from: JamesIV on June 28, 2013, 11:39:02 AM

1. Spam.
2. Discourage the same question being asked over and over.
3. They hate me.
4. I am so alone Cry

5. ?? ?? ?? ??
6. ~~Profit~~ baseball-bat in face

LOL

I told you they hate me

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Quote from: kokjo on June 28, 2013, 11:44:24 AM

Quote from: JamesIV on June 28, 2013, 11:39:02 AM

1. Spam.
2. Discourage the same question being asked over and over.
3. They hate me.
4. I am so alone Cry

5. ?? ?? ?? ??
6. ~~Profit~~ baseball-bat in face

LOL

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I enjoy my newbie sub-forum enslavement. I have a collar and these shiney shackles to prove it ^_^

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You are WRONG!

Quote from: hACKrus on June 28, 2013, 11:53:58 AM

Useless countermeasure.
With such easy captha protection spammers can easily create thousands of accounts, if they want.

cool! then do it! Tongue

hACKrus

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Useless countermeasure.
With such easy captha protection spammers can easily create thousands of accounts, if they want.
Instead of annoying 4 hours post restriction better to create 1 hour delay between posts.
Know, where are a lot of newbies in world, but I'm reading this forum for a months before one reply in very important topic and had waited for 4 hours...

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Theres good reason for this rule. It keeps out the hoardes of scammers, and spammers we would get without the restrictions. If your serious about being a member of the forums, 4 hours on the forums and 5 posts shouldnt be a problem.

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Quote from: JamesIV on June 28, 2013, 11:39:02 AM

1. Spam.
2. Discourage the same question being asked over and over.
3. They hate me.
4. I am so alone Cry

5. ?? ?? ?? ??
6. ~~Profit~~ baseball-bat in face

JamesIV

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1. Spam.
2. Discourage the same question being asked over and over.
3. They hate me.
4. I am so alone Cry

5. ?? ?? ?? ??
6. Profit

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Quote from: Asrael999 on June 28, 2013, 08:38:11 AM

The problem with restricting newbies is that it is offputting to the casual investigator who may be looking at starting to use bitcoin or other crypto currency. The major purpose of this site and the community in general should be to expand the number of people using bitcoin - and promote its acceptance and the understanding of it. Creating artificial impediments for new users and or otherwise putting them off by being rude/obnoxious or generally boorish is detrimental to the adoption of bitcoin by the broader community and hence its value and its future.

If they're casual investigators then they'll be interested in reading. They won't bother to register and ask a question.

If they do prefer to ask a question, it'll be one that's been answered a million times before so it seems the restriction serves existing and new users equally.

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I have no problem with it and wish more boards did the same.

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