Topic: Why Ripple™ is against everything Bitcoin (Read 45626 times)

Thanks OP

that website ist vividly :-)

not p2p, and premined, it's like virtual fiat

if I want a currency that primarily serves some issuer, I would prefer FRC or DVC, at least they are for a good cause and real p2p coins  

You are aware that most of the stuff that you quoted is simply not true, seriously bending truth or simple propaganda written so that more of you would fall for TradeFortress' scam operations inputs.io and coinlenders? Ironically all these "arguments" against depositing coins and trusting people still enabled himself to betray the trust of his customers and walk away with 4.1k BTC "stolen" or "hacked", maybe more.

A lot of people confuse XRP ("ripples") with "Ripple" (or "OpenCoin/RippleLabs Ripple"/"Ripple.com") itself by the way. This thread here is just sad.

I would rather you qualify the alt currency as OC Ripple.  Ripple was conceived and developed before OpenCoin commercialized and forked it.
You may not agree with the original version of Ripple (Ripple Original) either, but it is different from the OC Ripple you describe.

Tradefortress is someone who was deleting comments critical of his opinions in his thread.  Free speech my hat

 

For reference here is the topic that TF is refering to: https://ripple.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2597

That was added because users oblivious to the "experiment" TF did were wasting their time trying to answer questions that were not asked by someone honestly having difficulties but by someone attempting to manipulate Ripple or spread FUD. They were effectively complaining that they were having problems sending an IOU of their own to Bitstamp and claiming Ripple was broken because it didn't work. Well duh, no shit Bitstamp isn't going to take their private IOU. It was a question that appeared to me was made in bad faith concealing their intent and that both Ripple addresses in question belonged to the same person. I simply wanted people new to the topic to have some information before they wasted their time on it. Perhaps my phrasing or the way I responded in that topic was a bit severe or something; shit happens, I'm only human.


First, free speech in no why means you or anyone else is allowed to say/do whatever the fuck you want in whatever forum you want. The forum registration there (as I'd guess here; I don't recall) explicitly says that the owners can remove whatever they want (typically those clauses are so that deleting outright spam like Viagra ads doesn't become a legal problem). It is in no way a free speech issue if a post is removed or a notice edited in. Just as it wouldn't be a free speech issue if the mods here edited out my use of 'fuck' (silly when forums do that IMO, but not a free speech issue).

Second, to suggest OpenCoin is censoring it's forums is absurd when one considers this topic: Explain to me how Ripple is not a scam. I'm fairly certain not a single posting in that topic was touched in any way. There are also other topics on those forums highly critical of OpenCoin. When they made me a moderator (I'm just a volunteer, I complained about spam and offered to help) they mentioned they didn't like any censoring/deleting of non-spam.

The solution to bad information is more good information. That is why some people that like Ripple post replies when the see outright lies about Ripple made here. It's almost amusing to see the claims that pro-Ripple information given on bitcointalk is from people coming from the Ripple forums; as if there is some directive over there to "invade" here. More amusing are the frequent claims that paid Ripple shills are posting to bitcointalk.

Well, if you are so into good and honest moderators on this forum, please feel free to invest in DiabloD3's upcoming 1 million btc DMC datacenter with green energy! 

Remember when Nefario was a moderator on this forum? Yeah, that didn't end well.

gmaxwell is widely known to be disreputable. It wouldn't be the first time scammers/undesirables have managed to get a moderator position on this forum, it won't be the last. Seems hardly enough to impugn the admin or the mods as a group.

What?

They are good people until you try to expose scammers they get money from...

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wow-becoin-failed-to-read-and-comprehend-bfls-policy-on-btc-refunds-137026

Didn't take long to validate my accusations, mrbig decides to delete my reply in his self moderated thread on ripple in this section.


Can't moderate this thread cupcake.

It's very clear what Opencoin and Ripple stand for and want out of the crypto currency community, a heavily controlled(by them), dissent free, happy land.  Sounds tyranically awesome!

I said what you forgot to say--they maybe just out there to siphon off people's money, nothing more.

That's nowhere near what I said.

Good guys will always be good guys, politician keep their promises, yup, both make sense.

Ouch, As again, this is why I like theymos, his mods and this forum. Such good people. I cannot stand forums like this above.

What every loser thinks before being manipulated:" I am holding the same asset as the big players, it's guaranteed profit!".....

Can some moderator PLEASE add a mod warning to everyone who came from Ripple forums?

I have noticed that Ripple moderators has began adding the following mod note to anti Ripple posts:

[mod edit: see below, it would appear that GryphonArk is bitcointalk's jubalix and that he/she is just trying to spread anti-Ripple FUD. Read and make up your own mind.]

I think it's only fair that Bitcointalk do to same - add a warning to everyone who is also registered on Ripple forums. Especially if they came here to QQ about the broken liquidity providers feature in Ripple.

I am joking of course. Free speech apparently isn't one of the beliefs of OpenCoin inc moderators.

Okay you are obviously only wanting to see one side of the coin.

The fact that ripple can be shut down is enough reason not to use it.
Condoning manipulation shows your true colors.

Show me where I indicated putting all of ones money into ripple  ?

Now you are just making shit up that I didn't say.

I agree. You first, stop talking now :-)

Then we should only talk when this happens. Eveything here is a waste of time.

For now, they are nothing more than petty liars and scammers. They have to either correct the lies on their website or opensource the project, nothing else will change that.