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May 05, 2016, 08:13:51 PM
I was sleeping. Now the REKTing will ensue.

I am an innocent Noob, and not a sock puppet. Grin

I believe you are a liar. Prove it by revealing your identity. My identity is known to everyone. I have revealed my full name, where I live, my history, my LinkedIn account, my public non-anonymous writings published over the internet, etc..

If you believe that, you are dumber than I thought.

Yes, I do believe I explained it.

If you feed the script a plain ASCII text file, you'll just claim he might have used UTF16. Or a PDF file, which can altered in infinitely many ways without affecting the text content. Or a JPEG of a photograph of a printout of the document. Or something else entirely.

Perhaps you're illiterate?

Yes of course there is a combinatorial explosion of possibilities which was my point that you all can't conclude with 100% certainty that Craig can't produce a preimage of the hash, unless you can be sure he can't second preimage SHA-256 or otherwise find a collision. And I had stated that double hashing with SHA-256 might possibility have a cryptoanalysis hole that isn't known to exist in the cryptoanalysis of a single hashing. Again this was just a theory I wanted to discuss. Perhaps you don't like theories. Perhaps you would have preferred that Einstein didn't ponder riding in elevators. Well small, closed minds aren't very creative and thus don't achieve greatness. More on that with follow in a subsequent post.

However, in spite of the fact that you can't disprove any possible means of representation or permutation of the Sartre text, I wrote several times upthread that at the bare minimum, those protagonists who were claiming 100% certainty that Craig could not do something (btw a very strong claim), it would behove them to at least show that using typical representations of the Sartre text (e.g. ASCII text and perhaps UTF8/UTF16), that no contiguous portion of the text could hash to the signed hash. Moreover and more saliently, I pointed out that the protagonists were disingenuous or derelict by not pointing out the possibility that Craig might still be able to match the hash with some revealed content, Iff (if and only if) Craig had found a way to second preimage or otherwise find the necessary collision on the SHA256 hash. That the protagonists were too lazy to do this and were also too lazy to even verify if the website drcraigwright.com is Craig Wright's official communication vehicle (which apparently it is not and is now for sale here on bitcointalk.org according to a screen capture I quoted upthread), points to the lack of diligence and/or disingenuity in this tribe of Bitcoin maximalists including apparently yourself, who think they are holier than thou.

Do not disingenously quote my above two paragraphs out-of-context again. Don't cherry pick my context to make inane non-rebuttals which side-step my holistic set of points.

Note when I am done REKTing you on the technical points (again more is to follow below after this post), I never again want to waste my precious time with a useless and disingenuous turd. So this will be your last interaction with me.

We do have fairly convincing evidence that the signature Wright posted is not a signature of any subset of the Sartre document.

Specifically, it matches an early public signature from Satoshi lifted from a Bitcoin transaction. The chance against any portion of the Sartre document generating an identical signature are astronomical. Hence, it's pretty clearly an attempt at fraud or at the very least intentional misdirection.

You are apparently mathematically illiterate. If Craig can't find the second preimage or necessary collision, then he can't find a text that matches. Period. If he can find the second preimage or necessary collision, then he can find a text that matches. Period. When we analyze the probability, we don't start only with the Sartre text document. He could have chosen from any document on earth.

Thus his ability to use only contiguous portions of the Sartre document is mathematical plausible (again assuming he has the necessary cryptographic breakage), and thus it behoves the protagonists to explain this and even to write a quick script to prove that the contiguous portions possibilities in the common encoding formats does not hash to the signature he provided. The derelicts didn't do this. My necessary mathematical assumption in this paragraph (not impacting the prior paragraph) is that the hash function would be subject to a multi-collision attack. Thus if the breakage is not multi-collision, then Craig could not have reasonably limited himself to contiguous portions because the search for document matches in itself would probably be an intractable computational problem. My point remains that we see none of this sophisticated explanation from the protagonists. Instead they do a little bit of half-ass analysis and then everyone proclaims Craig is a fraud. This is Craig's point! I simply wanted to have a theoretical discussion in the Bitcoin Technical Discussion subforum and instead had my legitimate inquiry vaporized by the Bitcoin maximalist "forum-Hitler" moderator who uses the moniker Gmaxwell or in real life Gregory Maxwell. And we have all his underlings here who promulgate his shitty attitude and actions.
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May 05, 2016, 08:05:02 PM
I think that CSW stumbled upon Bitcoin circa 2013 (late 2012 at the earliest) and started concocting a narrative to fit his long con. Stumbling upon the death of David Kleiman, a person who CSW co-wrote with, Craig saw that the pieces of Dave's life fit nicely in what's known about Satoshi. It was just a matter of creating docs to make it look like he and Dave were partners of sorts which I've demonstrated he's done.

Agreed. Beyond co-authoring a couple of works, there is no independent source linking these men as being close. Kleiman's colleagues had no idea who Craig was when he phoned - and why did he leave it 10 months after Dave's death to contact them about 1 million Bitcoin? It's all part of his web of lies to deceive.

I'm still taken aback on how David Kleiman was awarded soldier of the year in 1987 after ONLY one year of service while being a Huey tech in Germany, beating out a million-plus candidates, some of which were perhaps more deserving. Also, he claimed to be a war veteran when he didn't serve in a war zone because ... wait for it ... the US wasn't involved in any conflicts during his stint in the US Army.

Did he though? I wouldn't trust a local news outlet to get the facts straight. Apparently, to become Soldier of the Year you have to engage in the Best Warrior competition. Problem is, it only began in 2002.

http://catalog.gpo.gov/F/THFGQXDFADX3FXYJAHHQIAVNUN165KI1EQM1Y4L471DLXN92CN-01341?func=full-set-set&set_number=006014&set_entry=000004&format=999

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legendary
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May 05, 2016, 07:55:42 PM
interesting chat with Joseph VaughnPerling. he sounds a little pissed off.

Satoshi Saga Continues: Tulip Trust Trustee Expected to Appear by September 19, Says Joseph VaughnPerling

Joseph VaughnPerling alludes to the Tulip trustee being a woman. Now, who is Joseph VaughnPerling? (I envision Ayn Rand turning her earthworm vibrator on high at this point - she was a 'wild one' if you missed the reference)
Pretty sure it's this guy.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/newliberty-122404

Sneaky... lurking but not posting anything about this drama.

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Also note that his account was registered in 2013. Why would he not participate into bitcointalk earlier if he was charmed by Satoshi in 2005... Makes me think that this guy is just lying to get his name around.
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May 05, 2016, 07:54:59 PM
I think that CSW stumbled upon Bitcoin circa 2013 (late 2012 at the earliest) and started concocting a narrative to fit his long con. Stumbling upon the death of David Kleiman, a person who CSW co-wrote with, Craig saw that the pieces of Dave's life fit nicely in what's known about Satoshi. It was just a matter of creating docs to make it look like he and Dave were partners of sorts which I've demonstrated he's done.

Agreed. Beyond co-authoring a couple of works, there is no independent source linking these men as being close. Kleiman's colleagues had no idea who Craig was when he phoned - and why did he leave it 10 months after Dave's death to contact them about 1 million Bitcoin? It's all part of his web of lies to deceive.

I'm still taken aback on how David Kleiman was awarded soldier of the year in 1987 after ONLY one year of service while being a Huey tech in Germany, beating out a million-plus candidates, some of which were perhaps more deserving. Also, he claimed to be a war veteran when he didn't serve in a war zone because ... wait for it ... the US wasn't involved in any conflicts during his stint in the US Army.

Did he though? I wouldn't trust a local news outlet to get the facts straight. Apparently, to become Soldier of the Year you have to engage in the Best Warrior competition. Problem is, it only began in 2002.
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May 05, 2016, 07:51:57 PM
interesting chat with Joseph VaughnPerling. he sounds a little pissed off.

Satoshi Saga Continues: Tulip Trust Trustee Expected to Appear by September 19, Says Joseph VaughnPerling

Joseph VaughnPerling alludes to the Tulip trustee being a woman. Now, who is Joseph VaughnPerling? (I envision Ayn Rand turning her earthworm vibrator on high at this point - she was a 'wild one' if you missed the reference)
Pretty sure it's this guy.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/newliberty-122404

Sneaky... lurking but not posting anything about this drama.

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"Heavenly Father, send me a sign that the man (my real son) I just performed the first online marriage for is gonna meet Satoshi before the advent of Bitcoin. Amen... Red seven on the black eight. Black queen on the red king..."

I'll be an SOB!

http://web.archive.org/web/20050323134911/http://www.vaughn.perling.com/joseph/index.html

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For the first time in WorldsAway, a real-life bride and groom--Victoria Vaughn and groom Joseph Perling--exchanged marriage vows in the WorldsAway virtual chapel via their onscreen personas, known as "avatars.

JVP took his wife's name.
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May 05, 2016, 07:36:09 PM
I liked to dispute here already the case, when there exists no single conclusive proof.

I was already approaching to another unworkable approach: the intuition. We cannot dispute reasonable our intuitive estimation for the cited reasons. If someone will do anyway, its an endless dispute, where the emotions risk to get high very much, do it please in another thread to keep thisone small.

We are not out of arguments, then.

When the cops cannot proof, they cannot listen to the intuition too not, they need to work with indices.

Thats the what we can dispute here, the indices, what speak for and con, that Dave Kleiman is Satoshi Nakamoto. Its police-work, but we can help to the cops, what are not Bitcoin-cracks apriori.

What we need to observe is, that when we cannot proof doubtfree that Dave is Satoshi, we will probably not be able to show with a sufficient credibility, that Dave only is Satoshi. The group-identity is probably not excludeable, but the group membership of diverse individuals is disputeable again. Some members will maybe get discernable quite well by indices. And others will be undiscernible, where we can exclude the membership for resons of absent indices. Thats not a corrupt approach, we just need to be open to all-kind-of indices. If someone was making no trace in the group, his handmark is absent, he isnt Satoshi, its maybe the coffee-cup fetcher of Satoshi, but not Satoshi. Another candidate of group-membership is Hal Finney. It was getting said somewhere, that Hal's stilistic approach of forming the text is closest to Satoshi of all the candidates until. That is a good indice. The individuality of forming the text is reliable quite as a fingerprint. It just had to get well-presented. But we have not to talk of Hal here. The opening of another thread would be appropriate. I will not do, because I will think about Dave.

Note, that we have masses of text of Satoshi. Hundreds of posts and mails. Thats an easy-game. Its rather too much data than not enough. Then we have tons of programs. It was said now somewhere, that Satoshi wasnt a good programmer. Because of the sloppyness, for example. Thats even excellent, the weaknesses are excellent indices. The excellence is the what everyone tries to do.

But we have not too much data, thats the good-news. We are in the Big-Data-Age. Its not too much at far. The stilistic fingerprints are just getting sharper.

To work with indices, the cops need anyway their intuition. It is not possible to examinate all. The world is too big. The cops need the intuition to find the relevant traces. Not for more. We have to stay honest with the indices, what we find, and not to distort them at will in the direction of our intention. And thats not easy, when our intention is strong.

Excuse me, if you dont like to get addressed like students, its not personal, of course. I dont doubt about someone's intelligence or competiency. Its just to address everyone, and to include everyone in the revealings, especially thisones, what didnt see clear, what is really needed and possible. I see, that the dispute is sometimes very casual, its not a working-group, a forum-thread, I know. And I am not the OP of this thread and will not at all create allures of director. But a thread, what achieves an insight is anyway cool more, than a thread of smalltalk or a thread of rooster-fight. To loose time, we can look TV, its even less arduous.
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May 05, 2016, 06:53:23 PM
interesting chat with Joseph VaughnPerling. he sounds a little pissed off.

Satoshi Saga Continues: Tulip Trust Trustee Expected to Appear by September 19, Says Joseph VaughnPerling

Joseph VaughnPerling alludes to the Tulip trustee being a woman. Now, who is Joseph VaughnPerling? (I envision Ayn Rand turning her earthworm vibrator on high at this point - she was a 'wild one' if you missed the reference)
Pretty sure it's this guy.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/newliberty-122404

Sneaky... lurking but not posting anything about this drama.

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legendary
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May 05, 2016, 06:32:35 PM
interesting chat with Joseph VaughnPerling. he sounds a little pissed off.

Satoshi Saga Continues: Tulip Trust Trustee Expected to Appear by September 19, Says Joseph VaughnPerling

Joseph VaughnPerling alludes to the Tulip trustee being a woman. Now, who is Joseph VaughnPerling? (I envision Ayn Rand turning her earthworm vibrator on high at this point - she was a 'wild one' if you missed the reference)
Pretty sure it's this guy.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/newliberty-122404
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May 05, 2016, 06:21:11 PM
Yeah..
.. it was me, what was not straight-on-topic now. But it was anyway close, and belonging really not somewhere else.

But its Dave himself, the thema, here.

It was getting said, that the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto will maybe never get revealed doubtfree.

The question is, what we look as doubtfree proof. We are now hot in the materia. We are now educated of the past days, and dispose about a sharp more competiency in this relation than some days before. All of us, because we were getting confronted with false proofs. Except some cracks, what were learning nothing new.

We learned, that there exists quasi-no proof, what is really conclusive, because everything is manipulateable. The signature, the early blocks. All is, if not manipulateable, then stealable. There exists no single proof, what is really conclusive. Correct me, if Im wrong. Im a Newbie of Bitcoin, the cryptographic interna are out of my competiency.

Its a problem, what needs to get disputed exhausting. We need to create clearness about.

If it is possible, we know, what we need - if not, we know, that we need to create another approach.

My purpose is to dispute this in another thread, because it isnt related to Dave. Me, I will not create it for reasons of absent competiency and because I have the impression, that this clear proof doesnt exist.

Its somehow similar to the God-proof. Many exist, noone is tenable scientifically really.

What leads some in the Atheism, some in the Agnosticism. But the most keep the belief not needing a proof. Some suspect, its conventional, its traditional, its for reasons of conformism only. Others say its the intuition. Thats not covered of the science, of course.  Grin

Dont worry, its not my intention to turn the thread into the religuous, the problem of the belief is that the dispute isnt possible reasonable. Whats the difference between the knowing, the meaning and the believing? The what we believe, we cannot proof exactly, thats why we cannot dispute it scientifically. Because we can only dispute scientifically what we know, the knowledge, nothing else. Okay, stop the unscientific now really. Dont challennge me, dont ask, I will not answer, its really offtopic. Lips sealed
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May 05, 2016, 05:34:26 PM
Calm down..

Oh, many thanks for your worries concerning my exitement-state, you are a sweetheart. Kiss
But I am used about worse.

They will..

Are you sure? And where is the evidence? And who is "they"? The Wright-gang?

I must admit, that you cannot convince me entirely. Grin

In my opinion, its a good idea to pass ideas similar to the what I said to the official instances what are responsible. Thats not an impossibility, of course. This idea isnt ariseing to everyone automatically. The brisance of the situation is maybe not discernible for someone outside of the Bitcoin-scene. Thats what I mean. Its a jokeing-forum here, of course, but its not only a jokeing-forum here, isnt it? The life in what we live is real, not virtual. Its not a computer-game here. Or are all of us responsible not more than the children of the kindergarten?

Me I cant. I am circa 1/2-earth-size away. All what I can, is to produce a workable written purpose, what is at least referenceable, when no better idea occurrs.

Its time to calm down really only, when we get good news from Ira and Louis Kleiman.

But nevertheless, I will not talk about that until then, so..
.. no worries. Grin
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May 05, 2016, 05:04:37 PM
I caught the "overdrive" reference. No prob with that, bud.

I knew. Its not at all a reproach, no stilistic critics. I like.

Apologies for quoting..

No prob with that, terence, me too not. It was again not a reproach, I just asked.

He was a war veteran..
I see, its not Dave, what speaks.

Its a misleading statement: Dave's wheelchair isnt a medal from the Army. Its not a medal from the Sheriff too not. Its reasoned by a motocycle-accident in the free-time. I know, you knew, Gleb. I clarify it for the who didnt know.

Well, this link:
I knew, the show isnt over. I supposed, the retraite of the falseplayer was only strategic.

Its a puzzle for the cops, not for us.

The sharpened cards of the falseplayer are backdating, hacked sources, manipulated digital signatures and corrupted witnesses. Thats expectable.

Dave was a forensic crack. The falseplayer means to be upper. Its a case for the forensic experts really.

At least, every claimed action of Dave in this relation is to control very, very profound. Dave was knocked out in the hospital very much. As well, Dave's compagnons can know very much of Dave's agenda. His buddy looks out quite as uncorruptible as Bud Spencer. Just this claimed director-state in the Hotwire Preemptive Intelligence Pty Ltd seems to be quite impossible. Yes, Hotwire Preemptive Intelligence Et cetera Et cetera, thats the meaningful name. Its the incredible style not of Satoshi. Its the style of someone with an incredible big mouth.

What was the name of Dave's company?

Its a stilistic difference, what is strikeing. What is the name of the blockchain? Is it meaningful?
Correct, the name of the blockchain is blockchain. Because its a chain of blocks. Thats Satoshi. No need to confuse someone by highblown nameing.

The stilistic traces are unmasking obvious and reliant more than fingerprints. The bigmouth of the falseplayers is nonoverlookable. Isnt it?

... BTW

Did you ever think about Gleb's style? Why is this style not a style of falseplayer?
Its not question of being loud or quiet nor a question of being polite or unpolite nor a question of being timid or impudent nor a question of being open or close.

Its a question of being honest or sly.

I have the impression, some have pains to discern the falseplayers here, as 50% were trusting CSW.
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May 05, 2016, 04:58:19 PM
There is the problem of Dave Kleiman's father too. As we know, he is old 92 years and at least partially informed, concerning Dave's infliction with Bitcoin.

But he probably has no idea, what is Satoshi Nakamoto. And that there is a fortune of half a Billion dollar somewhere jammed in the cyberspace, what belongs to Satoshi's successors, so maybe to Dave's successors.

Imagine.

Its a message, what can kill the old man, if it is delivered false. Heart-attacks exist.

My advice: say nothing or say it professional. Its explainable to the old man only when Ira is in security. Its a task for the psychologically hardened public service. Nothing for good-meaning amateurs.
Its first Ira, then Louis. Both need professional help.

Warning: if Ira is really paranoid, he risks to defend himself with the gun, getting accessed violent.

Calm down, his family must know something about all this.

Even if they don't realize this usb stick is potentially worth half billion dollars,
They must know it is potentially of some great value by now?

They will have checked.

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May 05, 2016, 04:06:32 PM
There is the problem of Dave Kleiman's father too. As we know, he is old 92 years and at least partially informed, concerning Dave's infliction with Bitcoin.

But he probably has no idea, what is Satoshi Nakamoto. And that there is a fortune of half a Billion dollar somewhere jammed in the cyberspace, what belongs to Satoshi's successors, so maybe to Dave's successors.

Imagine.

Its a message, what can kill the old man, if it is delivered false. Heart-attacks exist.

My advice: say nothing or say it professional. Its explainable to the old man only when Ira is in security. Its a task for the psychologically hardened public service. Nothing for good-meaning amateurs.
Its first Ira, then Louis. Both need professional help.

Warning: if Ira is really paranoid, he risks to defend himself with the gun, getting accessed violent.
vip
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May 05, 2016, 03:20:30 PM
I'm still taken aback on how David Kleiman was awarded soldier of the year in 1987 after ONLY one year of service while being a Huey tech in Germany, beating out a million-plus candidates, some of which were perhaps more deserving.

Hi Gleb, I dont understand, why you quote me in this relation. I didnt award him.
As far as I can estimate, Dave Kleiman was a very impressive soldier. One has-to-get the laurels, all are only humans. He was a deputy of sheriff before his accident, too. I can imagine him deputy-of-the-year-award capable too. An astonishing imagination of Satoshi Nakamoto, of course. But state-power-critical means not subversive. There is a subtle difference. The libertarians are not against the state, but against the overregulation of the state, against the attraction of too much responsability of the state. Dave was working for the state and for international institutions. A libertarian approach is to make for the state, what is good, and to refuse the what is too much. He wasnt engaged fix nomore. He was very well able to refuse jobs. I see no conflict to Satoshi here, no incompatibility.

Also, he claimed to be a war veteran when he didn't serve in a war zone because ... wait for it ... the US wasn't involved in any conflicts during his stint in the US Army.

I dont know. I never heard about. Was he saying veteran or war-veteran? Was he maybe saying "war-veteran"? We are used to talk in metaphors, what are not takeable literally always.
Little overdrive is not unusual, isnt it, Gleb? Grin

I caught the "overdrive" reference. No prob with that, bud. Apologies for quoting you then going on a different tangent. My thought was to help get the thread back on topic. That was all.

Unless Craig Steven Wright's lawyer(s) lied to a tax agent: https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/2644013/20140226-Meeting-Minutes-Redacted.txt

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Craig Wright had mined a lot of Bitcoins. Craig then took the Bitcoins and put them into a
Seychelles Trust. A bit of it was also put into Singapore. This was run out of an entity from the
UK. Craig had gotten approximately 1.1 million Bitcoins. There was a point in time, when he had
around 10% of all the Bitcoins out there. Mr Kleiman would have had a similar amount. However,
Mr Kleiman passed away during that time. He was a war veteran; he was wheel chair bound.
The deed between Craig Wright and W&K was created in 2012. W&K gave Craig Wrights rights
to the Bitcoins and he has used the Bitcoins to do all this stuff.

Mr Kleiman and Craig Wright decided to start up W&K because they both wanted to get involved
with Bitcoins. They recognised that this industry was not regulated and they wanted to start up a
regulated Bitcoin bank. They knew they couldn’t do this in the US so they wanted to do this in
Australia.

Back to Joseph VaughnPerling. Remember when the following video came out and folks were asking who invited CSW? Wanna take a stab now as to who it was?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdvQTwjVmrE

My EDUCATED guess is that JVP is CSW's spokesperson advancing the "who is SN" narrative.
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May 05, 2016, 03:06:52 PM
I'm still taken aback on how David Kleiman was awarded soldier of the year in 1987 after ONLY one year of service while being a Huey tech in Germany, beating out a million-plus candidates, some of which were perhaps more deserving.

Hi Gleb, I dont understand, why you quote me in this relation. I didnt award him.
As far as I can estimate, Dave Kleiman was a very impressive soldier. One has-to-get the laurels, all are only humans. He was a deputy of sheriff before his accident, too. I can imagine him deputy-of-the-year-award capable too. An astonishing imagination of Satoshi Nakamoto, of course. But state-power-critical means not subversive. There is a subtle difference. The libertarians are not against the state, but against the overregulation of the state, against the attraction of too much responsability of the state. Dave was working for the state and for international institutions. A libertarian approach is to make for the state, what is good, and to refuse the what is too much. He wasnt engaged fix nomore. He was very well able to refuse jobs. I see no conflict to Satoshi here, no incompatibility.

Also, he claimed to be a war veteran when he didn't serve in a war zone because ... wait for it ... the US wasn't involved in any conflicts during his stint in the US Army.

I dont know. I never heard about. Was he saying veteran or war-veteran? Was he maybe saying "war-veteran"? We are used to talk in metaphors, what are not takeable literally always.
Little overdrive is not unusual, isnt it, Gleb? Grin
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May 05, 2016, 02:42:40 PM
Pink Floyd nailed it
Wow, super!
interesting chat with Joseph VaughnPerling. he sounds a little pissed off.

Satoshi Saga Continues: Tulip Trust Trustee Expected to Appear by September 19, Says Joseph VaughnPerling
Thats not over, this game, its what I worry, but its rather a case for the cops to clear this backdateing show up.

Back to Dave's brother, what is alarming:
Ira Kleiman
  • claimed that after his brother’s death, Wright contacted him
  • alleged to possess certain documents concerning Dave
  • declined to provide any concrete information about those documents
  • declined to speak on the record about whether he is in possession of his brother’s hard drives
  • refused to meet
  • refused to speak over the phone
  • sent instead dozens of cagey and cryptic emails and SMS messages
  • would not answer when asked if he believed that Wright had been telling him the truth

Its Ira Kleiman's right, not to speak with the boulevard, of course.

But what if our false-player was not only contacting him, but stalking him and trying to nick something?
What if not only our falseplayer was exerting pressure on Ira Kleiman, but an entire gang?

Ira Kleiman has probably no concrete idea of "Bitcoins". And "Satoshi Nakamoto" is saying him absulutely nothing. And noone was warning him, that there is maybe half a Billion of dollars in his appartment. Especially our falseplayer was letting him unknowingly very intentional, one can guess. Even the reporters of Gizmodo were not able to explain him something understandable maybe, because he was blocking every access, having got already accessed penetrant too much, and having no idea, why all people are suddenly as importunate.

The comportment of Ira Kleiman is at least not excluding, that he is as much under pressure to have an acute paranoid problem.
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May 05, 2016, 02:37:59 PM
interesting chat with Joseph VaughnPerling. he sounds a little pissed off.

Satoshi Saga Continues: Tulip Trust Trustee Expected to Appear by September 19, Says Joseph VaughnPerling

Joseph VaughnPerling alludes to the Tulip trustee being a woman. Now, who is Joseph VaughnPerling? (I envision Ayn Rand turning her earthworm vibrator on high at this point - she was a 'wild one' if you missed the reference)
vip
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May 05, 2016, 02:24:31 PM
Back to the thema:
Gizmodo published already long ago: http://gizmodo.com/this-australian-says-he-and-his-dead-friend-invented-bi-1746958692

I think this could be plausible if Kleiman is Satoshi.

Yeah

I'm still taken aback on how David Kleiman was awarded soldier of the year in 1987 after ONLY one year of service while being a Huey tech in Germany, beating out a million-plus candidates, some of which were perhaps more deserving. Also, he claimed to be a war veteran when he didn't serve in a war zone because ... wait for it ... the US wasn't involved in any conflicts during his stint in the US Army.
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May 05, 2016, 01:56:07 PM
interesting chat with Joseph VaughnPerling. he sounds a little pissed off.

Satoshi Saga Continues: Tulip Trust Trustee Expected to Appear by September 19, Says Joseph VaughnPerling
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