Why so little talk of Dave Kleiman? - page 8.

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Quote from: suchmoon on May 03, 2016, 01:46:10 PM

It's increasingly obvious that despite not being able to present actual cryptographic proof Wright is putting a lot of effort into obfuscation and trying to sway the public opinion, whether it's for his business interests or something else.

You do not seem to understand the math. Either Craig broke SHA256 or he has Satoshi's private key.

Also by getting core Bitcoin devs and their tribe to claim that the proof Craig provided is not a proof, he has revealed them as being disingenuous. Very clever political game theory he has concocted.

Craig has astutely accomplished his goal, as only 42% of Bitcoiners conclude he can't be Satoshi. And when and if Craig signs coins from an early block of Bitcoin, the level of confusion will increase. Craig is playing a political game theory.

Quote from: alani123 on May 04, 2016, 07:33:24 PM

I think bringing in a dead person into this is just a scapegoat by Craig Wright to confuse spectators. If this is true, why would he pretend being Satoshi by signing a fake message? Until Craig comes up with this extraordinary proof he says, I refuse to believe anything that came from him.

Refusing to believe is not the same as proving he is not. Craig is winning the political game theory. He is a clever lawyer mofo.

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You could say Craig Wright is looking For A Few Dollars More

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Quote from: P-Funk on May 04, 2016, 06:28:19 PM

Quote from: Chakraball on May 04, 2016, 12:32:14 PM

Kleiman or somebody died that's for sure.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2644005-DAVID-KLEIMAN-13-0467.html

Ah on page 8 it says his body was found on April 26th 2013. Someone must have visited to wish him a happy birthday Sad

But he didn't die on that day.

Note the birthday below:

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Quote from: st4nl3y on May 04, 2016, 11:43:10 AM

I believe Craig might have created Bitcoin with help of others, mainly Dave. Time will tell.

I think the most sensible theory going is that Kleiman was the voice of Satoshi on this forum; the times during which he posted seems to suggest he was doing it from the states. I think Wright probably wrote the white paper and had Kleiman edit it.

Here's a good article: http://gizmodo.com/is-dave-kleiman-the-missing-link-in-craig-wrights-satos-1774519534

I think that CSW stumbled upon Bitcoin circa 2013 (late 2012 at the earliest) and started concocting a narrative to fit his long con. Stumbling upon the death of David Kleiman, a person who CSW co-wrote with, Craig saw that the pieces of Dave's life fit nicely in what's known about Satoshi. It was just a matter of creating docs to make it look like he and Dave were partners of sorts which I've demonstrated he's done.

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/2644004/INVESTIGATIVE-REPORT-13-0467.txt

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Quote from: st4nl3y on May 04, 2016, 11:43:10 AM

I believe Craig might have created Bitcoin with help of others, mainly Dave. Time will tell.

I think the most sensible theory going is that Kleiman was the voice of Satoshi on this forum; the times during which he posted seems to suggest he was doing it from the states. I think Wright probably wrote the white paper and had Kleiman edit it.

Here's a good article: http://gizmodo.com/is-dave-kleiman-the-missing-link-in-craig-wrights-satos-1774519534

nice, thanks!

this whole story is as ugly as possible and the main reason for the large confusion right now is pure greed.

it seems the hunt for the satoshi million has started.

for me david kleiman is the real SN and wright is just a fucking bastard!

And the hunt for Satoshi's millions all started on the day Dave was born...

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Quote from: BlindMayorBitcorn on May 04, 2016, 06:02:43 PM

Quote from: st4nl3y on May 04, 2016, 11:43:10 AM

I believe Craig might have created Bitcoin with help of others, mainly Dave. Time will tell.

I think the most sensible theory going is that Kleiman was the voice of Satoshi on this forum; the times during which he posted seems to suggest he was doing it from the states. I think Wright probably wrote the white paper and had Kleiman edit it.

Here's a good article: http://gizmodo.com/is-dave-kleiman-the-missing-link-in-craig-wrights-satos-1774519534

nice, thanks!

this whole story is as ugly as possible and the main reason for the large confusion right now is pure greed.

it seems the hunt for the satoshi million has started.

for me david kleiman is the real SN and wright is just a fucking bastard!

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Quote from: Chakraball on May 04, 2016, 12:32:14 PM

Kleiman or somebody died that's for sure.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2644005-DAVID-KLEIMAN-13-0467.html

Ah on page 8 it says his body was found on April 26th 2013. Someone must have visited to wish him a happy birthday Sad

But he didn't die on that day.

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Quote from: st4nl3y on May 04, 2016, 11:43:10 AM

I believe Craig might have created Bitcoin with help of others, mainly Dave. Time will tell.

I think the most sensible theory going is that Kleiman was the voice of Satoshi on this forum; the times during which he posted seems to suggest he was doing it from the states. I think Wright probably wrote the white paper and had Kleiman edit it.

Here's a good article: http://gizmodo.com/is-dave-kleiman-the-missing-link-in-craig-wrights-satos-1774519534

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From the WBM dated April 5, 2003: http://web.archive.org/web/20040405113415/http://isecureu.com/NM/about/about.asp

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About Security Solutions Center:
Our staff has over 20 years of Information Systems experience including networking, security, and internet services.
Our mission is to consistently deliver optimum secure solutions to our customers that increase their business productivity.
To meet the challenge our clients face, our professionals strive to maintain a comprehensive understanding and awareness of advanced technologies to determine which will best address their business requirements in a cost-effective manner.
Our goal is to be recognized and respected by our clients as a company dedicated to providing best-of-class service that is secure, reliable, timely, affordable, and always available.

Security Solutions Principal Consultant is David Kleiman:
As a recognized security expert, David brings 14 years of professional experience in Information Security Management to the Security Solutions Center Team. He specializes in Computer Forensics Investigations, Incident Response, Intrusion Analysis, Security Audits, and Secure Network Infrastructures. He has written several Windows NT/2000 technologies secure installation and configuration guides for use by network professionals. David has developed a Windows Operating System lockdown tool that surpasses NSA, NIST, and Microsoft Common Criteria Guidelines.

David is a member of:
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The Information Systems Audit and Control Association (ISACA)
The International Information Systems Forensics Association (IISFA)

He holds the following certifications:
Certified Information Systems Security Professional (CISSP)
Certified Information Security Manager (CISM)
Certified Information Forensics Investigator™ (CIFI)
Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer (MCSE)
F.D.L.E. Certified Law Enforcement Officer (Inactive)

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From the desk of A Person Closely Working with the FBI Possessing More Secure Shit than the NSA and ain't goin' Share if with Them:

Eight years later: http://web.archive.org/web/20120205000420/http://www.davekleiman.com/computer-forensics-expert-florida-miami-palm-beach-lauderdale-dave-kleiman-about.php

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About Computer Forensic Expert Dave Kleiman of Florida:

Certified Computer Forensics Expert Examiner with strong experience in Information Security. As a recognized security expert, I have over 15 years of professional experience in Information Security Management. A former Florida certified law enforcement officer, I specialize in Computer Forensic Examinations, Data Recovery, Electronic Discovery, Litigation Support, Incident Response, and Intrusion Analysis. I developed a Windows Operating System lockdown tool, S-Lok™, which surpasses NSA, NIST, and Microsoft Common Criteria guidelines.

On April 5, 2004: David Klieman, fresh out of the Army and in law enforcement in circa 1990, already had 14 years experience in computer forensics, in spite of not getting formal education in said field until after his accident in 1995.

On February 5, 2012: David Klieman had over 15 years experience in said field, this somewhat undisputed.

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Quote from: AgentofCoin on May 04, 2016, 02:17:04 PM

Quote from: NorrisK on May 04, 2016, 02:11:57 PM

Quote from: Gleb Gamow on May 04, 2016, 01:24:10 PM

Quote from: Chakraball on May 04, 2016, 12:32:14 PM

Kleiman or somebody died that's for sure.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2644005-DAVID-KLEIMAN-13-0467.html

Surely, I get bonus points for postin' a pic of Satoshi's penis, don't I? Here's to hopin' that "Foley" didn't stick a banana up Satoshi's tailpipe durin' the examination.

You are aware that "Foley" is a type of cathether that is intended to be placed in the urethra to drain urine from the urinary bladder?

It is just mentioning that a cathether was placed inside the penis at the time of autopsy.

Typical Norris.... Always raining on our parade.

(Foley actually means that at the time of death, Kleiman had a cathether in,
since he was paralyzed as evident by the report's mention of numerous ulcers
and sores on his behind, presumably from constantly sitting in that wheelchair.)

Yeah, [Chuck] Norris, quit ruinin' our parade.

Back on-topic. Is it common practice to proclaim the day of death as when a decomposing body is first discovered like done here with David Kleiman? Clearly, Dave died days before April 26, 2013, and not on it.

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Quote from: NorrisK on May 04, 2016, 02:11:57 PM

Quote from: Gleb Gamow on May 04, 2016, 01:24:10 PM

Quote from: Chakraball on May 04, 2016, 12:32:14 PM

Kleiman or somebody died that's for sure.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2644005-DAVID-KLEIMAN-13-0467.html

Surely, I get bonus points for postin' a pic of Satoshi's penis, don't I? Here's to hopin' that "Foley" didn't stick a banana up Satoshi's tailpipe durin' the examination.

You are aware that "Foley" is a type of cathether that is intended to be placed in the urethra to drain urine from the urinary bladder?

It is just mentioning that a cathether was placed inside the penis at the time of autopsy.

Typical Norris.... Always raining on our parade.

(Foley actually means that at the time of death, Kleiman had a cathether in,
since he was paralyzed as evident by the report's mention of numerous ulcers
and sores on his behind, presumably from constantly sitting in that wheelchair.)

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Quote from: Gleb Gamow on May 04, 2016, 01:24:10 PM

Quote from: Chakraball on May 04, 2016, 12:32:14 PM

Kleiman or somebody died that's for sure.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2644005-DAVID-KLEIMAN-13-0467.html

Surely, I get bonus points for postin' a pic of Satoshi's penis, don't I? Here's to hopin' that "Foley" didn't stick a banana up Satoshi's tailpipe durin' the examination.

You are aware that "Foley" is a type of cathether that is intended to be placed in the urethra to drain urine from the urinary bladder?

It is just mentioning that a cathether was placed inside the penis at the time of autopsy.

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Quote from: AgentofCoin on May 04, 2016, 11:52:14 AM

Quote from: st4nl3y on May 04, 2016, 11:43:10 AM

I believe Craig might have created Bitcoin with help of others, mainly Dave. Time will tell.

Hey I would just like to, on behalf of everyone here, thank you for your analysis and
deep thought before posting your comment. I'm sure you expended a lot of valuable time
writing and providing such insight and we all just really gosh-darn appreciate it.

Thanks for being you. Kiss

With all my love,
AgentofCoin

No problem. If you need help with anything else just ask Grin

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Quote from: Gleb Gamow on May 04, 2016, 01:24:10 PM

Quote from: Chakraball on May 04, 2016, 12:32:14 PM

Kleiman or somebody died that's for sure.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2644005-DAVID-KLEIMAN-13-0467.html

Surely, I get bonus points for postin' a pic of Satoshi's penis, don't I? Here's to hopin' that "Foley" didn't stick a banana up Satoshi's tailpipe durin' the examination.

Gleb may have dug up the most important discovery about Satoshi to date!
He has done what others have only dreamed of.
We now have confirmation that Satoshi's penis' name was Foley.

So, Satoshi didn't work alone after all. There was also Foley.

(+10,000 Bonus Points to Gleb, and I throw in 10 strips of Gold-Pressed Latinum.)

Here is Foley's Bitcointalk account: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/davefoleys-66960
Clearly there are no posts, since he has no hands/fingers to type.
It is assumed Kleiman set this account up for him. Unless CSW was behind this as well.

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Quote from: Chakraball on May 04, 2016, 12:32:14 PM

Kleiman or somebody died that's for sure.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2644005-DAVID-KLEIMAN-13-0467.html

Surely, I get bonus points for postin' a pic of Satoshi's penis, don't I? Here's to hopin' that "Foley" didn't stick a banana up Satoshi's tailpipe durin' the examination.

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Kleiman or somebody died that's for sure.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2644005-DAVID-KLEIMAN-13-0467.html

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Quote from: Chakraball on May 04, 2016, 12:11:38 PM

Quote from: adamstgBit on May 03, 2016, 09:12:34 PM

Quote from: adamstgBit on May 03, 2016, 08:53:31 PM

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2644014-Tulip-Trust-Redacted.html

this document implies Craig Wright is Satoshi when it says

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I acknowledge:

Dave Kleiman have received 1,100,111 Bitcoin from Craig Wright (of?Bagnoo,
NSW Australia).

is this even legit?
when was this writen?
did they put the hash of this document on the blockchain somewhere?

it seems really fishy, why would Craig Wright give his bitcoin to a trust? what's the point?

File name Tulip_Trust_Redacted

Created: 08/12/2015 22:11:59

Modified: 08/12/2015 22:11:59

Advanced

PDF Producer: Mac OS X 10.11.1 Quartz PDFContext
PDF Version: (Acrobat 5.x)1.4

Interesting name Tulip_Trust considering - http://domainbigdata.com/tuliptrading.net

Some other interesting documents there too.

Who is John Cook ?

https://www.documentcloud.org/public/search/david%20kleiman

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Quote from: adamstgBit on May 03, 2016, 09:12:34 PM

Quote from: adamstgBit on May 03, 2016, 08:53:31 PM

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2644014-Tulip-Trust-Redacted.html

this document implies Craig Wright is Satoshi when it says

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I acknowledge:

Dave Kleiman have received 1,100,111 Bitcoin from Craig Wright (of?Bagnoo,
NSW Australia).

is this even legit?
when was this writen?
did they put the hash of this document on the blockchain somewhere?

it seems really fishy, why would Craig Wright give his bitcoin to a trust? what's the point?

File name Tulip_Trust_Redacted

Created: 08/12/2015 22:11:59

Modified: 08/12/2015 22:11:59

Advanced

PDF Producer: Mac OS X 10.11.1 Quartz PDFContext
PDF Version: (Acrobat 5.x)1.4

Interesting name Tulip_Trust considering - http://domainbigdata.com/tuliptrading.net

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Quote from: st4nl3y on May 04, 2016, 11:43:10 AM

I believe Craig might have created Bitcoin with help of others, mainly Dave. Time will tell.

Hey I would just like to, on behalf of everyone here, thank you for your analysis and
deep thought before posting your comment. I'm sure you expended a lot of valuable time
writing and providing such insight and we all just really gosh-darn appreciate it.

Thanks for being you. Kiss

With all my love,
AgentofCoin

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I believe Craig might have created Bitcoin with help of others, mainly Dave. Time will tell.

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Quote from: Gyrsur on May 04, 2016, 10:28:58 AM

Quote from: P-Funk on May 04, 2016, 10:13:25 AM

learn2read

edit: Maybe it wasn't so obvious. http://www.pbcgov.com/medicalexaminer/MEDatabase.htm/

ok thanks! i found the record. next step would be to contact the investigator and ask him.

is it difficult to fake a death in the US? i mean you have no registration record of the existens of a human as far as i know. just the driver license, right?

Are you asking whether there is a US centralized government database with proof of his existence?

If so, I guess you could argue that the Social Security Administration would confirm his existence,
since they would have issued a Social Security Number at birth, and then terminated that number
after they receive some confirmation of his death or death certificate.

But ultimately, I'm sure Kleiman is dead. Faking someone's death and having the medical provable
backstory with years of medical pain and suffering BEFORE bitcoin was even that valuable, would be
amazing foresight and pre-planning of the likes of a time traveler.

Quote from: ddink7 on May 04, 2016, 11:10:07 AM

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It's also possible that Kleiman wrote the first version of the Bitcoin code, and that CW took over testing, bug fixing, and future development. Kleiman could have written the code, while CW could have been the "Satoshi" that communicated extensively with Gavin and others...

If your theory is considered to be true, why didn't CSW continue talking to Gavin and others?
Why would CSW disappear? Also there are issues with whether CSW even really understands
certain aspects of Bitcoin/bitcoin and how it actually functions and its shortfalls.
It would be more likely (IMO) that Kleiman, if was Satoshi, was in communication with Gavin and others.

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I just came up with another theory though...we might be missing the forest for the trees. Much of what CW has said has proven sketchy, or even downright lies (claiming multiple fake phd's for instance). We do know one thing that's incontrovertible: CW was very interested in high performance computing / supercomputing. Think about that for a minute.

Now what if Kleiman, being the typical computer geek, enjoyed the intellectual challenge of creating the code but had little interest in testing...and asked his friend CW to help test Bitcoin by mining. It's very possible that CW could own Block 1, and even if not, it's still possible that a significant part of Satoshi's stash...actually doesn't belong to Satoshi. What if most/all the coins we thought were Satoshi's were actually CW's?

It's also possible that Kleiman wrote the first version of the Bitcoin code, and that CW took over testing, bug fixing, and future development. Kleiman could have written the code, while CW could have been the "Satoshi" that communicated extensively with Gavin and others...

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