Trust depth 2 is not default trust (Trust depth 1) unless I am wrong.
People see trust depth 2 trust ratings same way as depth 1. So yes it is (almost the same), they just can't add more people.
Topic: Why some donators are in default Trust list ? (Read 4654 times)
People see trust depth 2 trust ratings same way as depth 1. So yes it is (almost the same), they just can't add more people.
Trust depth 2 is not default trust (Trust depth 1) unless I am wrong.
Zaih is not on defaulttrust, what are you talking about ems?
Actually bro he was under theymos before.
Theymos removed him after I did complaint.
Why theymos is forcing his personal trust on others?
Peoples like Zaih doesn't deserve to be on default trust list at all.
He need to remove him or set default trust depth to 1.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3024886
Peoples like Zaih doesn't deserve to be on default trust list at all.
He need to remove him or set default trust depth to 1.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3024886
Zaih is not on defaulttrust, what are you talking about ems?
--snip snip--
I've done a few trades, given tons of feedback but I still have no feedback. Seems it's just too much effort for people.
Slightly offtopic but there should be something to make the process of OTC feedback quicker too - just click a button rather than:
connect to irc, ident, auth with gpg, find user you want to rate, ident that user, decide on wieght to rate, rate the user and comment the user.
Slightly offtopic but there should be something to make the process of OTC feedback quicker too - just click a button rather than:
connect to irc, ident, auth with gpg, find user you want to rate, ident that user, decide on wieght to rate, rate the user and comment the user.
It's not because TradeFortress is necessarily trusted by theymos, or anything like that. If you read what theymos said, it's because TradeFortress and the people he trusts give accurate ratings, both negative and positive. Not because theymos endorses anything that TradeFortress does, although he may have his own opinion.
Theymos why do you want every newbie and other members to trust a anonymous guy 'TradeFortress"
Do you have his info?
He's actually fully supportive of TF. Do you have his info?
Theymos you should do something about scammers, peoples are still getting scammed as sometimes they don't check Trust ratings and from outside members profile looks fine even with negative rating.
I agree, one should have:
- Red marker growing flashy as your trusted list leave negative feedback.
- Orange marker growing flashy as everyone leaves negative feedback.
- Yellow marker growing flashy as everyone leaves leaves positive feebdack.
- Green marker growing flashy as your trusted list leaves positive feedback.
Also, clicking on those markers to go to the user trust feedbacks page would be great.
Cause It's confusing to have some users allowing you a direct click to their trust and others not.
There's nothing like a default trust system in #bitcoin-otc. That's bullshit. It's a full trust network, this is just a LIST and there are just a few members who can add people on the list.
As I said, MANY don't even know such thing as DefaultTrust list EXISTS. And you talk about falling for obvious scams.. Read this thread and look the parts which tell things about TradeFortress.
I think it's very clear that TradeFortress doesn't belong on that list. The password/account access asking @IRC by TradeFortress is a big enough reason to delete him from the list immediately. Why don't you comment these obvious things?
+1
Theymos why do you want every newbie and other members to trust a anonymous guy 'TradeFortress"
Do you have his info?
Theymos you should do something about scammers, peoples are still getting scammed as sometimes they don't check Trust ratings and from outside members profile looks fine even with negative rating.
#bitcoin-otc / Web of Trust @ Freenode works very well. There are no "default trust lists", removal of ratings or anything like that in there.
#bitcoin-otc does have something like a default trust list, in fact. You're not allowed to rate people if you don't have a positive rating, so everyone in the WoT needs to be indirectly trusted by nanotube.
Bottom line is Tradefortress isn't the material many of us consider trustworthy by default. There is more to being trustworthy than simply paying back debt.
Then replace DefaultTrust with other users in your trust list. The main purpose of the trust system is to prevent newbies from falling for obvious scams, so there needs to be some sort of default trust list.
It is sad, people like Erik, Charlie Sherm, Roger Ver, Charles Lee, Jared, should I go on? I mean how are these people passed over for spots on the default trust list? Makes no sense, but this is one of the downfalls of this forum.
Those people don't actually use the trust system much AFAIK, so adding them to DefaultTrust would be pointless. DefaultTrust is not a list of trustworthy people. It's a list of people who give accurate ratings and trust people who give accurate ratings.
There's nothing like a default trust system in #bitcoin-otc. That's bullshit. It's a full trust network, this is just a LIST and there are just a few members who can add people on the list.
As I said, MANY don't even know such thing as DefaultTrust list EXISTS. And you talk about falling for obvious scams.. Read this thread and look the parts which tell things about TradeFortress.
I think it's very clear that TradeFortress doesn't belong on that list. The password/account access asking @IRC by TradeFortress is a big enough reason to delete him from the list immediately. Why don't you comment these obvious things?
Bottom line is Tradefortress isn't the material many of us consider trustworthy by default. There is more to being trustworthy than simply paying back debt.
The main purpose of the trust system is to prevent newbies from falling for obvious scams, so there needs to be some sort of default trust list.Like being trapped in a malicious credit game? Yes, yes I get you are with TF on that one.
I still hope that some day you'll see the facts more clearly.
#bitcoin-otc / Web of Trust @ Freenode works very well. There are no "default trust lists", removal of ratings or anything like that in there.
#bitcoin-otc does have something like a default trust list, in fact. You're not allowed to rate people if you don't have a positive rating, so everyone in the WoT needs to be indirectly trusted by nanotube.
Bottom line is Tradefortress isn't the material many of us consider trustworthy by default. There is more to being trustworthy than simply paying back debt.
Then replace DefaultTrust with other users in your trust list. The main purpose of the trust system is to prevent newbies from falling for obvious scams, so there needs to be some sort of default trust list.
It is sad, people like Erik, Charlie Sherm, Roger Ver, Charles Lee, Jared, should I go on? I mean how are these people passed over for spots on the default trust list? Makes no sense, but this is one of the downfalls of this forum.
Those people don't actually use the trust system much AFAIK, so adding them to DefaultTrust would be pointless. DefaultTrust is not a list of trustworthy people. It's a list of people who give accurate ratings and trust people who give accurate ratings.
You could say it's my fault for enabling this to happen in the first place even through I gained nothing, but this is not "stepping on other people".
As far as I am concerned it doesn't really matter which analogy you find fitting, this wasn't a class act period. Being smug about it makes things worse.
This is also the difference between "having an orange ignore button" and "loss of integrity due to harmful actions".
You are a sociopath, an intelligent one, but never the less as disruptive as the commonplace retard.
I just realised I'm in the default trust list 
Not entirely sure why. But great!
Not entirely sure why. But great!
No you are not, you are in theymos's Trust List.
I just realised I'm in the default trust list
Not entirely sure why. But great!
Not entirely sure why. But great!
Bottom line is Tradefortress isn't the material many of us consider trustworthy by default.
You expect to get a lot of hate when you wrote RippleScam.org 
Generally "many of us" (see Viceroy, gweedo, ElectricMucus, that ripple shill I can't remember) have bright orange ignore ratings.
MPOE-PR is in the piss-orange club too, and they're a central part of the Bitcoin economy. Expressing ones opinion which isn't popular is one thing doing business is another,
I see it as an honour that so many ideology minded people can't stand me.
Bottom line is Tradefortress isn't the material many of us consider trustworthy by default.
You expect to get a lot of hate when you wrote RippleScam.org He had ~10 BTC vulnerable.
I took it before someone else could and asked where he wants it sent to.
Despite telling in no unclear words that someone else will take it again, he says he wanted it back on ripple. He wants someone else to take it so he can yell "tradefortress is very untrustworthy".
You could say it's my fault for enabling this to happen in the first place even through I gained nothing, but this is not "stepping on other people".
Quote
No one cares about ignore ratings.
They certainly show a significant amount of people on the forum has a better experience not seeing your messages
Talking with gweedo and ElectricMucus is as effective as Goat vs BadBear or MPOE-PR vs JoelKartz, unless you have something better to say I will be making better use of my time (ie not responding to your posts).
Bottom line is Tradefortress isn't the material many of us consider trustworthy by default.
You expect to get a lot of hate when you wrote RippleScam.org You haven't lost integrity with affiliating with this site, but by stepping on other people by trying to make your point.
Jump to: