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November 20, 2017, 11:49:30 AM
#48
It is a general term I think, 'anti government' and can be expanded to be 'anti establishment' to include the financial institutions which seem to do their own thing with 'our' funds.
just go back to 2007 when the sh1t hot the fan and there was financial chaos all because of how the banks were run on the lead up to that.
many many people lost a lot and many many people who had not contributed to the corruption are still paying for it.
these factors infleuenced to creation of bitcoin and why so many people are not willing to get burned again
legendary
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November 20, 2017, 11:38:37 AM
#47
Government is in direct competition with BTC and Cryptos and vice versa via their fiat creation.
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November 20, 2017, 11:27:52 AM
#46
Being decentralized and not controlled by government doesn't means that we are anti government. We are just enjoying the freedom of earning income solely for ourselves, without thinking that the salary for the overtime work just goes to the pocket of some bad officials. But it is just fine if the taxes that we pay is really for the development of the economy of a country.
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November 20, 2017, 10:00:36 AM
#45
There is no scientific calculation involved in this statement; everyone will try to save power in their hands rather than shifting to other. And in this case Bitcoin being decentralized can take away greater benefits from government like taxation, banks and investment schemes and so on. Hence, government is trying to come up with regulations so that both users and government can enjoy Bitcoin transactions rather than imposing a ban on it.
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November 20, 2017, 09:39:59 AM
#44
I have realized that almost every body is anti government when it comes to bitcoin and be decentralized or not being controlled by government.  Grin
No one here is anti-government. But yes the idea of bitcoin itself is quite anti-government. People here just want to be the real owner of their money and dont want to give up any share out of their money to someone. But what they don't realize is that instead of any national government we have a set of miners here to whom we actually end up paying taxes(or fees). So its nothing called anti-government in bitcoin too.
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November 20, 2017, 09:29:23 AM
#43
I have realized that almost every body is anti government when it comes to bitcoin and be decentralized or not being controlled by government.  Grin
There is nothing wrong in that.People have suffered a lot due to government's policies and heavy taxes laid on them.They have faced strict regulations regarding transactions and their economic activities have been accountable to government authorities.This is the first time they have started to enjoy financial freedom and they need not have to disclose any personal information for sending even very huge amounts to any where around the world.So,they just don't want to once again lose their freedom in the hands of government.
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November 20, 2017, 08:18:10 AM
#42
I have realized that almost every body is anti government when it comes to bitcoin and be decentralized or not being controlled by government.  Grin

We generally don't like the governments getting too involved with our personal, financial/economic, social lives so when we start using a technology like Bitcoin which not only gives us a choice to steer clear of governmental regulations/interference, but also empowers us economically, I guess we naturally tend to be anti-government when it comes to Bitcoin. The sentiment behind the creation of Bitcoin is anti-government, but does that mean all Bitcoin users are anti-government? Nope. Different philosophies, while for a few anti-government/anarchism/agorism is appealing, censorship-resistant border-less means of exchange does matter, and for others these aspects doesn't count much.
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November 20, 2017, 06:00:00 AM
#41
I am not anti government its our mind set that we are following and we don't want that government's decision can give us loss.
Although if government bans the crypto currencies in my country I'll respect their decisions, but also find out the alternative of that.

I do not like you who are too obedient to the government that prohibits crypto currency. if in my country prohibits crypto currency then I will do a rally so the government can accept crypto currency.
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November 18, 2017, 07:26:35 PM
#40
I have realized that almost every body is anti government when it comes to bitcoin and be decentralized or not being controlled by government.  Grin
it's not like that we aren't opposing the government we don't like the centralized way of holding money like banks and also bitcoin is a convenient way of sending money online without using your credit card or debit card and put all your details online making you and your money vulnerable for stealing it. We all know that if a website that you made a purchase was hacked and all of customer credit card details had been shown it's over you will see the charges you didn't purchase online.
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November 18, 2017, 07:04:25 PM
#39
"Anti government" probably isn't a fair description. "Anti big government" may be more accurate a term.

I think most recognize citizens of a nation don't need to pay 40% to 50% real tax rates to fund schools, roads, police & other socialist programs. If state programs were run efficiently the cost should be far lower. On a subconscious level people recognize the system is broken somewhere, even if they aren't aware of details relating to specifics.

In the 1600's the working class enjoyed 189 holidays or days off per year. Today that number has been reduced nearer to 104 on average. It probably doesn't take a genius to realize the hours of the average work day is increasing, wages are decreasing while rent, taxes and other liabilities are going up. In the 1950s many could afford a new home, new car & other luxuries with only 1 person in a household working full time. Today to afford the same luxuries typically both parents must work full time. The dream of being a home owner, putting ones kids through college, being able to afford healthcare. All of these things are becoming increasingly difficult to achieve.

Then there are the long list of broken promises politicians have made over the last few decades. The inability on the part of the state to prevent disasters like the economic collapse of 2008, which many economists predicted 2-3 years in advance. The inability to fix basic issues relating to job markets, outsourcing of jobs, taxes, deficit, debt, streamlining of operations, fixing of healthcare, etc.

Decentralization also is not "anti government". Its moreso dividing power and influence in such a way as to make it difficult for systems to become centralized and exploited.

Well this is one of the topics that anyone of us make us dilemma. If you're facing this kind of situation, You will notice that Government is unfair. They are limiting the rights of every people in their country. But you will see how their law works, It strictly limits an every person in their country.
In the other hand, Many people must invest in Bitcoin. You know why? Because it will help you in many ways, including saving and earning money.
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November 18, 2017, 06:59:50 PM
#38
I have realized that almost every body is anti government when it comes to bitcoin and be decentralized or not being controlled by government.  Grin

Not necessarily anti-government. There are just some features of the government that seem to be encroaching to the choice and freedom of the people. While it may also be about how tolerant we are to the government and its actions, some people are feeling that they are already choked and such feeling will lead into a kind of revolution, although not an armed one. Bitcoin is another direct effect of this feeling, not just against the government of course but also to the banks.
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November 18, 2017, 06:55:50 PM
#37
I can feel most of the sentiments here, high taxes, broken promises, the rich becoming richer and the poor become poorer. But I myself is not anti-government, I love my current government it that the mode of living of the common people has not somewhat improved. And I'm lucky that we have a government that's pro-bitcoin so that already a plus for us bitcoiners. If other government would just accept bitcoin and legalized it then we are really going to see bright future for most of the bitcoin enthusiast, however, there are nations who don't understand bitcoin, that's why they hate their government.
I too am not an anti government but rather I would say I use bitcoin because of decentralization and for the convenience of sending money online. I like to use it because transactions can be done without no middle man and it is not controlled by an entity. Money is more secure in btc if you store it right. I don't hate any nation though for not understanding bitcoin. It is normal that some won't understand the benefits it bring.
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November 18, 2017, 06:49:39 PM
#36
I have realized that almost every body is anti government when it comes to bitcoin and be decentralized or not being controlled by government.  Grin

The government themselves are not somewhat happy that the people are finding a way out to source a living and not through them. It is a threat when the source of earnings of the masses elude them. They feel the most that citizens are meant to be loyal to them and beg their way through to get what they rightfully deserve. And the issue of not being able to tax earnings made from Cryptocurrency is a real concern too. I believe with time they can work and find their way through proper dialogue.
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November 18, 2017, 06:35:56 PM
#35
I don't like the government. It strips people of their rights and steals from them.
If you think you have rights just wait until you get into trouble with some high ranked official. You'll see how the law usually works. For them to destroy a person is like taking a piss, just a normal daily routine.
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November 18, 2017, 06:22:21 PM
#34
I have realized that almost every body is anti government when it comes to bitcoin and be decentralized or not being controlled by government.  Grin
We can see that there are big taxes if government already know it, there is possibilities that it will be more strictly to use. We it is not anti government but it's not yet the time that government know it accurately they must learn it for them to understand us.
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November 18, 2017, 06:18:11 PM
#33
I have realized that almost every body is anti government when it comes to bitcoin and be decentralized or not being controlled by government.  Grin
I'm not anti goverment at all. Just because it's their usually work to do with things that they can't controlled. Bitcoin is just one of them.
legendary
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November 18, 2017, 06:11:16 PM
#32
I can feel most of the sentiments here, high taxes, broken promises, the rich becoming richer and the poor become poorer. But I myself is not anti-government, I love my current government it that the mode of living of the common people has not somewhat improved. And I'm lucky that we have a government that's pro-bitcoin so that already a plus for us bitcoiners. If other government would just accept bitcoin and legalized it then we are really going to see bright future for most of the bitcoin enthusiast, however, there are nations who don't understand bitcoin, that's why they hate their government.
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November 18, 2017, 05:58:49 PM
#31
I have realized that almost every body is anti government when it comes to bitcoin and be decentralized or not being controlled by government.  Grin
Actually it is not about anti government, it is just that government has no full control over bitcoim..There is government who really acknowledges bitcoin and recognized it as a form of payment. Bitcoin have its decentralized feature that the government can only do is to rehulate it and not merely have full control over it. Basically, bitcoin can stand without government it is an independent system which allows anyone to have it and use it in any way they want. Evem big government canmot maniulate it.

If the government wants control of Bitcoin, it can get control of Bitcoin. This isn't a debatable thing. The government has many powers to control the people and could even decide to shut down the internet if they wanted. They could regulate crypto so much it would be impossible to use. Let us just be happy that this is not happening, yet at least, and continue working to grow the space.
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November 18, 2017, 05:48:59 PM
#30
I have realized that almost every body is anti government when it comes to bitcoin and be decentralized or not being controlled by government.  Grin
Because they dont benefit from it. They cant control it and they cant corrupt it.
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November 18, 2017, 05:46:00 PM
#29
I have realized that almost every body is anti government when it comes to bitcoin and be decentralized or not being controlled by government.  Grin
Actually it is not about anti government, it is just that government has no full control over bitcoim..There is government who really acknowledges bitcoin and recognized it as a form of payment. Bitcoin have its decentralized feature that the government can only do is to rehulate it and not merely have full control over it. Basically, bitcoin can stand without government it is an independent system which allows anyone to have it and use it in any way they want. Evem big government canmot maniulate it.
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