Topic: Why the darkcoin/dash/dashpay instamine matters - page 14. (Read 47804 times)

Those who lost funds to Mt Gox did so on their own volition, including the Mt Gox Terms of Service which I assume had the necessary legal disclaimers about culpability for theft. Does that mean the investors weren't scammed?

Those who invest in a token on their own volition, inherently expect that the market for those tokens is not manipulated by the insiders controlling the float by having a scam scheme to control > 50% of the tokens in existence. Satoshi controls maybe at most 1% of the Bitcoins that will be in existence.

Criminals find clever ways to obscure their crimes such as your Dash accomplice semantic slime quoted above, but that still doesn't make them legal. IANAL but I am reasonably certain that Evan and the unnamed insiders have broken the laws that the SEC and FinCEN are tasked to enforce.

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I just don't see how pretending to not have committed scams can be tolerated. It would be different if Evan stopped lying about intentionally doing the instamine instead of claiming it was an accident which I have explained is implausible because every lead developer will be monitoring his coin carefully on launch to see the coins are being issued at the correct rate. It doesn't take hours to make that determination. Also dEBRUYNE has provided quotes of Evan as additional evidence that he is lying.

If Evan stopped trying to obscure the fact that he intentionally set up a way to control the float and > 50% of the tokens, then we could say that investors have full disclosure and thus if they are scammed it is on their own FULLY INFORMED volition.

Until Evan makes FULL DISCLOSURE of the truth, then he is scammer. There is no other valid sentiment.

Even if disclosure were made now, there have been two years of deception, obfuscation, and spin (not only by Evan but by the other useful idiots like AlexGR who, assuming no more explicit involvement, got in early and allowed themselves to be recruited by their own greed as accomplices). That can't be erased from history any more than MtGox would cease to be a scam if Karpeles showed up and told us the missing coins, that he misled people about for possibly years, was all just a big accident.

Anyone who bought Dash on the basis, in whole or part, of misleading statements from Evan or the others and then lost money has been scammed.

Thus a correction is needed:

This kind of people are doing nothing in real world. They maybe wanted to but can't, hence posting 24/7 in here to beg for approval from anybody.

...I see a few Dash clones popping up...

If Dash wants to become legit for Evolution, then relaunch with a fair mining distribution. And remove the dividends for masternode scheme. Simple.

Both of which are absolutely necessary for any serious adoption by users due third party investment into the ecosystem (e.g. network effects).

It is quite possible to get off the scam list (although the historic scam record remains), but the Dash insiders don't want to give up their scam.

You should change your username for AttentionWhore next time, then it would be obvious

A cocaine dealer has real victims even though they consented to buying the dope.

Do harmful activities and you are not a positive force for society.

You really need to work on understanding some basic facts about being a positive versus negative force in society. You accusing me of being immoral is akin to the murderer accusing the prison warden of capital punishment.

Perhaps you are young and need to gain some wisdom of the years.

Here in Davao, there is no BS. Deal drugs, you die. Simple.

Edit: for comparison:

@AlexGR, at least one person missed the launch due to Evan Duffield launching earlier than he said he would. That should be considered as someone (in)directly being "ripped off" in my opinion. See:


@Gleb Gamow, see above and:

This:


Evan Duffield states, it was merely "a hobby", which is directly contradicted by:

But in my case at age 51 (June), no retirement, no pension, no savings and health issue

What a pity that the defence of "honour" requires millionaire status these days.

Sign of the times I suppose  

BCX attacked coins for profit. I will attack them for honor.

Hey - just trying to help

b.t.w. you sound strangely familiar  

when I'm a millionaire...

You might find this more comforting than endlessly quoting yourself.

Just a thought  

But that is not the same as ripping off people's money. That is just a shitcoin, which is not the criteria here.

We don't know if those who claim to be Evan supporters are sockpuppets and/or those insiders who profited on the scheme.

The real victims are those who have sold for less than they paid at the expense of the insiders who sell to pocket Bitcoin and then get the DRK tokens back again for free via their control over masternodes. It is an endless supply of new fools who might actually be HODLing for the Evolutoin P&D, and their funds are being given to the insiders. They all hope there are some greater fools to sell the Evolution pump to. In short, there can't be a non-manipulated market in this current scam structure.