Why we should play on minor gambling platform?

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Quote from: retreat on May 14, 2023, 12:11:27 PM

Usually people choose to play on new gambling platforms because of the attractive promotions and rewards they offer to new players. These new gambling platforms know what users want to join their platform, and therefore they offer the best offers for their new users. But I once tried to use one of the new gambling platforms whose name I don't need to mention, they offer attractive promotions especially for slot games and I tried to make a deposit of around 30 USD. In several rounds, this game provides attractive rewards, but unfortunately my browser doesn't respond and I try to reload, and how unlucky I am that all the rewards are not there and my balance has been deducted. I've tried to contact their CS and until now it's been several months without getting an answer. So even though this new gambling platform offers attractive promotions, their reliability and safety are not guaranteed and you have to accept that risk.

Well, that's one thing with new casino, and this is not something that is peculiar to gambling casinos alone, it is majorly the same for all new online startups, but for the sake of the topic here, I will just focus on gambling casinos, the news casinos tend to provide better bonuses as you said, solely to attract new users, and their sports betting comes with better odds too, which do attract gamblers to want to bet there, but generally, the risk of using a new casino with no reputation is high, one can only use them at their own risk, and I think this is something we all should know already.

usually more agressive marketing promotions will go away if the casino is able to cross the chasm and really grow, reaching a certain number of critical mass
of course this is easier said than done

quite competitive landscape nowadays.

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Quote from: retreat on May 14, 2023, 12:11:27 PM

Usually people choose to play on new gambling platforms because of the attractive promotions and rewards they offer to new players. These new gambling platforms know what users want to join their platform, and therefore they offer the best offers for their new users. But I once tried to use one of the new gambling platforms whose name I don't need to mention, they offer attractive promotions especially for slot games and I tried to make a deposit of around 30 USD. In several rounds, this game provides attractive rewards, but unfortunately my browser doesn't respond and I try to reload, and how unlucky I am that all the rewards are not there and my balance has been deducted. I've tried to contact their CS and until now it's been several months without getting an answer. So even though this new gambling platform offers attractive promotions, their reliability and safety are not guaranteed and you have to accept that risk.

Well, that's one thing with new casino, and this is not something that is peculiar to gambling casinos alone, it is majorly the same for all new online startups, but for the sake of the topic here, I will just focus on gambling casinos, the news casinos tend to provide better bonuses as you said, solely to attract new users, and their sports betting comes with better odds too, which do attract gamblers to want to bet there, but generally, the risk of using a new casino with no reputation is high, one can only use them at their own risk, and I think this is something we all should know already.

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Quote from: wxa7115 on May 07, 2023, 02:37:10 AM

Quote from: Kakmakr on May 01, 2023, 08:37:54 AM

I do agree with you.... bigger sites are losing touch with the smaller gamblers, because they focus too much on the highrollers. It's unfortunate that smaller gamblers are being neglected, because several 100's of smaller gamblers ..make up 1 or 2 highrollers. Tongue

This is to be expected, a casino is a business and while it will try to satisfy all its customers if given the choice it will focus way more on the whales, since it is easier to satisfy a single customer than hundreds of them.

Still I would say that the experience I get on the casinos in which I pay is still very favorable, and while the bonuses are not out of this world when I compare them to what a whale can receive, this is still better than receiving no bonus at all.

I think the answer depends upon the frequency on how a person gambles within a given time-frame.

For example, if a person gambles intermittently, then it is recommended that they explore and try to gamble on minor gambling websites that offer relatively high bonuses compared to other gambling websites. On the other hand, if a person frequently gambles, then it is highly advisable that they build their account in a highly-reputable gambling website for their security and loyalty bonuses.

Personally, I still prefer to gamble on major gambling websites due to the security that they offer. Even if they require KYC, there is still that sense of security that one may feel when they gamble on their platform.

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Quote from: Gianluca95 on April 16, 2023, 05:21:46 AM

Hi there guys,

Since I've seen what happened to Coinplay, my question was: Why we should play with minor gambling platform, and not use only gambling platform like Stake, CloudBet, fortunejack ecc. which ensure us good games, 100%

Because of much appealing bonus structure compared to the top casino which obviously have an average bonus rewards since they already have the customers trust. It’s not bad idea to try new casino since top casino nowadays start from being a newbie casino too. Limiting ourselves to trusted brands and not trying to discover new casino will just kill the industry fro expansion and at the same time we are just limiting our choices. Coinplay issue has the warning since they started due to their connection to 1xbit. People just ignored the red flag because of the casino signature campaign.

Quote from: Gianluca95 on April 16, 2023, 05:21:46 AM

of safety in terms of withdrawal and provably fair (about games)? This question is also for the owners of gambling platform, maybe they can help to reply it.

Games of most casino is pretty much the same since it came from 3rd party provider. They just varies on original games but only few plays the original games which is already negligible in terms of safety.

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Usually people choose to play on new gambling platforms because of the attractive promotions and rewards they offer to new players. These new gambling platforms know what users want to join their platform, and therefore they offer the best offers for their new users. But I once tried to use one of the new gambling platforms whose name I don't need to mention, they offer attractive promotions especially for slot games and I tried to make a deposit of around 30 USD. In several rounds, this game provides attractive rewards, but unfortunately my browser doesn't respond and I try to reload, and how unlucky I am that all the rewards are not there and my balance has been deducted. I've tried to contact their CS and until now it's been several months without getting an answer. So even though this new gambling platform offers attractive promotions, their reliability and safety are not guaranteed and you have to accept that risk.

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Quote from: Razmirraz on May 09, 2023, 11:37:13 AM

Why choose a small platform when you are no stranger to large platforms such as Stake, CloudBet, fortunejack ecc. Small platforms are more prone to scams that's why I don't like being a part of them.
The security of large platforms is more guaranteed than small platforms, especially the platforms that you have mentioned above which already have a good reputation on forums and have earned the trust of forum users.

Dont you realize that all the current big platforms were small platforms as well in their early stage?
There is no platform that come into the industry directly as a big platform because every platform mostly come from zero unless the platform has a privilege like Stake which is a owned/managed by older big platform Primedice.
As long as you know how to look deeper on the new platforms, to check everything in the new platform and you do not find any suspicious thing then you are good to go and try.
But for sure, do not spend too much money while trying a new platform.

You are correct, but at the same time some industries can evolve at a terrifying pace and the gambling industry is one of them, not long ago new casinos could still make it big even if at the time they were not extraordinary by simply providing decent games and treat their customers as they deserve.

However the casinos which currently lead the market have become so popular and so dominant that new casinos are having problems gaining clients, as many gamblers question themselves about why they would need to try a new casino when the service they receive is so good already? And not many new casinos can give a satisfactory answer to that question, and eventually find themselves closing their doors after a short time on the market.

this is normal on blue ocean markets, the ones that are new, fresh and unexplored
then high profit margins attract more competitors, diminishing returns, competition usually makes profit margins smaller, bad for the owners of biz, good for the costumers.

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Quote from: panjul07 on May 12, 2023, 08:50:41 AM

Quote from: Razmirraz on May 09, 2023, 11:37:13 AM

Why choose a small platform when you are no stranger to large platforms such as Stake, CloudBet, fortunejack ecc. Small platforms are more prone to scams that's why I don't like being a part of them.
The security of large platforms is more guaranteed than small platforms, especially the platforms that you have mentioned above which already have a good reputation on forums and have earned the trust of forum users.

Dont you realize that all the current big platforms were small platforms as well in their early stage?
There is no platform that come into the industry directly as a big platform because every platform mostly come from zero unless the platform has a privilege like Stake which is a owned/managed by older big platform Primedice.
As long as you know how to look deeper on the new platforms, to check everything in the new platform and you do not find any suspicious thing then you are good to go and try.
But for sure, do not spend too much money while trying a new platform.

You are correct, but at the same time some industries can evolve at a terrifying pace and the gambling industry is one of them, not long ago new casinos could still make it big even if at the time they were not extraordinary by simply providing decent games and treat their customers as they deserve.

However the casinos which currently lead the market have become so popular and so dominant that new casinos are having problems gaining clients, as many gamblers question themselves about why they would need to try a new casino when the service they receive is so good already? And not many new casinos can give a satisfactory answer to that question, and eventually find themselves closing their doors after a short time on the market.

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Quote from: Crypt0Gore on May 07, 2023, 05:13:51 AM

A popular gambling platform is a lot safer than minor gambling platforms, popular gambling platforms have build their strong foundation and reputation, you will be comfortable gambling on such platform and you will be able to see and read a lot about what other gamblers are facing playing on such gambling platforms.

Minor gambling platforms have a long way to go, they are less reliable and you won't know which one will operate for long and which one will close down any time, I find it hard to trust minor and new gambling platforms because of these.

There is a possibility of getting good gambling results on minor gambling platforms because they are still looking for customers and they can make winning a bit easier for gamblers, the thing is you can't beat them at their own games, but if you are losing money on some gambling platforms your can try your luck on minor ones.

Not all popular gambling platforms are legit but there are also who got known because of the number of complaints they get. If there are legit gambling platforms, not all of them are suited for all gamblers because each of us has their own taste. Even though minor gambling platform may seem to lack in reputation, some gamblers have found their contentment on them.

We don't know the fate of minor gambling platforms but if they are really good, they can easily join the casinos that are on the top. We only need to monitor them so that we can get out as soon as possible if we feel that they are getting shadier because it could lead to closure of their site later on.

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Quote from: Razmirraz on May 09, 2023, 11:37:13 AM

Why choose a small platform when you are no stranger to large platforms such as Stake, CloudBet, fortunejack ecc. Small platforms are more prone to scams that's why I don't like being a part of them.
The security of large platforms is more guaranteed than small platforms, especially the platforms that you have mentioned above which already have a good reputation on forums and have earned the trust of forum users.

Dont you realize that all the current big platforms were small platforms as well in their early stage?
There is no platform that come into the industry directly as a big platform because every platform mostly come from zero unless the platform has a privilege like Stake which is a owned/managed by older big platform Primedice.
As long as you know how to look deeper on the new platforms, to check everything in the new platform and you do not find any suspicious thing then you are good to go and try.
But for sure, do not spend too much money while trying a new platform.

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In general terms,when we Talk about smaller platforms,some interpret it as something that can be easier to win, and not in a casino that is very large Because the casinos that are very large and have a good reputation see them as a casino that is difficult to win. In general,the Whales are the ones that have the option of being able to Access there, but as I have Said on several Occasions, at stake.com there are all kinds of players, whales, Normal, Medium low, and well, the truth is something that Always This casino will be Valued for you,everyone has the same Opportunities and they show it.

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Quote from: Razmirraz on May 09, 2023, 11:37:13 AM

Why choose a small platform when you are no stranger to large platforms such as Stake, CloudBet, fortunejack ecc. Small platforms are more prone to scams that's why I don't like being a part of them.
The security of large platforms is more guaranteed than small platforms, especially the platforms that you have mentioned above which already have a good reputation on forums and have earned the trust of forum users.

When gambling with the aim of getting more pleasure and also to become one of the loyal casino customers it is indeed better to choose a big casino because it already has a good reputation and also high enough trust so it is impossible for us to experience problems such as fraud which usually occur in in a small casino.
But if you just want some bonuses that are easy to get and to get experience, then there's nothing wrong with trying to play in a small casino as long as we can choose a small casino that is trusted enough and also uses smaller money so that if one day a problem occurs we don't get big loss.

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Quote from: Gianluca95 on April 16, 2023, 05:21:46 AM

Hi there guys,

Since I've seen what happened to Coinplay, my question was: Why we should play with minor gambling platform, and not use only gambling platform like Stake, CloudBet, fortunejack ecc. which ensure us good games, 100%

of safety in terms of withdrawal and provably fair (about games)? This question is also for the owners of gambling platform, maybe they can help to reply it.

Why choose a small platform when you are no stranger to large platforms such as Stake, CloudBet, fortunejack ecc. Small platforms are more prone to scams that's why I don't like being a part of them.
The security of large platforms is more guaranteed than small platforms, especially the platforms that you have mentioned above which already have a good reputation on forums and have earned the trust of forum users.

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Quote from: wiss19 on May 03, 2023, 10:38:11 AM

Quote from: Lucasgabd on May 02, 2023, 12:16:20 PM

in my opinion the risk of giving your identity to a new casino or to a stabilished one is not so different
in both cases you should consider it lost in a way that you possibly won't be able to know if your documents were deleted after verification or not
both risk

though there aren't many casinos without KYC nowadays, right?

It's different, giving your identity documents and personal information to a new casino is not the same as giving them to an established and trusted casino platform since there is basically no reputation nor trust for the new platform and your documents can be used in a bad way where an established platform is more likely to keep them safe.

In very rare cases, a trusted and reputable casino might misuse their collected users' information and break the trust of the community but that doesn't happen all the time since it will compromise their reputation and that isn't good for their business.

you have no way to verify if your documents leaked neither to know if company that verified your identity deleted your information afterwards
in ANY website
in this case I mean it's not so different

overall risk of having problems is probably falling from 50% to 42% going from estabilished casinos to new one
not 50% to 10%

talking only about kyc here of course
there are other risks on new casinos that one should keep in mind

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A popular gambling platform is a lot safer than minor gambling platforms, popular gambling platforms have build their strong foundation and reputation, you will be comfortable gambling on such platform and you will be able to see and read a lot about what other gamblers are facing playing on such gambling platforms.

Minor gambling platforms have a long way to go, they are less reliable and you won't know which one will operate for long and which one will close down any time, I find it hard to trust minor and new gambling platforms because of these.

There is a possibility of getting good gambling results on minor gambling platforms because they are still looking for customers and they can make winning a bit easier for gamblers, the thing is you can't beat them at their own games, but if you are losing money on some gambling platforms your can try your luck on minor ones.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on May 01, 2023, 08:37:54 AM

I do agree with you.... bigger sites are losing touch with the smaller gamblers, because they focus too much on the highrollers. It's unfortunate that smaller gamblers are being neglected, because several 100's of smaller gamblers ..make up 1 or 2 highrollers. Tongue

This is to be expected, a casino is a business and while it will try to satisfy all its customers if given the choice it will focus way more on the whales, since it is easier to satisfy a single customer than hundreds of them.

Still I would say that the experience I get on the casinos in which I pay is still very favorable, and while the bonuses are not out of this world when I compare them to what a whale can receive, this is still better than receiving no bonus at all.

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Quote from: wiss19 on May 03, 2023, 10:38:11 AM

Quote from: Lucasgabd on May 02, 2023, 12:16:20 PM

in my opinion the risk of giving your identity to a new casino or to a stabilished one is not so different
in both cases you should consider it lost in a way that you possibly won't be able to know if your documents were deleted after verification or not
both risk

though there aren't many casinos without KYC nowadays, right?

It's different, giving your identity documents and personal information to a new casino is not the same as giving them to an established and trusted casino platform since there is basically no reputation nor trust for the new platform and your documents can be used in a bad way where an established platform is more likely to keep them safe.

In very rare cases, a trusted and reputable casino might misuse their collected users' information and break the trust of the community but that doesn't happen all the time since it will compromise their reputation and that isn't good for their business.

When it comes to your personal data and KYC documents, the established and new casinos are not so different. They both can sell your data to a 3rd party without our knowledge of course. You may doubt that big companies will not do that but even Google is using our data for the advertising network they have.

You already have a leak data you have, don't add the data you send to the tiny new casino. Why we shouldn't play on a minor platform is to secure your funds.

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on May 02, 2023, 12:16:20 PM

in my opinion the risk of giving your identity to a new casino or to a stabilished one is not so different
in both cases you should consider it lost in a way that you possibly won't be able to know if your documents were deleted after verification or not
both risk

though there aren't many casinos without KYC nowadays, right?

It's different, giving your identity documents and personal information to a new casino is not the same as giving them to an established and trusted casino platform since there is basically no reputation nor trust for the new platform and your documents can be used in a bad way where an established platform is more likely to keep them safe.

In very rare cases, a trusted and reputable casino might misuse their collected users' information and break the trust of the community but that doesn't happen all the time since it will compromise their reputation and that isn't good for their business.

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Quote from: panjul07 on April 26, 2023, 12:24:35 PM

Quote from: piebeyb on April 26, 2023, 03:36:55 AM

small casinos or new casinos are very unsafe to play big money so if you want to test it, be sure to complete KYC or use small money then play if you are ready to make a withdrawal and if the process is fast then use big money, because to test it you have to use small money to avoid casino scam.

I have no idea how KYC will help you in testing a new casino especially if we are playing with small amount of money.
Dont you think it is risky to give your identity for a new casino?
I would prefer to test new casino with small amount and without KYC than completing KYC just for testing purpose.
One more thing, be careful to increase your stake/bankroll although you managed to withdraw small amount on your testing purpose.
Scam casino will let you to withdraw small amount in order to attract you so you start a new session with bigger money then the scam casino will start their bad actions.

in my opinion the risk of giving your identity to a new casino or to a stabilished one is not so different
in both cases you should consider it lost in a way that you possibly won't be able to know if your documents were deleted after verification or not
both risk

though there aren't many casinos without KYC nowadays, right?

I have never ever consider myself on sending out some documents or verifications on any gambling platform but for exchangers then i would really be willing on doing so since it is really something that main thing i've

been dealing with and something worth on giving out your information which its of course you should really be just accepting that there's always a chance for these information to leak out.Its not something that very new because even into those traditioned transactions we do on physical world on which informations been given which it turns to be that casual. This is why it wouldnt really be that so shocking
or something new on the time that you would be sending out some documents here on online space.

New platforms are considered out to be something that has potential.If you are that someone who do loves on testing out new ones then its your call but asking out directly with some KYC?
Then it would really be a huge turn off for most people on here which it would really be ended up on getting ignored.

I'd say it's probably better to avoid KYC in all situations possible, specially in new platforms
though as stated before in other topics kyc is nonsense, lots of articles shows up that they add a burden (time and money) to business and in the end of the day only help to find bad actors in a minor % of situations

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Quote from: Lucasgabd on May 02, 2023, 12:16:20 PM

Quote from: panjul07 on April 26, 2023, 12:24:35 PM

Quote from: piebeyb on April 26, 2023, 03:36:55 AM

small casinos or new casinos are very unsafe to play big money so if you want to test it, be sure to complete KYC or use small money then play if you are ready to make a withdrawal and if the process is fast then use big money, because to test it you have to use small money to avoid casino scam.

I have no idea how KYC will help you in testing a new casino especially if we are playing with small amount of money.
Dont you think it is risky to give your identity for a new casino?
I would prefer to test new casino with small amount and without KYC than completing KYC just for testing purpose.
One more thing, be careful to increase your stake/bankroll although you managed to withdraw small amount on your testing purpose.
Scam casino will let you to withdraw small amount in order to attract you so you start a new session with bigger money then the scam casino will start their bad actions.

in my opinion the risk of giving your identity to a new casino or to a stabilished one is not so different
in both cases you should consider it lost in a way that you possibly won't be able to know if your documents were deleted after verification or not
both risk

though there aren't many casinos without KYC nowadays, right?

I have never ever consider myself on sending out some documents or verifications on any gambling platform but for exchangers then i would really be willing on doing so since it is really something that main thing i've

been dealing with and something worth on giving out your information which its of course you should really be just accepting that there's always a chance for these information to leak out.Its not something that very new because even into those traditioned transactions we do on physical world on which informations been given which it turns to be that casual. This is why it wouldnt really be that so shocking
or something new on the time that you would be sending out some documents here on online space.

New platforms are considered out to be something that has potential.If you are that someone who do loves on testing out new ones then its your call but asking out directly with some KYC?
Then it would really be a huge turn off for most people on here which it would really be ended up on getting ignored.

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Most often, to level the playing field and give these small-time gambling platforms a fighting chance against the giants in this industry, they offer up hefty bonuses in exchange for deposit, play, or both. You wouldn't really see that type of thing that almost edges towards too-good-to-be-true land when it comes to bonuses and prizes. This is one of the greatest selling points as to why people play in these types of casinos. They also often offer loyalty programs that people who like to stick with one casino enjoy, which some high-rated casinos don't really offer nowadays. Curiosity is also a great reason why people play in these casinos. They find something that piques their interest, they play in it, and from their initial experience comes a conclusion of whether they wanted to stay with that casino or not.

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