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legendary
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However if someone does choose to use a smaller lesser known casino, then as long as you are able to withdraw your money out quickly, it's probably not as big of a deal.  That's why withdraw times/speeds are so important to me.
Yes, I agree with you on this very statement of yours as one of the reasons why people use smaller advertised casinos here on the forum. But some other reasons include as fellows;
1. Some people use smaller casino here on the forum, simply because they believe that in as much as a casino is running a signature campaign here on the forum by a reputable manager that such casino is legit and safe and as such they could use and not be afraid of having their funds scammed.
2. Some people use smaller casino here on the forum, simply because of signature campaign (i.e since they are getting paid from a casino's signature campaign, they end up patronizing and gambling on that casino for the main time of partaking in it's signature campaign).


True, but another big and perhaps the biggest reason that makes people run immediately to create accounts in new casinos is because in new casinos they give sign-up bonuses and also because the casino is very new and it is easier for the person to create an account and take his referral link and start publicizing his referral link to get many referrals early, with these two things I said "registration bonus and the possibility of getting many referrals" new casinos become the strong dish of many people, but the problem always comes after people have created accounts and have deposited and played, when it comes to withdrawals and that the big noise starts, because not every casino is here to stay for the long term, some are total scams and others are partial scams that make selective payments and use TOS to hold people's funds and thus stay with their scam site for a long time

what would be an amount of time that you think it's too long and unacceptable? more than 2 or 3 days for me would be a deal breaker.

on this question, the logic in my opinion should be simple: if people's deposit arrives fast in people's account then why would people's withdrawal arrive late in people's wallet? people, but then I ask: when a person makes a bet and the bet wins and the amount that he bet is reflected in the balance of that person's account, then it means that everything is fine, the casino agreed that that amount that is in the balance of the account of the person is fine, so why at the time of withdrawal comes with arguments from many accounts and KYC? why do they let people make deposits and then ask for KYC? this is a very shady behavior, in my opinion the withdrawal should be instant
hero member
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I have no idea how KYC will help you in testing a new casino especially if we are playing with small amount of money.
Dont you think it is risky to give your identity for a new casino?
I would prefer to test new casino with small amount and without KYC than completing KYC just for testing purpose.
One more thing, be careful to increase your stake/bankroll although you managed to withdraw small amount on your testing purpose.
Scam casino will let you to withdraw small amount in order to attract you so you start a new session with bigger money then the scam casino will start their bad actions.
Casinos like that can be pretty dangerous they pay the smaller amounts and refuse to pay when the withdrawal is high, how the hell would a person know if the casino will turn out to be a scam if they have already been paid once even if the money was not that big? That is the reason why it's better to just stick to old and trusted casinos.

Also as you said, it is not really a good thing to provide KYC and personal information to a brand-new casino with no trust and reputation among the gambling community since it can be a threat to one's privacy.
This is why some people do really ask out for some bankroll sign message if the site does have that ample balance for them to pay out those huge winnings or not but mostly
they would really be setting out some max bet amount for them to avoid on getting bankcrupt on the time that someone do hit up some big wins which is understandable. If they have just forgotten
this one then for sure they would really be wrekt up by someone who would be hitting up some huge win and make withdrawal and this is where withdrawal problem would begin. This is why
i do really make out some feedback read up first before making any deposit into new sites. Just like the rest been saying that being new isnt automatically means it is a scam,
it is really just that it is hard to get some users specially you dont still have the reputation and trust that had been mold up which it would really be normal that hesitance and doubts is always there.
sr. member
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I have no idea how KYC will help you in testing a new casino especially if we are playing with small amount of money.
Dont you think it is risky to give your identity for a new casino?
I would prefer to test new casino with small amount and without KYC than completing KYC just for testing purpose.
One more thing, be careful to increase your stake/bankroll although you managed to withdraw small amount on your testing purpose.
Scam casino will let you to withdraw small amount in order to attract you so you start a new session with bigger money then the scam casino will start their bad actions.
Casinos like that can be pretty dangerous they pay the smaller amounts and refuse to pay when the withdrawal is high, how the hell would a person know if the casino will turn out to be a scam if they have already been paid once even if the money was not that big? That is the reason why it's better to just stick to old and trusted casinos.

Also as you said, it is not really a good thing to provide KYC and personal information to a brand-new casino with no trust and reputation among the gambling community since it can be a threat to one's privacy.
hero member
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However if someone does choose to use a smaller lesser known casino, then as long as you are able to withdraw your money out quickly, it's probably not as big of a deal.  That's why withdraw times/speeds are so important to me.
Yes, I agree with you on this very statement of yours as one of the reasons why people use smaller advertised casinos here on the forum. But some other reasons include as fellows;
1. Some people use smaller casino here on the forum, simply because they believe that in as much as a casino is running a signature campaign here on the forum by a reputable manager that such casino is legit and safe and as such they could use and not be afraid of having their funds scammed.
2. Some people use smaller casino here on the forum, simply because of signature campaign (i.e since they are getting paid from a casino's signature campaign, they end up patronizing and gambling on that casino for the main time of partaking in it's signature campaign).
I don't know for sure, but these points of yours shouldn't be any reason for someone here in the forum to reply or use these casinos because as you being employed by these campaign managers, it is clearly that stated the manager only provide the advertising services for these companies and any other personal business with these companies that can lead to lost of funds is clearly not the doing of the campaign manager as they too cant say for sure how these casino are trust Worthy enough for any forum members to use. So I think you trying out any of these new casino is at your own risk so you should be aware of what you are getting yourself into.
Arent these things supposed not to be mandatory? If you are a signature participant then it would really not that right if they would be mandating you to play with your weekly pays on sigcamps.It isnt really just
that something a right thing for them to asked out because  it is really just not right at all.I havent seen any companies though to have that kind of terms in regarding into their members. Yes, you could really
be able to recieve up your pay given into your gambling site account but doesnt mean that you would be needing to spend it, it is really that totally on your choice whether you would really be
playing with those balance or not.

As long you arent that been forced on then there's nothing wrong with this. Playing on small sites or new ones are really just depending on a certain user. People do usually ending up on playing
on these places is on because out of some recommendations, curiosity and interest specially that new sites or platforms doesnt always mean that theyre scam completely.
When we do see some interesting stuff then this is where we do usually stick on.
sr. member
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However if someone does choose to use a smaller lesser known casino, then as long as you are able to withdraw your money out quickly, it's probably not as big of a deal.  That's why withdraw times/speeds are so important to me.
Yes, I agree with you on this very statement of yours as one of the reasons why people use smaller advertised casinos here on the forum. But some other reasons include as fellows;
1. Some people use smaller casino here on the forum, simply because they believe that in as much as a casino is running a signature campaign here on the forum by a reputable manager that such casino is legit and safe and as such they could use and not be afraid of having their funds scammed.
2. Some people use smaller casino here on the forum, simply because of signature campaign (i.e since they are getting paid from a casino's signature campaign, they end up patronizing and gambling on that casino for the main time of partaking in it's signature campaign).
I don't know for sure, but these points of yours shouldn't be any reason for someone here in the forum to reply or use these casinos because as you being employed by these campaign managers, it is clearly that stated the manager only provide the advertising services for these companies and any other personal business with these companies that can lead to lost of funds is clearly not the doing of the campaign manager as they too cant say for sure how these casino are trust Worthy enough for any forum members to use. So I think you trying out any of these new casino is at your own risk so you should be aware of what you are getting yourself into.
hero member
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However if someone does choose to use a smaller lesser known casino, then as long as you are able to withdraw your money out quickly, it's probably not as big of a deal.  That's why withdraw times/speeds are so important to me.
Yes, I agree with you on this very statement of yours as one of the reasons why people use smaller advertised casinos here on the forum. But some other reasons include as fellows;
1. Some people use smaller casino here on the forum, simply because they believe that in as much as a casino is running a signature campaign here on the forum by a reputable manager that such casino is legit and safe and as such they could use and not be afraid of having their funds scammed.
2. Some people use smaller casino here on the forum, simply because of signature campaign (i.e since they are getting paid from a casino's signature campaign, they end up patronizing and gambling on that casino for the main time of partaking in it's signature campaign).
legendary
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small casinos or new casinos are very unsafe to play big money so if you want to test it, be sure to complete KYC or use small money then play if you are ready to make a withdrawal and if the process is fast then use big money, because to test it you have to use small money to avoid casino scam.

I have no idea how KYC will help you in testing a new casino especially if we are playing with small amount of money.
Dont you think it is risky to give your identity for a new casino?
I would prefer to test new casino with small amount and without KYC than completing KYC just for testing purpose.
One more thing, be careful to increase your stake/bankroll although you managed to withdraw small amount on your testing purpose.
Scam casino will let you to withdraw small amount in order to attract you so you start a new session with bigger money then the scam casino will start their bad actions.
hero member
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Personally I'm only using platforms that have been around for some time, and of course those that have a very good reputation or are very well known in mainstream.  However if someone does choose to use a smaller lesser known casino, then as long as you are able to withdraw your money out quickly, it's probably not as big of a deal.  That's why withdraw times/speeds are so important to me.
Everyone must look for a more reliable and safe platform in gambling betting, usually a platform that has been operating for a long time and has a reputation, far more trustworthy than the new small gambling platform. I am not close to the coinplay mentioned by the OP because I have never used it, but from CoinPlay's experience we can take lessons about the accuracy of more trusted gambling use.

But for me to trust the new platform and a small casino is far more risky because the reputation is not so tested in terms of the speed of withdrawal of money, but returning to everyone and if they are comfortable using it may not be a problem, when the small and new platforms can be trusted in Faster withdrawal of money.
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In gambling, we cannot predict the exact outcome of aby gambling platform since the way everyone of them manage thier own is different from others, this makes it more accurate for a gambler to always look in for those behind every gambling platform they may wanted to tryout, this is to avoid falling into the habds of those you can not trace or trust their system and what they offers, that's why most of the gambling sites always create a referral system whereby their gamblers can bring in new members to participate because they are reliable enough.

But in doing a business, anything can still come up in situations whereby a gambling platform couldn't meet up to expectations to help it maintain the running of the platform a d this kind of challenge lead to their going bankrupt or when got attacked when they were unable to maintain a good security measures on their platform, that's why everything must be concluded under taking risk in gambling.
sr. member
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Personally I'm only using platforms that have been around for some time, and of course those that have a very good reputation or are very well known in mainstream.  However if someone does choose to use a smaller lesser known casino, then as long as you are able to withdraw your money out quickly, it's probably not as big of a deal.  That's why withdraw times/speeds are so important to me.
Almost all old casinos have fast withdrawals on average but not for new casinos because it might complicate withdrawals by asking for KYC or complicated documents or fulfilling wagering requirements if you can't fulfill that you won't be able to withdraw your money even your account will be banned and funds frozen, you are right to play in old casinos because apart from being guaranteed safe they are also much more convenient.

small casinos or new casinos are very unsafe to play big money so if you want to test it, be sure to complete KYC or use small money then play if you are ready to make a withdrawal and if the process is fast then use big money, because to test it you have to use small money to avoid casino scam.

Reputable casinos really have the hearts of the players because of course, the capability of the casino is already proven for the whole duration of their operation. The functionality and the features of these casinos stand out which is the reason why they have so many patronage and is still continuously operating despite new rising competitions. Most people are after the reviews and feedbacks. If there will be lesser to none who will vouch for a website, they will think twice on depositing and playing in it.

But of course, discovering another great casino won't happen if people are going to choose the same casino all over again. It takes risk to try new things and explore something unfamiliar to you.
legendary
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Personally I'm only using platforms that have been around for some time, and of course those that have a very good reputation or are very well known in mainstream.  However if someone does choose to use a smaller lesser known casino, then as long as you are able to withdraw your money out quickly, it's probably not as big of a deal.  That's why withdraw times/speeds are so important to me.

that is a good way to protect yourself, sticking to the bigger and most reputable casinos like duelbits, roobet, so forth and so on
withdraw times are a good metric to keep an eye on
what would be an amount of time that you think it's too long and unacceptable? more than 2 or 3 days for me would be a deal breaker.
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Personally I'm only using platforms that have been around for some time, and of course those that have a very good reputation or are very well known in mainstream.  However if someone does choose to use a smaller lesser known casino, then as long as you are able to withdraw your money out quickly, it's probably not as big of a deal.  That's why withdraw times/speeds are so important to me.
Almost all old casinos have fast withdrawals on average but not for new casinos because it might complicate withdrawals by asking for KYC or complicated documents or fulfilling wagering requirements if you can't fulfill that you won't be able to withdraw your money even your account will be banned and funds frozen, you are right to play in old casinos because apart from being guaranteed safe they are also much more convenient.

small casinos or new casinos are very unsafe to play big money so if you want to test it, be sure to complete KYC or use small money then play if you are ready to make a withdrawal and if the process is fast then use big money, because to test it you have to use small money to avoid casino scam.
legendary
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Those dishonest tactics are probably the number one reason why many gamblers prefer to stick to the casinos they already know, some casinos employ selective scamming tactics and they use their TOS to try to make their actions to seem legitimate, and if the casino owners are smart they can get away with this for a very long time.

So people prefer to not take the risk as they know that if they were to fall victim of such tactic, there will be no chance at all to recover their money.
IMO the same can happen in bigger casinos, I know it's unlikely but i've experienced it once and it's frustrating when your winnings are simply taken away and you can't do anything aside from shrugging it off because you can't win against their rules.

That's why withdraw times/speeds are so important to me.
For me, it's the same plus the minimum withdrawal amounts because some casinos would have little to no deposit limits but their minimums withdrawal is so high like it's for high rollers.
legendary
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Personally I'm only using platforms that have been around for some time, and of course those that have a very good reputation or are very well known in mainstream.  However if someone does choose to use a smaller lesser known casino, then as long as you are able to withdraw your money out quickly, it's probably not as big of a deal.  That's why withdraw times/speeds are so important to me.
legendary
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Hi there guys,

Since I've seen what happened to Coinplay, my question was: Why we should play with minor gambling platform, and not use only gambling platform like Stake, CloudBet, fortunejack ecc. which ensure us good games, 100%

of safety in terms of withdrawal and provably fair (about games)? This question is also for the owners of gambling platform, maybe they can help to reply it.
If everyone plays on minor casinos, then who will play on the other ones? Any one that favoured you, you have to play there because we not there to place bet for fun but to win. When we come to fun we play it as a fun way but for now it is to win. So favourism is one of the tools to locate a casino to play. There are some things which the minor casinos do can't be found in those Casinos you mentioned above.
For the safety of a casino is one of the priority of the company but some casinos are careless on their security. If a casino want to know the details of a customer they have to ask the KYC at the beginning and not at the end when the person has won a big amount of money. That looks suspicious.

That's true, it's like a robin hood situation where you collect gamblers from mentioned trusted gambling platform to move from minor, it will just result the other platform to lose it's customers. But if its worth the hype and its game plus the security of your funds then it could be consider. There's a lot of minor gambling platform that are underrated but of course as users would stick to the most trusted one. It's important to have fun but losing your money from fraud and scam its much worse than losing it to gambling.

I totally get the concern about minor gambling platforms, especially after the whole Coinplay debacle. So trying out the underdog platforms may be a good option.

Who knows, maybe one of these minor casinos have something unique and fun to offer that we haven't seen before.

As for security, that's obviously a top priority, but some big casinos can be careless too. Asking KYC only after you've won big is sketchy as hell if you ask me.

Having fun is important, but let's also be smart and not fall for any scams. Stay safe and good luck out there!
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Hi there guys,

Since I've seen what happened to Coinplay, my question was: Why we should play with minor gambling platform, and not use only gambling platform like Stake, CloudBet, fortunejack ecc. which ensure us good games, 100%

of safety in terms of withdrawal and provably fair (about games)? This question is also for the owners of gambling platform, maybe they can help to reply it.

Well if someone is willing to take the risk then play on second tier gambling platform. The problem is that those second tier might look legit and not scammy, but we still don't know if they are going to scam us or not.

Perhaps they will lay a trap on us, at the beginning with no KYC and you can withdraw instantly, but when you are winning big, then maybe they will change their tactics along the way. So it's really hard to trust them as compare to those top casino's that we have right now and that's where we play mostly because you know that you can withdraw fast without any questions and issues.
Those dishonest tactics are probably the number one reason why many gamblers prefer to stick to the casinos they already know, some casinos employ selective scamming tactics and they use their TOS to try to make their actions to seem legitimate, and if the casino owners are smart they can get away with this for a very long time.

So people prefer to not take the risk as they know that if they were to fall victim of such tactic, there will be no chance at all to recover their money.
hero member
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Mist times I'm not really bothered about how long a casino has spent in the industry but what truly matters to me as how well their reputation has been built for the time they've spent so far and for the record, I enjoy trying new things especially new casinos so as to claim their bonuses and some exciting bonuses and promotions they have to offer.
On the other hand, I think a more reputable casino can easily get away with some shitty crimes because they already got a new and reputations and it might be very difficult for people to believe you when you start laying some accusations against them especially those ones that don't really seem believe and that's one reason I like trying new stuffs on new casino bit I'm all we do as gamblers, make sure you don't gamble with what you can't afford to lose.
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I don't know about people, but if I wanted to play gambling, I would choose a big casino that I have owned for a long time. Playing on a minor gambling platform is risky because some things may differ from a big casino, where I think the service will also be different. Perhaps, because we already know everything is because of reputation and if a casino can get a good reputation, many people will choose it. Meanwhile, small casinos must continue to strive to be able to earn their reputation in various ways.
If you want to gamble for fun and get some benefits, it's better to choose a big and trusted casino because it is more comfortable and safe to use.
On average, small casinos are used only for certain purposes, friends, such as only to do trials or get bonuses that are held so that gamblers only temporarily use small casinos.
And playing gambling in a big casino can provide security and calm for us and we don't have to worry if we withdraw the winning money. And if we want to get a bonus from a big casino, it won't be a problem for us because the big casino has distributed its fair share for each member. But people can still play gambling in small casinos but don't use much money to avoid any possible risks.

Well, inviting the big and small casino owners here may answer your curiosity. But I don't know if they will come and answer it.
It seems like big or small casino owners will never come to these forums even if they have been invited because they have representatives and will only rely on representatives who are in the forum to solve any problems or provide responses to all questions that arise.
Yes, maybe they are busy with the casino so they don't have time to visit here. But if they send representatives to this casino to interact with the members here, it will be better because they can find out how popular their casino is and get our input and suggestions.

I don't think that it has anything to do with what casino owners have to say about this topic since it's just about the thoughts of gamblers and not business owners. A business owner even if he is owning a small business will probably never say any negative things about their business, and they will always represent it as the best out there.

But only a customer who had used their services or products can tell the actual truth and give an honest review about their business. So it's only the choice of gamblers based on their experiences and what kind of casinos they prefer, new or old.
Every business owner would not say negative things about his business or his casino. But only customers know how the service is at each casino so that customers will choose where they will play gambling. And if these customers are people from these forums, they will give honest reviews about the casino because they want to help people find the best casino for those people.
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I actually for something like this it doesn't really matter whether it's a big or small gamble but of course there are a number of things to pay attention to and the most basic is reputation. As long as they have a good reputation I don't have a problem with it but if it doesn't make me comfortable with the reputation they have I certainly won't look at things like this.

I agree with this.
I really don't care if its a small or big casino, they main question is "can it be trusted?"
If a casino can be trusted and there are no bad reports about that casino, I don't mind gambling with them.
Personally, I'm not someone that loves to explore different casinos, I just like to stick to what I know, that way I can avoid a lot of things.
But no matter how I get used to a particular casino, the moment I start seeing or hearing negative feedbacks from other playing, I start getting skeptical and I might just stop playing on that site. 
This is how I feel, I don't really like to bother looking for something new as long as the casino that I always open can still satisfy my heart and of course this can also minimize the risk of fraud and being constrained in a bad reputation for myself.
Even though it's like that, I also don't really matter if in the end I try one of the new ones or another small or big casino but still like the view above, can be trusted or not because if it is in the end it's just a waste of time with reputation that is questionable I prefer to be at the starting point where I am with a casino that I have previously trusted.
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It's not that we "should", but we can always give them a try if we have confirmed that they aren't really scammers that will just be gone once they have received our money. That's the thing with small platforms, it's a hit or miss, and if it's a hit, they usually don't have that much patrons to keep their business afloat. Even if these platforms offer unique experiences and other quirks that aren't present in huge platforms, at the end of the day those huge platforms will still get the larger share of the pie because they give a lot more value to people's money through promotions and a lot of bonuses.
The vouch of the users who tried the smaller platform can be good. Those minor platforms however will need to have funds for the marketing for anyone to see thier ads that somehow guarantee the risk takers to gamble in minor casinos. Sometimes they are going to try a signature campaign here in the forum for 2 weeks only. Funds are really a problem for small casinos and this is enough for suspecting gamblers to stay away.
As long as the vouch came from high rank trusted members of this forum, why not? I can expect that the site isn't just a shill or a scam but I will also get a good experience there, the same as on what I read. It's normal for a gambling site to have funds on them because how can they be able to pay the winners? There will be players who get lucky on their early tries, so they must not be confident of running the casino with no or less funds on them.

A portion of the funds can be use on promoting the site here and outside the forum to let the people know that they exist. Overall, we must not expect big or think that small casino has a very large funds. If we want to be sure that we are going to be paid when we win big, we better play on big casinos instead.
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