Topic: Why would someone create topic that deserves merit but won't be merited? (Read 270 times)
April 11, 2022, 04:49:56 PM
You writing a long post those not make a quality post because I don't know if the length of a post is what makes you think that the post is quality, there are lot's of long post which after reading you will endup not gaining anything, why some short post always carry lot's of informations and always educative. Giving merit is a choice if you think a post really worth it them you give and if the post is not useful to you, you might decide to leave the post without meriting it. So all what I have to say is not long post those not make post a quality post and also their is a thread which you can post any of your topic which you think it worth awarding merit to.
April 11, 2022, 01:44:04 PM
...and if you only think about merit, it will be more difficult for you to get them.
This is not a criticism, just an experience.
This is not a criticism, just an experience.
This is the truest statement in the beginners and help board today. I am a victim and also a witness of this. When I was a newbie, I'll create topics and go offline, when I return, I'll be anticipating a particular number of merit and if it didn't come, my day is ruined automatically.
But I was somewhat lucky my expectations were most times met. But immediately I took my mind off merits, I saw myself making original and uninfluenced posts, then more merits came. I didn't actually take my mind off merits because of advices I received, I did because I had enough as of then. So, it is unlikely for any lower member(s) to make a sincere post without being merit expectant. It is just somehow natural and attached to human insatiable nature.
April 11, 2022, 09:02:11 AM
Franctoshi, your thinking is too general and without concrete examples, so it is difficult to answer concretely.
Can you give specific examples of topics that deserve merits?
If so, list them in your post, I will personally review them and if they deserve merits, they will get it from me.
Personally, of course, I don't have time to browse the entire forum and read all the posts, but if I come across a post that contributes to the quality of the discussion, gives some new information or adds some new value, I will always reward such a post with merit.
Can you give specific examples of topics that deserve merits?
If so, list them in your post, I will personally review them and if they deserve merits, they will get it from me.
Personally, of course, I don't have time to browse the entire forum and read all the posts, but if I come across a post that contributes to the quality of the discussion, gives some new information or adds some new value, I will always reward such a post with merit.
April 11, 2022, 08:13:53 AM
It's simple, people give out merits when a post is beneficial to them and not for mere fun, so it could be that the main post is deserving of a merit to the same person who saw a comment worthy of merit, and then some one who see's the main post deserving may also at the not have merits to dish out.
April 11, 2022, 03:21:24 AM
Being in this forum for a sometime now I have discovered and observed that some people created quality topics here that deserves merit but they won't get merited, instead people that just did a little contribution, post or comment on that topic will end up getting merit.
Please I need someone to give me a vivid explanation to that, from old members who has been here for long.
Thanks
I guess I understand what you are talking about and which type of topics you're referring to. There are many so-called "guides" or "instructions" on this forum that were created for a good reason and because of kind intentions, but that didn't receive any merit due to the poor quality of content, and inaccurate or incomplete information. These poor-quality guides often come from inexperienced newbies who have no deep knowledge in the field they are trying to discuss and educate others; oftentimes the message they are trying to convey is not very clear. Naturally, when more experienced users comment on such guides, they more often than not receive more attention and more merit points for their posts because their thoughts and writings are more informative, well-structured, and clear than those of a topic starter. Please I need someone to give me a vivid explanation to that, from old members who has been here for long.
Thanks
April 11, 2022, 03:05:45 AM
If you're writing a post about a topic that you're interested in, without focusing on whether you'll get merit, that sincere perception will often earn you more merits than a post that contains dry answers. Be simple.
Exactly the same way I made that comment above which I felt was true, without thinking anyone would merit it but you did. It isn't even the OP, yet it got merited whereas the OP hasn't got a single merit. I think users should just concentrate on writing from their heart without pandering to where merits are or aren't. I know it's kind of discouraging when one writes without getting merited, especially if one still needs to rank up. It's a common feeling because everyone likes to be encouraged in whatever they do. Merit is a type of encouragement in this forum. We know all that. However, users should just write from their heart. Posts from the heart are what I consider constructive posts, not necessarily that they've to be spiced with links and all what not. 
April 11, 2022, 02:41:33 AM
If you're writing a post about a topic that you're interested in, without focusing on whether you'll get merit, that sincere perception will often earn you more merits than a post that contains dry answers. Be simple. And it is better not to take high standards, since you understand that if you do not have enough knowledge for a topic or an answer to a topic, everything you come up with will speak of illiteracy.
I think your topic tells us about your unrecognized posts? But this is only your opinion, and if you only think about merit, it will be more difficult for you to get them.
This is not a criticism, just an experience.
I think your topic tells us about your unrecognized posts? But this is only your opinion, and if you only think about merit, it will be more difficult for you to get them.
This is not a criticism, just an experience.
April 11, 2022, 01:00:27 AM
When I was a newbie I had this kind of observation. What you noted is correct but no one does it intentionally. You could see a better effort in Op but a two liner reply gets all the merits.
When I discovered it, I tried to be the first or second person to reply to every thread and I bagged some merits. So your observation is right.
It happens majorly if the Op is a question and the reply to it answered the question posed by Op correctly.
When I discovered it, I tried to be the first or second person to reply to every thread and I bagged some merits. So your observation is right.
It happens majorly if the Op is a question and the reply to it answered the question posed by Op correctly.
April 10, 2022, 11:30:29 PM
Being in this forum for a sometime now I have discovered and observed that some people created quality topics here that deserves merit but they won't get merited, instead people that just did a little contribution, post or comment on that topic will end up getting merit.
Please I need someone to give me a vivid explanation to that, from old members who has been here for long.
Thanks
Because the topic is common? Lots of factors actually. Sometime the users merited a unique one that are new to them or what he posted is literally good or funny. We cant say a post isnt good based on thr quality itself but the idea is just normal. But this can be missed and overlook thats why some users create topic of quality unmerited post like LoyceV if there are some thread that deserves merit. Please I need someone to give me a vivid explanation to that, from old members who has been here for long.
Thanks
April 10, 2022, 10:36:48 PM
Is there any set standard or guidelines that will be use to checkmate if a post deserves to award merit when reported?
It's all opinion based just like any other social media. For example when you go on reddit and upvote a post or click that heart button on twitter, instagram, etc. you are expressing your opinion about that post that you found useful or you simply liked. It is pretty much the same on bitcointalk with the difference that you don't have unlimited "upvote" power and you also want to highlight the best contribution. 
April 10, 2022, 01:30:52 PM
Being in this forum for a sometime now I have discovered and observed that some people created quality topics here that deserves merit but they won't get merited, instead people that just did a little contribution, post or comment on that topic will end up getting merit.
What criteria did you consider before concluding that a post deserves merit OP, there are a lot of forum users and everyone has their own criteria. Unlike merits sources on this forum, a post or reply has to appeal to someone personally or provide a sort of value they need for it to be merit deserving. I will implore you to exercise patience as well, creating a topic like this sends a message of frustration to others like myself. Keep working hard mate, you will surely get merits for your efforts.Another thing is sometimes when a user comes across a good topic, he/she may not have smerits to give at that moment, and the urge to merit that post fades away before they can have to give, in other to get merits OP, improve the frequency of quality contribution you give to forum.
April 10, 2022, 01:28:02 PM
from your point it means to consider a post as quality it will reflect on the number of people that will merit Such topic.
No, that is not correct. A quality post doesn't earn merits all of the time for quite a lot of reasons, and it does not mean that a post that does not get merited isn't a quality post, you need to understand that merits are a very subjective thing on the forum and there can never be any sort of consensus on what should be.So, Is there any set standard or guidelines that will be use to checkmate if a post deserves to award merit when reported?
No, it is subjective and up to the user/merit source if they want to merit such post or not, and if such posts meet their criteria for being merit worthy or not. 
April 10, 2022, 10:13:47 AM
From the points coystar raised here how people could have different views on what could seem quality topic to people ,So, Is there any set standard or guidelines that will be use to checkmate if a post deserves to award merit when reported?
the forum itself has not set any standard of what a quality post is as people can merit what post they want whether it is an informative post, a shit post or just a simple photo of a meme, etc... that being said, there are members of the forum who have posted threads on how to create better posts. April 10, 2022, 09:47:39 AM
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You made a lot of sense and point here and from this, I have gotten some quality information I need know, sically on the point that post I consider merit worthy may not be so for others,
April 10, 2022, 09:18:47 AM
Being in this forum for a sometime now I have discovered and observed that some people created quality topics here that deserves merit but they won't get merited
Most of bounty hunters and shit-posters ask such question (I don't attack you and I did not check your post history), but they don't understand that if they make constant good contributions, they will receive merit sooner or later.I know the pain when one good post does not receive merit but no worry, if you do 100 good posts, I am sure merit will find you and sometimes months after post's publishing time, it might receive merit.
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instead people that just did a little contribution, post or comment on that topic will end up getting merit.
In fact, it is inaccurate use of merit but fortunately, one member can not rank up from newbie to Legendary by this. 
April 10, 2022, 08:53:46 AM
Being in this forum for a sometime now I have discovered and observed that some people created quality topics here that deserves merit but they won't get merited, instead people that just did a little contribution, post or comment on that topic will end up getting merit.
Before i say anything, you should understand that merit is a very subjective case, and a post you consider merit worthy may not be so for other users, thus if you consider a post merit worthy, meaning if they meet your merit criteria, and you have some smerits, give some to such post and move on. But then, here are some reasons why an OP might not receive merit, but some replies and response to such threads get merited:1) The content in the OP could be wrong.
2) The content in the OP may not have been well structured, thus making it ambiguous to read/understand.
3) The content in the OP was just a ploy at fishing merits.
4) The content in the OP was redundant.
5) The content in the OP helps absolutely no user here.
6) Users/merit sources who saw the post didn't feel it deserved any merit, or it was a topic they are not interested in, etc, etc.
You made a lot of sense and point here and from this, I have gotten some quality information I need know, basically on the point that post I consider merit worthy may not be so for others,.
from your point it means to consider a post as quality it will reflect on the number of people that will merit Such topic. But putting it back to you, this does not take away the fact that such senario has never happened on this forum, though I don't have back records on this. How do we go about it?
I have discovered and observed that some people created quality topics here that deserves merit but they won't get merited
You can report any topic you think it deserves merit(s) on this thread below:[self-moderated] Report unmerited good posts to Merit Source
From the points coystar raised here how people could have different views on what could seem quality topic to people ,So, Is there any set standard or guidelines that will be use to checkmate if a post deserves to award merit when reported?
April 10, 2022, 08:25:06 AM
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It would be more illustrating here to providing a link to a few of those topics that you mention, in order to enable people to give their opinion based on concrete cases, rather than in general abstract terms. Often, what one may see as an interesting meritable topic, may actually be the n-th time the same topic has been treated, which may reduce the chances of being merited. Many factors bear a weight in the meriting process: topic, layout, content, expressivity, moment, board, novelty, intent, reader’s interests, and so forth, and I dare say that, the actual person making the post may, overtime, have an additional chime in the meriting process, as may his "reputation" as a poster.
April 10, 2022, 08:23:23 AM
Being in this forum for a sometime now I have discovered and observed that some people created quality topics here that deserves merit but they won't get merited, instead people that just did a little contribution, post or comment on that topic will end up getting merit.
Please I need someone to give me a vivid explanation to that, from old members who has been here for long.
Thanks
Please I need someone to give me a vivid explanation to that, from old members who has been here for long.
Thanks
The problem is merit system is highly subjective, Maybe it deserve a merit for but it didn't for others. As I observe on merit system, Those merit source mark those quality poster so that they can easily give merits if these users create a topic or post. You can use your local board or report the thread to the merit source thread so that they can check and evaluate on this. Due to massive post here in the forum, it's very hard to notice all our post especially if we are not known as a quality poster, Chances are merit source will just skip your post or thread then look for the quality poster that they are familiar.
April 10, 2022, 08:21:40 AM
Being in this forum for a sometime now I have discovered and observed that some people created quality topics here that deserves merit but they won't get merited, instead people that just did a little contribution, post or comment on that topic will end up getting merit.
Please I need someone to give me a vivid explanation to that, from old members who has been here for long.
Thanks
Please I need someone to give me a vivid explanation to that, from old members who has been here for long.
Thanks
If I feel your post or comment is helpful to others, I will give you merit deserve and the same applies to others. Your post may be helpful but sometimes other members don't view it the way you do or may disagree with you, so they can read and pass your post without giving merit.
Sometimes, it is not that members intentionally ignore quality posts and comments, we do lack merit to send to others when we see quality posts that's why Theymos has created a list of merit source to merit good posts that come their way and even at that, they can't see all the quality posts at the same time and that's why we have this kind of dedicated threads to submit any low unmerited posts.
[self-moderated] Report unmerited good posts to Merit Source
[Merit] Share your best topics with Merit Source
April 10, 2022, 08:13:47 AM
What you think is a quality topic doesn't necessarily mean that others think the same. But even if you think that some topics are not merited enough, there are plenty of merit giveaway threads around to which you can apply. Situations where I saw something similar (on the regular basis) to what you described is when a fake newbie comes to B & H section and start giving advice on what to do on the forum and similar bs. People often see through those merit fishing attempts and that's how you get what you described.
By the way, care to share some examples of what you are talking about, just to see what's your idea of a quality topic? That way we could answer to your question better.
By the way, care to share some examples of what you are talking about, just to see what's your idea of a quality topic? That way we could answer to your question better.
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