Topic: Will the Gambling Sportybet (Company) Refund the Money? - page 3. (Read 857 times)

Things would be different if the boy won with his money. Let us be fair; either you lose or win. I pity his parents ‘coz more likely, the amount he lost wasn’t his own money. Think of this; if the boy won, would he be having the same reaction? Same thing with the gambling platform. We just regret things once the negative outcome take place but will boast when we happened to win something. To the gambling site, well it they haven’t done anything wrong unless they would be proven something. Some lessons in life are learned the hard way. If the platform won’t refund the amount. And for that kid, search for its there for a reason.

During my secondary school days I gambled, I lost and I also won in between. But you should know, whenever it's gone you can't get it back. Only way to get it, is by winning.
You're simply making this very difficult and and long, the story is boring and ohh GOD! Phew!
The Betting Company will never give a listening ear. If OP is feeling very generous, he can go ahead by giving or providing parts of the fees if not all.

With SportyBet, My highest staking power has got to be 30,000k. The games didn't go as planned and I lost, going back to ask and plead for help from SportyBet? That's fuckrey.

The answer to this question will depend on the terms of service of the betting company and the laws guiding gambling in the country. If the terms of service forbid a gambler from getting back their money after losses, then the young man has no hope of getting back his money except on humanitarian grounds. The company might decide to help him and also use him for public awareness. But the consequences will be that more people will do the same thing and expect refunds.

But if the law of the land mandates the casino company to ensure that underage gamblers are denied access through KYC, then the casino might be held accountable. Since they failed to restrict underage gambling, the young man might receive back part or all of the money he lost. This will be a legal matter that will be determined by the court.

Even if sportybet allows underage to gamble, there's no way that money will be refunded as it was clearly stated in that respond that money lost are not refundable. The question should be why will sportybet allows him to register in the first place to gamble when it's against their rules and policy. What have they put in place to check underage and stop them from registering? The boy is too young to go through this trauma. I blamed the parents or guardian for failing on their responsibility by allowing the boy to handle his school fees and end up throwing it on air. During my days in school, I don't know how my school fees are being paid because my parents pay it by themselves and hand me over the necessary documents.

This is an eye opener to his parents and the rest of the parents who doesn't care to know what's going on on their children life. Having access to smart phone at early stage is also responsible for this. Always check your child phone from time to time to know the type of apps or sites that he visits often. Forget about privacy and protect your children from becoming a victim of what would have been averted by proper upbringing. Some good samaritan might help him out by giving him the money but sportybet will definitely not return the money.

Money used for gambling cannot be returned as far as I know, especially if the money is lost due to losing in gambling, after all in every casino or gambling platform site there must be a warning board about minors, but if they miss it and don't read it, that's not the casino's fault but the child's own fault for gambling with his school money.

I'm sure there is someone else behind this child who is trying his luck with his school money and gambling, usually in children like this there is something that encourages him to gamble, but only that child knows the reason he gambles, but on the one hand I know the casino will not be able to return the money that child, after all it has written prohibitions and regulations that every user must agree to. So this might be an important lesson for him in the future and for other children.

Regardless of whether you are underage or not, the fact that you agreed to the terms implies that you met those requirements. Asking for a refund because the money was supposed to be for school fees is amusing. That's why kids are not allowed to gamble; they often don't handle losses well, but when they're winning, they might think they have superpowers.

Even if an underage individual complains that the casino accepted bets from minors, it's hard to beat them, as they know what they are doing. They are in the business and are well-prepared for these kinds of tricks.

And it seems like there is no chance for the child to get back the money he used for gambling. After all, he had lost his gambling and wanted to return his money. The casino didn't want to comply with his wishes because no one was forcing him to gamble and the rules at the casino clearly prohibited minors from gambling for any reason. The child really has to realize his mistake and take responsibility for himself and hopefully, he can use it as a lesson so he doesn't repeat it in the future. But the problem now is that he can't pay his school fees and has to explain what happened to him to his parents. Hopefully, the parents are not angry and can accept their child's mistakes.

I agree the terms of service have no exception if they allow the minor for a refund there will be cheaters who will create a fake claim with fake evidence to present to the casino to ask for a refund, you cannot cheat the casino when it comes to their terms of service they are strict on it and they expect all players to abide by their terms, even if the child bring it on the court, the court will just deny the plea and will favor the casino for upholding their terms.
If the casino knows that a minor is playing on their platform they have the right to confiscate his funds as stated in their terms, this is to discourage minors from playing in casinos online and offline.

Agreed. I believe those whose siding with the boy doesn’t know what’s the terms and condition use. They are only using sympathy with their decision making while this boy will probably do it again once he received refund. He will not gamble his tuition fee if he has no further experience on risking his money before.

This kind of discussion is simply law vs feelings which we all know what will govern in the end. Allowing a refund on this situation will surely open up with chaos on asking for refund when they lose. 

Well, I had no idea what the "African Moonlight story" actually meant until I googled it, but if your idea of a fun children's story includes a father impregnating his own daughter, and gets away with it, then you live in a very sick society as far as I'm concerned.


So, it was a brick-and-mortar casino, not an online one? But regardless, he could still lie about his age or use a fake ID to get in. Unless he can provide irrefutable evidence that the casino was fully aware of his minor status, I don't believe he has a case against the casino.

In the incident, there is actually negligence and guilt on both sides. First of all, let's start with the mistakes made by the child;

The money to be used for school fees should never be used in a very risky activity such as gambling because every individual knows how risky gambling is. Of course, this may differ for children but this is why there is a minimum age limit for gambling. On the other hand, it is certainly stated in the contract which was accepted without reading it at the time of membership that the minimum age limit for gambling is 18. In other words, that contract signed without reading actually explains under what conditions no refund will be provided.

To talk about the mistake of the casino service in this incident;

In accordance with the laws of many countries casino businesses must perform the KYC procedure for every individual who wants to gamble. When the child is created a membership in this casino service the casino service had to apply the KYC procedure and reject the child's membership at this stage before performing any transaction. In other words, the negligence made here actually caused the child to gamble and a legal obligation was not implemented.

Totally true that no one should be stopped on creating topics or discussion something like this even though it isnt really that something having no sense because if you do really check out the situation then it would be obviously that boy wont really be getting his money no matter what because the money that you had spent out on making bets would really be just that final and doesnt matter what those funds real usage would be attached into it then its none of others business or on platforms concern because once you had place out the bet then its considered final and dont make yourself that being that too desperate on asking for some refund.
It would really be just that normal that this boy would be ignored and if things becomes that too noisy and affecting a certain platforms reputation the they might be reconsidering on taking it back but in overall
gambling rules and regulations then its most likely people around do already knows on what would happen.

It would be taken normally that boy having that costly lesson learned into his life and would really make him that realized that gambling is never been that a safe thing. Yes, it could make money
on instant manner but doesnt mean that you would really be out from that risky situation or very dangerous on which you might be losing those funds that you do have in your pocket.
Its not bad to play as long you do make use of the amount which you can afford to lose.

Any gambling company will not return a customer money for any reason, if user has put in his money to bet, it is the same as accepting all the risks that occur when betting and if gambling returns the user's money just because the money is to pay for school, how much? millions of gamblers will ask for their money back and use this as an excuse to get their money back.
This the negative impact if children under age or under 18 when they find out about gambling they will only think about money and winning without thinking about the risks that will occur if club they choose loses or is even cheated by a gambling site.
With this experience, perhaps the child will be scolded by his parents for spending his school money on gambling, but for me it a valuable lesson for him so that in the future he will be better and will not repeat gambling again just to chase his losses.
I'm worried that the child will one day still have a grudge and try to catch up on that loss and as a parent you have to know this or else it will get worse in the long run.

Exactly this is one of the disadvantages of not asking kyc at the registration or signing up process. If the casino ask the boy KYC at the beginning probably this wouldn't Happened and I believed this is not the first time such scenario or thing has happened. I am not blaming the casino in any way but there are somethings they (casinos) should do to prevent such happing in the future because this one now is like a warning to both the casino and the under age people that are gambling. Many out there are still gambling in the hidden places and when they loss big amount of money which meant to do something that is when they would come out to blame the casino. If you are not up to gambling age don't gamble and parents should also warn their wards to avoid gambling. You don't use probability to play gamble. Example. Let me use this my school fees to play gamble and win big so I can balance something in the school. Gambling is not your mate if you loss you have to wear thick skin and if you win then you complete your mission. Gambling is 50/50. All blames goes to the boy and not the casino. And one thing I always says, the casino KYC should be done at the initial time and not the withdrawal time.

We don't know if the player is truly 16 years old. Anyone could claim he's 16 and can easily falsify his information online. Also, the gambling platform explicitly states in its terms and conditions that players must be 18 and above, and there's no way they would have known that he's underage. Being under age does not qualify him for a refund or any kind of pity, if he had won the bet, would he had returned the money that he was underage? Hell no! His school fees is gone and what happened should serve as a life lesson.

I also believe it is worth discussing even if the answer is obvious, the scenario is still possible or there could be people who out of curiosity will check a discussion online to see the possibility of a minor asking for a refund because he gambled it wrongly.

There are thousands of discussions that could happen in gambling we have millions of people gamble, and if members think it's not worth discussing then he or she is free not to participate and let others who want to participate in a discussion do it.

I believe some casino allows to make deposits without completing the KYC first then later on ask for it once the user will withdraw the balance like the typical KYC protocol on crypto casino. I have account on multiple online local casino which only requires mobile number and email to create an account. I believe there’s a disclosure that you will agree that you are 18+ above which automatically lift the liability of the casino to a minor players once they agree on it. 

On this case. The boy will surely don’t get the refund by just begging for it since doing this will make the casino an easy target for same situation like this.

Well I made it clearly that it was African Moonlight story so I can't really tell where he got the story but was purely for entertainment purpose. But one thing we have to know from literature perspective, real stories are coin from fictional stories. Just like George Owell wrote Animal Farm to portray the capitalist world in reality. I am still standing on the point that, if the boy took a good lawyer he might win the case. Yes the boy is a minor or under age which has already violated the T/C of the company, but then why did the casino agent allowed the boy to play the game, if the boy hide his age was the stature of the boy was also hidden? the sportsbook agent would have prevented the boy to play the game. And the only thing I know that the boy will not go to that extent because he will not have money to take the case to court. Because there are lot of questions the casino will also answer.

I really smile for this your comment. In Africa, the real culprits or the corrupt leaders do not loss case, they are the ones win cases in Africa. The presidential election tribunal that is going on in Nigeria is one of the good example. Good lawyers determine your case in Africa, the real winner of the election did not win the case. And it is only in advance countries that justice is always prevail and not in Africa. And that is why because of the corrupt level of the African judiciary and the police, we believe in jungle justice. Definitely those people (players) would be arrested but they gain freedom easily. I believed you heard what happened in Nigeria in the past few weeks, a singer life was threaten and he went to the police to report but no action, until he was finally killed. Well I don't want to go further. There is always a moral lesson in all situation. The boy who loss his school fees to the gambling company has learned his lesson and I believed he will not try it again if he is not an addict.

That story just doesn't hold water. First and foremost, comparing owning a suit to "owning" another human being is completely off the mark. I'm not sure where this case originated, but I can confidently say that there isn't a single country in the world where you can legally "own" another person, especially when it comes to children and minors, who are given even greater protection under the law.

What I gather from this is that either this case has been fabricated, or someone might be pulling your leg, making a mockery of the situation.


Could you provide an example of such a court case, where a player won? I'd be genuinely interested in learning more about it.

In my opinion, it's not about whether it is possible or not, but how a minor can gamble on a gambling site, how he can gamble without the casino knowing that he is still underage, so while many people don't like KYC, KYC can also be done to reduce the use of gambling sites by underage children.
The gambling site has no obligation to return the money unless they have their own considerations to prevent the child from committing other stupid acts, but what I am curious about is how much school money did he use? I think it's not big and according to the story he gambled to get more money to solve other problems, I suspect there was a debt and it could be because of gambling, if true, it's quite sad to see what he is facing.