Will This Bull Run Increase the Number of Signature Campaigns?

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Quote from: KingsDen on November 19, 2024, 04:54:42 PM

Naturally, bull run comes with alot of signature campaigns, reasons being;

New projects are often launched during the bull run.
If I have a project to launch when BTC was at $46k and my budget was $10k. If I was patient and saved the money, by now my budget should worth more than $20k, which means I have no excuse than to launch the campaign.

It is evident that there is inflation and regardless of Bitcoin, $100 does not have the same value as it did 5 or 10 years ago. It is interesting that the payment rate in signature campaigns not follows inflation but also the most common current payment rate can be considered lower compared to some earlier times. Regardless of the bull run or without it.

It is mixers that soard the campaign rate in the past, such as chipmixer that paid as high as $1.5k. Later dropped to $300 before their exit. Another mixer Sinbad also did high amount before the ban of mixers advertisment here and their sudden exit. Apart from the mixers, signature rates have been consistent.
The major difference is that there were more quality posters who could proudly reject $100 campaign then. Now we have less quality posters who could be legendary members but willing to accept $20 full member slot.

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Quote from: KingsDen on November 19, 2024, 04:54:42 PM

Naturally, bull run comes with alot of signature campaigns, reasons being;

New projects are often launched during the bull run.
If I have a project to launch when BTC was at $46k and my budget was $10k. If I was patient and saved the money, by now my budget should worth more than $20k, which means I have no excuse than to launch the campaign.

It is evident that there is inflation and regardless of Bitcoin, $100 does not have the same value as it did 5 or 10 years ago. It is interesting that the payment rate in signature campaigns not follows inflation but also the most common current payment rate can be considered lower compared to some earlier times. Regardless of the bull run or without it.

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I understand your point. Inactive doesn't mean the person.is not active here again but activeness of the person has reduced. Like if he was posting 6-7 or more a day when the person was in campaign but now that he is not in campaign the number has reduced. That is normal.
But I don't think the bull and bear markets have anything to do with the increase and decrease of signature campaigns. When I came I have not noticed that. Campaigns can come at all time . But in 2022, many campaigns left the forum because of the bear market.

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Naturally, bull run comes with alot of signature campaigns, reasons being;

New projects are often launched during the bull run.
If I have a project to launch when BTC was at $46k and my budget was $10k. If I was patient and saved the money, by now my budget should worth more than $20k, which means I have no excuse than to launch the campaign.

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Campaigns will come and go, a bull run mostly pumped due to political reasons will not stay for long.

I have seen that most casino campaigns at present are not running for long. Probably they are not finding enough fruit of the investment they are making here. Gone are the days for 2-3years of campaigns running in the forum. These days we are just happy if we see it run for a month.

That might just coincide with the bitcoin price going bullish, that correlation does not indicate causation.

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It seems like it’s really happening. I didn’t count, but I’ve noticed a lot of new signature campaigns popping up this month, and with Bitcoin hitting $93k, it’s a clear sign that the market has turned bullish. Honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised if more campaigns show up in the next few days, it’s like everyone wants to jump in and join the bull party.

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Quote from: hd49728 on October 19, 2024, 11:01:18 AM

Some no KYC exchanges were not accepted to advertise with signature campaigns too.

Do I miss something? Who didn't let them to advertise? Because signature campaigns don't need any permission to start and even big scams like 1xbit had their campaigns.
When theymos used to sell ad slots on Bitcointalk, he rejected quite many services, but it's already different stuff than Signature campaigns.

Maybe he means this?

Are no-KYC services banned?

Regarding the main point of the thread, I think yes, it will be noticed, but I do not think it will be much more than now, we are not in a bull run itself, we are at the top of the price and at a time of the cycle where it will foreseeably rise in the next 12 months or so. If I were to hire signature campaings to advertise my service I would not do it at the peak of the cycle, now could be the best time.

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Quote from: hd49728 on October 19, 2024, 11:01:18 AM

Some no KYC exchanges were not accepted to advertise with signature campaigns too.

Do I miss something? Who didn't let them to advertise? Because signature campaigns don't need any permission to start and even big scams like 1xbit had their campaigns.
When theymos used to sell ad slots on Bitcointalk, he rejected quite many services, but it's already different stuff than Signature campaigns.

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Quote from: Sanitough on October 15, 2024, 10:36:39 PM

Just recently I noticed that signature campaigns are getting fewer, right? I see a lot of participants who used to be super active, but now they’re out of campaigns. I’ve also been out for a few months, trying to stay active now, hoping to land a spot again soon. With the market getting bullish lately, and all this talk about possibly breaking the ATH, I’m really wondering…

Ban on mixers and no KYC exchanges reduce number of signature campaigns in the forum. Because we all know that there are two main company types that want to advertise on bitcointalk, gambling companies and mixers (or no KYC exchanges).

Banning against mixers since January 2024 actually took out many signature campaigns from mixers. Some no KYC exchanges were not accepted to advertise with signature campaigns too.

But if it is about campaigns from gambling companies, I see a good increase recent months.

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Quote from: Sanitough on October 15, 2024, 10:36:39 PM

So, based on your experience or what you've seen, do you think more companies will start launching campaigns? And will people like me, who’ve been inactive for a bit, have a better shot at getting back in?

Back in the days, the market being bullish increase the numbers of bounties getting launched because it attracts more projects as it's the bull market and there's always extra funds being invested into altcoins from investors.

So many projects gets launched during this period but it doesn't necessary increases the numbers of signature campaign because we have more of casinos doing signature and the state of the market doesn't influence the quantity being launched.

The bull market bring more people to the forum so there might even be less slots available since the quantity of participants increase and we don't always have increased of campaign.

To get a slot in campaign, stay active or you can better still go promote bounties as we have some paying in stablecoin but the payrate isn't as high as those on the service board but atleast you get to receive some pay.

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Most of the new campaigns that launch only accept a few members and are discontinued after about a month. There are some campaigns that have been running for a long time but they rarely have open slots. I was in a long running campaign before but was removed to make room for members from other campaigns that had stopped running. Now it has become like musical chairs where you are constantly moving from one campaign to another.

Crypto is not so niche anymore where Bitcointalk is automatically the best place to advertise. While being on Bitcointalk can still give a business a lot of visibility, there are many other websites that have surpassed its popularity and can be great places to promote a casino or exchange service. I do not expect there to be a sudden resurgence in signature campaigns because there are many more websites to compete with for the advertising budgets of these companies.

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on October 18, 2024, 08:03:08 PM

I see a few saying that there are still the same number of campaigns as usual, but I think people are missing the point. Back in 2017 there were tons of campaigns hiring tons of users. I was managing more than 500 people over 14 campaigns at one point. Lots of campaigns hiring 30-100 users and these days you see campaigns hiring 6-15 users and running for 1-2 weeks on average. Of course there are some that are way above those numbers, but on average the number of participants is a lot lower than it used to be.

Most of the users who say campaign numbers haven’t really changed much are those who created their accounts after the 2017 bull run. But those who’ve been here since 2015 or earlier would likely agree with you.

The evidence is clear when you look at how things were before. (Campaign Management (Accepting campaigns for Altcoinstalks also) ^{BTW, great job for updating the pictures..}

You’ve always been one of my favorite campaign managers, even though I didn’t join many of your campaigns in the past.Seeing campaigns hiring 20+ users back then was something else. It felt like there was room for everyone to join a high-paying campaign, with legendary ranks earning around 0.04 BTC per week or more. If you consistently participated and held your earnings, you could’ve been a millionaire by now with Bitcoin’s current value.

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I see a few saying that there are still the same number of campaigns as usual, but I think people are missing the point. Back in 2017 there were tons of campaigns hiring tons of users. I was managing more than 500 people over 14 campaigns at one point. Lots of campaigns hiring 30-100 users and these days you see campaigns hiring 6-15 users and running for 1-2 weeks on average. Of course there are some that are way above those numbers, but on average the number of participants is a lot lower than it used to be.

Will more companies launch campaigns? Hard to say, companies will continue to use bitcointalk as long as they see value in the campaign. The ICO days are pretty much over, so companies hiring 50-100 users will be few and far between, but I have been seeing a lot of new casinos pop up in the past year. Never know what's going to happen in the future, but I'd stay active if you can make decent posts.

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It is not certain that when the bullrun event comes around it will boost the signature campaign on this forum.
But what I've noticed is that most companies launching signature campaigns now are casinos and swap/dex platforms like Exch or others, if it's from an altcoin company then they do more of a social media campaign by inviting influencers to pitch their project.

If mixers, for example, are not banned on this forum, this is probably what will pop up a lot.

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@Sanitough, I personally think that inactivity is not too big a problem if you show that you are not some ordinary spammer who can't write two meaningful sentences. If you follow when new spots are opened or when a new sig campaign appears, I think you have a good chance of being selected. In the meantime, you can wear the signature of one of the free campaigns.

As for the bull run and the increase in the number of campaigns, it seems that this trend has slowly disappeared over the years, I can only say that before there were many more campaigns and projects that were advertised on the forum. Mixers have of course raised the matter to a higher level when it comes to pay rates, but even if you get $100 a week it's not bad if you already write on the forum - in some countries it's a lot of money, in others it's good as extra income.

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The market condition has nothing to do with signature campaigns; the most stable campaigns are still here, bull run or bear run,, and there was a time that we had a lot of campaigns and it was bear season.
Its the competition that drives platforms to advertise and continue to advertise. New casinos are coming up and they need platforms to advertise.
And there are casinos that want to keep up their presence, so they return to launch a campaign, and there are casinos that reached their target, so they paused their campaign; its not really on the market condition, but the competition.

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The classic era when there have been a bunch of signature campaigns and bounties was during the ICO days. I can remember that there's a lot of them left and right but I don't think that we'll be back in that era even there will be more bull runs to come. The traditional marketing that these projects, casinos, exchanges and other kinds of projects trying to advertise with the niche that they want to will want to spend the maximum exposure that they'll get and that's mostly with social media. As time passes by, there will be lesser campaigns in the forum and those that have stayed in the long term are likely to stay unless they change their approach with the marketing or they have cut the budget. One impact that hit the campaigns was with the banning of the mixers advertising here.

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on October 17, 2024, 05:55:37 AM

Quote from: Sanitough on October 16, 2024, 02:37:45 AM

You're missing the point. If you just take a moment to look, you'll see that campaigns in the past had way more participants compared to now, even if the number of campaigns seems the same. I know this because I've been actively keeping an eye on opportunities.

There are less spots which means managers need to be more selective in who they are letting in IMO. The more reputable members of the forum will have better chances of being accepted vs those that just spam the discussion boards and have been for years. Not saying that is you as I have not looked into your post history, just saying that companies need users representing who are not just the normal discussion boards spammers.

Can't deny it, that’s just how it is. When demand is low but there’s a lot of supply, campaign managers will definitely go for the best posters, leaving the regular ones behind. Reputation plays a big part too, which makes it challenging because users have to build their name to get noticed. That’s just how things work sometimes. I’ve wondered too if reputation gets prioritized over posting style, but in the end, it all depends on the managers and their way of selecting users.

Quote from: Darker45 on October 17, 2024, 09:23:26 PM

The competition is tight, being inactive is certainly a big disadvantage.

I could proved that, Grin

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I guess it's the same status. The number of campaigns here fluctuate. Sometimes there's more, sometimes there's less. But it's certainly a big disadvantage that mixers aren't anymore allowed. We could easily have more than 3 running mixer signature campaigns right now which could hire even more than 30 users. That's, therefore, a significant loss. Ever since they're gone, signature campaign is almost solely supported by gambling alone.

The competition is tight, being inactive is certainly a big disadvantage.

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I doubt if it will, during bull season most altcoin projects tends to emerge and from the look of things, it's like most of them will also try to emerge this time around and what might be more plenty on the forum is bounties and not signature campaign. It was after mixer got banned on the forum that signature campaign reducedreduced and since then, there have not been much new campaign of other companies apart from just a few casinos.

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