Will This Bull Run Increase the Number of Signature Campaigns? - page 2.

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Quote from: icalical on November 26, 2024, 05:24:47 AM

And if I am not mistaken, before that, there are even some altcoins projects that do signature campaign. I am curious of what new type of project on the next bull run will be.

Altcoin projects would be bounty campaigns right, the discussion here is about signature campaigns, the ones that pay in BTC. Mixers are banned in the forum, so since then most of the campaigns on the forum is that of gambling casinos and i believe it will be like that for sometime, we rarely see campaigns from exchanges or instant exchanges, but it would make sense if more crypto services that aren't casinos find the forum attractive to advertise in.

There are several altcoins project choose to add BTC paying signature campaigns. But there's few of them doing this before since maybe there are less good project running around and most of those project posted then choose to pay altcoins are scams.

Indeed its rare to see an exchange running a signature campaign here, maybe the number of newly launched exchange is less compare to those who run a casino that's why its common to see a new casino themed campaigns running in this forum. But for sure there are other project would run a campaign here since bitcointalk is a big platform, for sure project owners would see this as a great platform to market their new projects.

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Quote from: icalical on November 26, 2024, 05:24:47 AM

And if I am not mistaken, before that, there are even some altcoins projects that do signature campaign. I am curious of what new type of project on the next bull run will be.

Altcoin projects would be bounty campaigns right, the discussion here is about signature campaigns, the ones that pay in BTC. Mixers are banned in the forum, so since then most of the campaigns on the forum is that of gambling casinos and i believe it will be like that for sometime, we rarely see campaigns from exchanges or instant exchanges, but it would make sense if more crypto services that aren't casinos find the forum attractive to advertise in.

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Quote from: icalical on November 26, 2024, 05:24:47 AM

I am not a veteran or anything, this is my 7th year on this forum, and talking from experience, every Bull run there will be new type of project that do signature campaign, the previous bull run as I remember brought many Bitcoin mixer project to do signature campaign. And if I am not mistaken, before that, there are even some altcoins projects that do signature campaign. I am curious of what new type of project on the next bull run will be.

The biggest number of campaigns came in during the ICO times. Back then I was new to this forum and was able to go through many campaigns even though almost all of those projects ended up bankrupt or borderline scams because of which the concept of ICO was rebranded to ITO/STO and so on.

Bull run is happening but I dont see more services that need bitcoin as a mode of payment coming up right away - that is the essence of campaigns here. We need companies that are working around bitcoin - the biggest ones currently are casinos and exchanges. Next comes wallets, different services and mining. Unless they understand the potential carried by the members of this forum is advertising their companies, the situation will continue to be same.

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I am not a veteran or anything, this is my 7th year on this forum, and talking from experience, every Bull run there will be new type of project that do signature campaign, the previous bull run as I remember brought many Bitcoin mixer project to do signature campaign. And if I am not mistaken, before that, there are even some altcoins projects that do signature campaign. I am curious of what new type of project on the next bull run will be.

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Quote from: Z-tight on November 22, 2024, 02:36:15 PM

Quote from: Botnake on November 18, 2024, 08:30:17 AM

It seems like it’s really happening. I didn’t count, but I’ve noticed a lot of new signature campaigns popping up this month, and with Bitcoin hitting $93k, it’s a clear sign that the market has turned bullish. Honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised if more campaigns show up in the next few days, it’s like everyone wants to jump in and join the bull party.

Yeah, but maybe it is just a coincidence, or maybe not eh? There have been a lot of new campaigns coming into the forum in the last couple of weeks, just as BTC started rising fast to $99k. I don't think it is directly because of the bull run, irrespective of any market, bitcointalk will always be attractive for crypto projects and businesses to advertise and promote their service here.

I do agree, regardless if we are in a bull run or not, crypto based casinos are a business, billion dollar and so there will be entities who's going to join and wanted to have that piece of the pie.

And signature campaigns since 2018 has been dollar based and not on Bitcoin, so again, irrespective of the cycle, there will still be a lot of signature campaigns here and there are going to be a lot of benefits for them promoting it here.

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@examplens, in other words, just one good advertiser could change the situation for the better in the sense that a competition would start to happen over who would get the better posters. I find it a little strange that no one wants to stand out, but everyone is happily lined up in the same line.

As for mixers, they existed before CM and I participated in one such sig campaign which was initially automated, and later, due to spam, @Lauda took over until it ended.

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Quote from: Lucius on November 22, 2024, 11:27:29 AM

Unfortunately, without the mixer, pay rates are practically halved from what they were before, although the question now is why that is the case. Most of the advertisers on the forum come from the gambling industry which is very profitable, but they clearly see that they don't have to pay more than $100 a week for top posters and as long as the managers agree with that nothing will change.

True, the mixers paid more in order to get better quality participants, this caused the others to raise the payment rate in order to raise the quality and avoid spammers in the campaign.

Quote from: Lucius on November 22, 2024, 11:27:29 AM

I think this is a great time to advertise, and to be the most visible, all you need to do is create a sig campaign that has the highest pay rates that will attract top posters and of course take as many of them as possible. Let's remember how CM did it, and how successful they were because of it.

At the time of CM, other mixers were almost unknown. Simply, CM was predominant. As far as I remember, Bitcointalk was the main channel for their promotion. it could be said that it was a win-win situation.

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Quote from: Z-tight on November 22, 2024, 02:36:15 PM

Quote from: Botnake on November 18, 2024, 08:30:17 AM

It seems like it’s really happening. I didn’t count, but I’ve noticed a lot of new signature campaigns popping up this month, and with Bitcoin hitting $93k, it’s a clear sign that the market has turned bullish. Honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised if more campaigns show up in the next few days, it’s like everyone wants to jump in and join the bull party.

Yeah, but maybe it is just a coincidence, or maybe not eh? There have been a lot of new campaigns coming into the forum in the last couple of weeks, just as BTC started rising fast to $99k. I don't think it is directly because of the bull run, irrespective of any market, bitcointalk will always be attractive for crypto projects and businesses to advertise and promote their service here.

I guess this is common thing happening since there's lots of project or business owner want to promote their business especially if there's a bull run hype happened with Bitcoin. So I guess this is one of the effect of this situation and we see number of businesses rise in this forum. But lets just see if more signature campaigns will came out since this is good indication that more opportunities to earn coming from people here.

There's no doubt that bitcointalk will always be attractive platform to those people who want to introduce their business since so this is the biggest bitcoin forum exist and so far many people goes to discuss many things about bitcoin and crypto related matters.

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Quote from: Z-tight on November 22, 2024, 02:36:15 PM

bitcointalk will always be attractive for crypto projects and businesses to advertise and promote their service here.

Yes, Bitcointalk is a great platform, but you also have to give credit where credit is due, and these are campaign managers; they are the ones who invited, proposed, gave statistics, and explained the many benefits of promoting their project here.
Many platform owners are not aware that you can launch a signature campaign here or do not know how to market their platform; it is the managers who explain, invite, and guide them on the steps to take to market their platform properly.

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Quote from: Botnake on November 18, 2024, 08:30:17 AM

It seems like it’s really happening. I didn’t count, but I’ve noticed a lot of new signature campaigns popping up this month, and with Bitcoin hitting $93k, it’s a clear sign that the market has turned bullish. Honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised if more campaigns show up in the next few days, it’s like everyone wants to jump in and join the bull party.

Yeah, but maybe it is just a coincidence, or maybe not eh? There have been a lot of new campaigns coming into the forum in the last couple of weeks, just as BTC started rising fast to $99k. I don't think it is directly because of the bull run, irrespective of any market, bitcointalk will always be attractive for crypto projects and businesses to advertise and promote their service here.

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Quote from: examplens on November 20, 2024, 04:49:12 PM

It is evident that there is inflation and regardless of Bitcoin, $100 does not have the same value as it did 5 or 10 years ago. It is interesting that the payment rate in signature campaigns not follows inflation but also the most common current payment rate can be considered lower compared to some earlier times. Regardless of the bull run or without it.

Unfortunately, without the mixer, pay rates are practically halved from what they were before, although the question now is why that is the case. Most of the advertisers on the forum come from the gambling industry which is very profitable, but they clearly see that they don't have to pay more than $100 a week for top posters and as long as the managers agree with that nothing will change.

I think this is a great time to advertise, and to be the most visible, all you need to do is create a sig campaign that has the highest pay rates that will attract top posters and of course take as many of them as possible. Let's remember how CM did it, and how successful they were because of it.

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Quote from: examplens on November 20, 2024, 04:49:12 PM

Quote from: KingsDen on November 19, 2024, 04:54:42 PM

Naturally, bull run comes with alot of signature campaigns, reasons being;

New projects are often launched during the bull run.
If I have a project to launch when BTC was at $46k and my budget was $10k. If I was patient and saved the money, by now my budget should worth more than $20k, which means I have no excuse than to launch the campaign.

It is evident that there is inflation and regardless of Bitcoin, $100 does not have the same value as it did 5 or 10 years ago. It is interesting that the payment rate in signature campaigns not follows inflation but also the most common current payment rate can be considered lower compared to some earlier times. Regardless of the bull run or without it.

It is mixers that soard the campaign rate in the past, such as chipmixer that paid as high as $1.5k. Later dropped to $300 before their exit. Another mixer Sinbad also did high amount before the ban of mixers advertisment here and their sudden exit. Apart from the mixers, signature rates have been consistent.
The major difference is that there were more quality posters who could proudly reject $100 campaign then. Now we have less quality posters who could be legendary members but willing to accept $20 full member slot.

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Quote from: KingsDen on November 19, 2024, 04:54:42 PM

Naturally, bull run comes with alot of signature campaigns, reasons being;

New projects are often launched during the bull run.
If I have a project to launch when BTC was at $46k and my budget was $10k. If I was patient and saved the money, by now my budget should worth more than $20k, which means I have no excuse than to launch the campaign.

It is evident that there is inflation and regardless of Bitcoin, $100 does not have the same value as it did 5 or 10 years ago. It is interesting that the payment rate in signature campaigns not follows inflation but also the most common current payment rate can be considered lower compared to some earlier times. Regardless of the bull run or without it.

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I understand your point. Inactive doesn't mean the person.is not active here again but activeness of the person has reduced. Like if he was posting 6-7 or more a day when the person was in campaign but now that he is not in campaign the number has reduced. That is normal.
But I don't think the bull and bear markets have anything to do with the increase and decrease of signature campaigns. When I came I have not noticed that. Campaigns can come at all time . But in 2022, many campaigns left the forum because of the bear market.

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Naturally, bull run comes with alot of signature campaigns, reasons being;

New projects are often launched during the bull run.
If I have a project to launch when BTC was at $46k and my budget was $10k. If I was patient and saved the money, by now my budget should worth more than $20k, which means I have no excuse than to launch the campaign.

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Campaigns will come and go, a bull run mostly pumped due to political reasons will not stay for long.

I have seen that most casino campaigns at present are not running for long. Probably they are not finding enough fruit of the investment they are making here. Gone are the days for 2-3years of campaigns running in the forum. These days we are just happy if we see it run for a month.

That might just coincide with the bitcoin price going bullish, that correlation does not indicate causation.

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It seems like it’s really happening. I didn’t count, but I’ve noticed a lot of new signature campaigns popping up this month, and with Bitcoin hitting $93k, it’s a clear sign that the market has turned bullish. Honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised if more campaigns show up in the next few days, it’s like everyone wants to jump in and join the bull party.

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Quote from: hd49728 on October 19, 2024, 11:01:18 AM

Some no KYC exchanges were not accepted to advertise with signature campaigns too.

Do I miss something? Who didn't let them to advertise? Because signature campaigns don't need any permission to start and even big scams like 1xbit had their campaigns.
When theymos used to sell ad slots on Bitcointalk, he rejected quite many services, but it's already different stuff than Signature campaigns.

Maybe he means this?

Are no-KYC services banned?

Regarding the main point of the thread, I think yes, it will be noticed, but I do not think it will be much more than now, we are not in a bull run itself, we are at the top of the price and at a time of the cycle where it will foreseeably rise in the next 12 months or so. If I were to hire signature campaings to advertise my service I would not do it at the peak of the cycle, now could be the best time.

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Quote from: hd49728 on October 19, 2024, 11:01:18 AM

Some no KYC exchanges were not accepted to advertise with signature campaigns too.

Do I miss something? Who didn't let them to advertise? Because signature campaigns don't need any permission to start and even big scams like 1xbit had their campaigns.
When theymos used to sell ad slots on Bitcointalk, he rejected quite many services, but it's already different stuff than Signature campaigns.

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Quote from: Sanitough on October 15, 2024, 10:36:39 PM

Just recently I noticed that signature campaigns are getting fewer, right? I see a lot of participants who used to be super active, but now they’re out of campaigns. I’ve also been out for a few months, trying to stay active now, hoping to land a spot again soon. With the market getting bullish lately, and all this talk about possibly breaking the ATH, I’m really wondering…

Ban on mixers and no KYC exchanges reduce number of signature campaigns in the forum. Because we all know that there are two main company types that want to advertise on bitcointalk, gambling companies and mixers (or no KYC exchanges).

Banning against mixers since January 2024 actually took out many signature campaigns from mixers. Some no KYC exchanges were not accepted to advertise with signature campaigns too.

But if it is about campaigns from gambling companies, I see a good increase recent months.

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