Will This Bull Run Increase the Number of Signature Campaigns? - page 4.

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Quote from: examplens on October 16, 2024, 05:32:08 AM

The problem with reduced activity on the forum, and therefore a slightly lower interest of companies to promote themselves through signature campaigns, was caused by the Bitcoitnalk forum itself.

Correct. Theymos disabled ads. Theymos forbid the promotion of mixer campaigns. Theymos has done nothing to make the forum more user-friendly for mobile users. I guess the hundreds of millions (or is it billions?) dollars worth of BTC isn't enough of a budget to make improvements to Bitcointalk.

Quote from: shield132 on October 16, 2024, 07:03:24 AM

I think that we should expect increased web traffic during bull run because that's time when media promotes Bitcoin and that's the moment when people google Bitcoin and get Bitcointalk in search suggestions. This should be a motivator for companies to run a signature campaign but from my experience, the problem for them is that during bull run, there are frequently sharp rises and falls, which makes it hard for them to manage the budget for advertising because for example, if they paid 0.003 BTC on Monday but the net day price went up to 30%, they don't like it.

Bitcoin being volatile is nothing new. It's part of the game. Bitcoin was more volatile in the past, but it didn't prevent companies from running signature campaigns on the forum or users from participating in them.

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Quote from: Sanitough on October 15, 2024, 10:36:39 PM

So, based on your experience r what you've seen, do you think more companies will start launching campaigns? And will people like me, who’ve been inactive for a bit, have a better shot at getting back in?

Companies do not just come here and launch a campaign; the truth is, the campaign managers are the ones responsible for convincing these companies to launch a campaign to gain leads and brand themselves here because of the data they presented.
And our jobs as a community are to make this forum attractive to companies by engaging and having great discussions about the Cryptocurrency industries, Bull run or bear, it doesn't matter as long as everyone here is making this forum great and companies are convinced that this is a good place to brand their products or services.

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I don't think a bull run will bring more campaigns to the forum, at least not significantly. We will surely get new members coming in here to ask questions because of fomo, but i don't know if it will attract services to come here and advertise, but we would see. Signature campaigns are not going to go away completely in the forum, bitcointalk is still a great place for crypto services to advertise, so they will still use it for as long as it is available to them.

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Quote from: examplens on October 16, 2024, 05:32:08 AM

The problem with reduced activity on the forum, and therefore a slightly lower interest of companies to promote themselves through signature campaigns, was caused by the Bitcoitnalk forum itself.
Previously, this forum was one of the few places that dealt more deeply with crypto and one of the few promotion places. That promotion was good enough for crypto to take a serious place on many other platforms, so the result is that crypto-related people are not limited to this place only.

Bitcointalk is still one of the most relevant places for discussions about Bitcoin and crypto, the problem is more the lack of new quality projects.

I remember having a wider variety of signature campaigns back in 2017, which was basically my first major attempt at being active on the forum. New ones would emerge every single week, with payouts ranging from low for less experienced and newer users to extremely high (see Chipmixer), but this seems to have changed. What do you think is the most significant reason for the reduced activity? From how I see things, the mixer ban didn't help, as it shut down the most prestige campaign, along with a few others, but it has to be something else as well.

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I think we need to have more quality, not quantity of campaigns, but ''bull run'' probably won't change things significantly.
It is better to have less campaigns with quality members, than many campaigns with bunch of low quality posts.
Maybe we should all try to improve first if we want to see positive changes in forum.

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No, I don't expect big changes. Maybe several new campaigns will appear, but difficult to expect that we will get many new campaigns. Majority of campaigns that we have now is about gambling. Mixers isn't allowed here anymore, while other kind of services choose to advertise in other areas. Like now, I watch basketball on TV and see ads oof crypto trading platform on LED boards. I never saw them advertising on Bitcointalk.
Like said above, Bitcointalk traffic is declining, and I would say that audience here isn't same as it was 5 years ago.

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Quote from: Sanitough on October 15, 2024, 10:36:39 PM

Just recently I noticed that signature campaigns are getting fewer, right? I see a lot of participants who used to be super active, but now they’re out of campaigns. I’ve also been out for a few months, trying to stay active now, hoping to land a spot again soon. With the market getting bullish lately, and all this talk about possibly breaking the ATH, I’m really wondering…

So, based on your experience or what you've seen, do you think more companies will start launching campaigns? And will people like me, who’ve been inactive for a bit, have a better shot at getting back in?

The bull run has never been a distinctive criteria guaranteeing the launching of new signature campaigns on the forum, but it's only just that when there is a rise in the price of Bitcoin, most projects which had lots of savings in Bitcoin are likely to have excess profits to run little awareness such as a signature campaign or giveaway. But Moreover, a signature campaign just got launched today (i.e LuckyDiamond.io) by Little Mouse, which is likely a good sign we might see more signature campaigns come in as the price of Bitcoin continues to rise. However, it's not a guarantee.

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Quote from: examplens on October 16, 2024, 05:32:08 AM

The problem with reduced activity on the forum, and therefore a slightly lower interest of companies to promote themselves through signature campaigns, was caused by the Bitcoitnalk forum itself.
Previously, this forum was one of the few places that dealt more deeply with crypto and one of the few promotion places. That promotion was good enough for crypto to take a serious place on many other platforms, so the result is that crypto-related people are not limited to this place only.

Maybe it's because people are more educated about Bitcoin and crypto in general, so there’s less traffic compared to before. Back in the day when altcoins were still popular, and bounty campaigns were full of scammy projects, people were really interested in investing. That created a lot of opportunities for signature campaigns too. I’m talking about the years up until 2018, but slowly, due to the high percentage of scams in altcoins, people started leaving the forum. Yet, the traffic was still big at that time. Then the mixers disappeared, and now most campaigns are in gambling, so it really reduced. We’re no longer in the early stages—people have more places to learn, and this forum is just one of many now.

However, when it comes to signature campaigns, I think they just come and go, like most of them. In fact, as of today, there’s a new campaign run by LM that’s looking for 8 hero members to join, and of course, it’s for gambling again. I saw that OP is already applying.

Quote from: examplens on October 16, 2024, 05:32:08 AM

Bitcointalk is still one of the most relevant places for discussions about Bitcoin and crypto, the problem is more the lack of new quality projects.

No doubt, Bitcointalk is still the best when it comes to that (maybe a little bias here, but it’s true)... But what do you mean by the lack of new quality projects? What projects exactly? Sorry, I didn’t catch that.

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Quote from: Sanitough on October 15, 2024, 10:36:39 PM

Just recently I noticed that signature campaigns are getting fewer, right? I see a lot of participants who used to be super active, but now they’re out of campaigns. I’ve also been out for a few months, trying to stay active now, hoping to land a spot again soon. With the market getting bullish lately, and all this talk about possibly breaking the ATH, I’m really wondering…

So, based on your experience or what you've seen, do you think more companies will start launching campaigns? And will people like me, who’ve been inactive for a bit, have a better shot at getting back in?

I think that we should expect increased web traffic during bull run because that's time when media promotes Bitcoin and that's the moment when people google Bitcoin and get Bitcointalk in search suggestions. This should be a motivator for companies to run a signature campaign but from my experience, the problem for them is that during bull run, there are frequently sharp rises and falls, which makes it hard for them to manage the budget for advertising because for example, if they paid 0.003 BTC on Monday but the net day price went up to 30%, they don't like it.

Quote from: BlackHatCoiner on October 16, 2024, 02:52:13 AM

Signature campaigns are more about prestige nowadays than advertising.

Besides prestige, it still does its job. Slowly it brings traffic to websites, and increases brand awareness and identity. That matters a lot, that's a win psychologically and it converts into success.

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The problem with reduced activity on the forum, and therefore a slightly lower interest of companies to promote themselves through signature campaigns, was caused by the Bitcoitnalk forum itself.
Previously, this forum was one of the few places that dealt more deeply with crypto and one of the few promotion places. That promotion was good enough for crypto to take a serious place on many other platforms, so the result is that crypto-related people are not limited to this place only.

Bitcointalk is still one of the most relevant places for discussions about Bitcoin and crypto, the problem is more the lack of new quality projects.

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Quote from: BlackHatCoiner on October 16, 2024, 02:52:13 AM

Unfortunately, reality is that this place isn't providing the same service it used to. A lot less traffic, less people genuinely interested in Bitcoin (or at least, interested to talk about it), and less services allowed to be advertised. (Not just mixers, this forum used to allow advertisements in the top of every thread.)

Signature campaigns are more about prestige nowadays than advertising.

I remember back in the day, exchanges loved advertising on the forum, but now I only see one exchange running a campaign. If you recall, there was Yobit (which brought a lot of spam) and Livecoin, which eventually turned out to be a scam. Those are the ones I remember, but there were definitely more before, and now they're gone. It’s true that most advertisers today are from the gambling business, and because of that, even those who don’t usually gamble are learning just to relate to what they’re promoting.

I brought this up because, during a bull run, people are generally more eager to invest, or even gamble, since bull runs mean there’s a lot of money to be made by investors. So, if that’s the case, it’s probably the best time to advertise, whether you’re running a casino, an exchange, or any other legal service.

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Unfortunately, reality is that this place isn't providing the same service it used to. A lot less traffic, less people genuinely interested in Bitcoin (or at least, interested to talk about it), and less services allowed to be advertised. (Not just mixers, this forum used to allow advertisements in the top of every thread.)

Signature campaigns are more about prestige nowadays than advertising.

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Regardless of bull or bear market, I don't think much will change. The fact is that the newer generations aren't big fans of discussion forums. This isn't just a Bitcointalk problem. It's an industry-wide phenomena. They are not going to spend hours looking at a white and light-blue background and reading various opinions from unknown people if they can get what they need by watching a YouTube video or use faster communication channels like social media.

Unless something changes and people learn to appreciate discussion forums again, I don't expect much to change in terms of traffic and increase in advertisement potential of Bitcointalk.

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Quote from: LogitechMouse on October 16, 2024, 01:04:05 AM

Quote from: Sanitough on October 15, 2024, 10:36:39 PM

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So, based on your experience or what you've seen, do you think more companies will start launching campaigns? And will people like me, who’ve been inactive for a bit, have a better shot at getting back in?

With this thread that you created, it's looking obvious that you're just here if you have on a paid signature campaign. If you're not, you aren't active at all. I mean don't get me wrong because there might be a reason why you became inactive, but to create a thread like this, and this is what we will be reading?

I've been active but not super active, and there's a difference between inactive and active. This thread isn't about me being active, if you understand the title. I was just asking if you’ve noticed any correlation between the increase in signature campaigns during a bull run.

If you're judging me, that's on you, but no one creates a thread just to be criticized, at least not me.

It also seems like you're accusing me of only being active when I have a paid signature campaign, but that's not true. I don't have a campaign now, yet I've been active these past few days. Just because I'm not posting a lot doesn’t mean I'm inactive, especially since this forum offers more to read than to post if you get what I mean. Good for you if you keep the same activity level with or without a signature, but I’ll tell you this: the majority of users, including myself, are less active when they're not in a signature. If you can prove me wrong, then I'll be inactive for you.

Quote from: LogitechMouse on October 16, 2024, 01:04:05 AM

Try to stay active first like what they've said. Being out for a few months (for some reasons) will decrease your chances of being accepted on a campaign because you know what the campaign manager needs, right? Wink

As for the number of campaigns, I don't see that much of a change as well. As for your final question, you will always have a shot to get back in AS LONG AS you're active, and now that you're back (hoping), I assume that you will be active again.

You're missing the point. If you just take a moment to look, you'll see that campaigns in the past had way more participants compared to now, even if the number of campaigns seems the same. I know this because I've been actively keeping an eye on opportunities.

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There is a decrease in the payout rate, but the real problem is that most of the campaigns are gambling campaigns, there are rarely new campaigns for other projects or even advertisements for altcoins, which means that if gambling campaigns are banned in the future, paid signature campaigns on the forum will be rare.

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Quote from: Sanitough on October 15, 2024, 10:36:39 PM

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So, based on your experience or what you've seen, do you think more companies will start launching campaigns? And will people like me, who’ve been inactive for a bit, have a better shot at getting back in?

With this thread that you created, it's looking obvious that you're just here if you have on a paid signature campaign. If you're not, you aren't active at all. I mean don't get me wrong because there might be a reason why you became inactive, but to create a thread like this, and this is what we will be reading?

Try to stay active first like what they've said. Being out for a few months (for some reasons) will decrease your chances of being accepted on a campaign because you know what the campaign manager needs, right? Wink

As for the number of campaigns, I don't see that much of a change as well. As for your final question, you will always have a shot to get back in AS LONG AS you're active, and now that you're back (hoping), I assume that you will be active again.

Quote from: Sanitough on October 15, 2024, 11:45:57 PM

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Right now, most campaigns only have a handful of participants, so I think we really need more campaigns to catch up and give others looking for a slot some chances.

Well, it's up to the business owners if they want to launch a signature campaign here or not.

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Quote from: Apocollapse on October 15, 2024, 11:13:22 PM

On November 2021, there were 17 campaigns (2 mixer campaigns), so it doesn't really change.

With the data you showed, things might seem unchanged, but losing two mixer campaigns that employed a lot of users is definitely a big deal. Plus, when a signature campaign like BestChange, which had tons of participants, stops running, that’s another hit. Right now, most campaigns only have a handful of participants, so I think we really need more campaigns to catch up and give others looking for a slot some chances.

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Inactivity reduces your chances of been accepted to a campaign.
The better Bitcoin performs and it gains fame the higher likelihood a firm would want to eat and get something from the increase
Especially when such increase brings about an higher interest and traffic to the forum.
And also I think they have increased since September compared to subsequent month.
Okay @Apocollapse has shown the difference.

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Nope, two months ago there were only 16 campaigns, but now we have 18 active campaigns (Trustdice and Godex are on hold now), technically there are more campaigns now.

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On November 2021, there were 17 campaigns (2 mixer campaigns), so it doesn't really change.

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For me, the rise of Bitcoin price not really attract companies to run signature campaigns because most people choose to discuss on Twitter instead of this forum. The most important thing is to have traffic, however the traffic are getting lower and lower.

This thread should be moved to Service Discussion.

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Just recently I noticed that signature campaigns are getting fewer, right? I see a lot of participants who used to be super active, but now they’re out of campaigns. I’ve also been out for a few months, trying to stay active now, hoping to land a spot again soon. With the market getting bullish lately, and all this talk about possibly breaking the ATH, I’m really wondering…

So, based on your experience or what you've seen, do you think more companies will start launching campaigns? And will people like me, who’ve been inactive for a bit, have a better shot at getting back in?

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