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Highlights from Day 14 of the Beijing Winter Olympics

With 15 gold medals, Norway set a new Olympic record.
Russian figure skater Shcherbakova wins the women's single gold as Valieva finishes fourth.
After dominating the half-pipe final, China's Eileen Gu wins her second Olympic gold medal.
Sweden and Great Britain will face off in the men's curling final.
The 1,000m race is won by Japanese speed skater Miho Takagi, setting a new Olympic record.
Sweden's Sandra Naeslund wins gold in ski cross.
The ROC will face Finland in the men's ice hockey final.
Lidiia Hunko, a Ukrainian bobsledder, tested positive for a prohibited substance.


Olympic Medal Table (Top 10)


Source: https://olympics.com/beijing-2022/olympic-games/en/results/all-sports/medal-standings.htm
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For as long as I can remember the winter and summer games have always been held in different countries.

Both winter and summer games take place every 4 years this way every 2 years we will have either one or the other.

The only recent peculiarity occurred this year due to Covid and the postponement of the summer games for a year.

I would say that winter games popularity among bitcointalk.org gambling community grew just because.of this thread. People in general are not much interested in winter games. Today's top headline was Kamila Valieva, as she finished 4th in skating after she was allowed to continue her winter olympics journey by CAS.
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The Chairman of the International Olympic Committee raised the issue of limiting the minimum age of athletes allowed to participate in the Olympic Games.  After the story with the 15-year-old figure skater Valeeva, I think this is the right decision.  Such very young athletes should not participate for reasons of their still teenage psyche, which can be seriously disturbed by the stress of losing.

Any professional sport is violence against the body. And it's one thing if it's an adult's body and another if it's a child's body. This is a good proposal, but to be honest, it is unlikely to be accepted, since the existing training schemes prepare athletes for competitions almost from birth, no one will break these schemes. And in fact, children will not be protected in any way even if this proposal is accepted - they will be tortured long before the legal age for competitions with training and preparation.
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Right, adding a comment on Norway. They now have 35 medals with 2 days ++ to go, reaching their target of 32 already. 15 gold too, 50% more than the next best (Germany). All to be expected, I guess? Am reading now that many countries and ROC actually build a strategy around getting just silver and bronze.


Norway loading the medals tally table with 15 gold and still 2 days to go. Now it's very much clear that Norway will get first position.  Norway has now total of 368 medals in winter olympics. Norway is too good in Alpine skiing and results of some categories are still to come, so there are more Gold still waiting for Norway.
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Right, adding a comment on Norway. They now have 35 medals with 2 days ++ to go, reaching their target of 32 already. 15 gold too, 50% more than the next best (Germany). All to be expected, I guess? Am reading now that many countries and ROC actually build a strategy around getting just silver and bronze.

The Chairman of the International Olympic Committee raised the issue of limiting the minimum age of athletes allowed to participate in the Olympic Games.  After the story with the 15-year-old figure skater Valeeva, I think this is the right decision.  Such very young athletes should not participate for reasons of their still teenage psyche, which can be seriously disturbed by the stress of losing.

Well, to be fair, I've seen the stress and psyche of 20 year olds and they're not much better. I do agree there's a need for age category for youth too, though. Young talent needs to be protected, though even in professional sports, not all of them have an age minimum that's appropriate. Footballers playing senior games at 16 (the minimum I think in EPL) isn't very wise IMO.
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The Chairman of the International Olympic Committee raised the issue of limiting the minimum age of athletes allowed to participate in the Olympic Games.  After the story with the 15-year-old figure skater Valeeva, I think this is the right decision.  Such very young athletes should not participate for reasons of their still teenage psyche, which can be seriously disturbed by the stress of losing.
We recommend that the age of athletes who are allowed to participate in the Olympics or other major events is from 17 years and over because there are considerations of psychological factors that might affect them, especially if they can't compete with other athletes. Yes, stress is one of the most common factors among teenagers. Even though experienced instructors will still coach them, they are still teenagers who have no experience and still need the guidance of their parents. Maybe a child of that age can be included in a regional or national level championship while continuing to see their mental and mental side. If they are ready to participate in a big event, they can participate and be prepared to go to the event.
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Norway is country with only 5.5 million inhabitants yet they dominate in every winter olympics not only this one. Norway were number one in  PyeongChang with 39 medals and finished second at sochi with 26 medals. They will dominate future winter olympics also since they live in extremely cold conditions throughout the year and winter olympics sports like cross-country skiing start from age of 2.

Yes, without a doubt, they are the ones who are always in the best position to earn more in this type of sport. While in many countries children go to play football, these go to the ski slopes.

What is strange is that countries like Canada, or even the USA, are more competitive, as they also have excellent conditions to practice these sports.
However, for some reason, athletes from the USA and Canada do not show such achievements as athletes from the Scandinavian countries, As well as athletes from Germany and Austria. 
I don't even understand why Americans don't like winter sports so much.  The only explanation that comes to mind is that they prioritize American football, baseball and basketball. Wink  And the strongest athletes in these sports. 
Well, of course there is still the strongest Canadian hockey school. Smiley
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Norway is country with only 5.5 million inhabitants yet they dominate in every winter olympics not only this one. Norway were number one in  PyeongChang with 39 medals and finished second at sochi with 26 medals. They will dominate future winter olympics also since they live in extremely cold conditions throughout the year and winter olympics sports like cross-country skiing start from age of 2.

Yes, without a doubt, they are the ones who are always in the best position to earn more in this type of sport. While in many countries children go to play football, these go to the ski slopes.

What is strange is that countries like Canada, or even the USA, are more competitive, as they also have excellent conditions to practice these sports.
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The Chairman of the International Olympic Committee raised the issue of limiting the minimum age of athletes allowed to participate in the Olympic Games.  After the story with the 15-year-old figure skater Valeeva, I think this is the right decision.  Such very young athletes should not participate for reasons of their still teenage psyche, which can be seriously disturbed by the stress of losing.

Good point. Summer Olympic gymnastics has age restriction for a long time. Athletes must be 15 years old minimum. The reason why this was introduced, because kids body and bones are much more flexible in the younger age. In gymnastics, when you are 19 (for example), you are already considered old and not able to do some elements perfectly. But this age restriction is a good way to cheat. There athletes, who were 12-13 years old IRL, and were 15 in passport.
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The Chairman of the International Olympic Committee raised the issue of limiting the minimum age of athletes allowed to participate in the Olympic Games.  After the story with the 15-year-old figure skater Valeeva, I think this is the right decision.  Such very young athletes should not participate for reasons of their still teenage psyche, which can be seriously disturbed by the stress of losing.
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Once again, Norway proves that it is very strong in winter sports, being the country with the highest number of Gold medals. Germany, in second place, also proved to be very strong in this type of sport. The third place is yet to be defined between the USA and Sweden.

Although the games are not over yet, there shouldn't be too many changes to the top spots of the medal table.

Norway is country with only 5.5 million inhabitants yet they dominate in every winter olympics not only this one. Norway were number one in  PyeongChang with 39 medals and finished second at sochi with 26 medals. They will dominate future winter olympics also since they live in extremely cold conditions throughout the year and winter olympics sports like cross-country skiing start from age of 2.
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Highlight of the day obviously was women figure skating competiton. Anna Scherbakova won gold, Alexandra Trusova was 2nd, but she wasn't happen about it and reacted very emotionally. Kaori Sakamoto took bronze. Kamila Valieva wasn't able to handle pressure, have fallen several times and was just 4th. After all, I just feel sorry what she had to experience in recent days. After all, she is just 15 years old kid and her coach is responsible for thing which happened.
What a disaster for alpine skier Mikaela Shiffrin - she was favorite of Olympics, but she have fallen in all 3 competitions - slalom, giant slalom and alpine combined:
https://twitter.com/eurosport/status/1494235571887218692?
Canada women hockey team took gold after beating USA 3:2. They were leading 3:0 and controlled game most of time.
Tomorrow hockey semifinals - Finland - Slovakia and Russia Sweden. Finland is favorite on paper, while in other semifinal chances is 50/50. I just hate that first semifinal starts so early :/.

By the way, Russian athletes perform very well at these Olympic Games, in the overall medal ranking they have 3rd place with 24 Olympic medals. True, there are only 4 gold medals among them.
I think that these Olympics leave mixed feelings for Russia. Total number of medals is big, but they have just 5 golden medals. I also read somehwhere that they also lead by 4th place finishes, or so called wooden medals.
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Once again, Norway proves that it is very strong in winter sports, being the country with the highest number of Gold medals. Germany, in second place, also proved to be very strong in this type of sport. The third place is yet to be defined between the USA and Sweden.

Although the games are not over yet, there shouldn't be too many changes to the top spots of the medal table.
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It seems that all charges against Valieva have been dropped and tomorrow she will perform in the individual program along with all the other participants.
Valieva's headquarters came up with (or told the truth) a variant of how a prohibited substance could get into her body and they were believed. A difficult decision and in any case, many are already very unhappy with it.
But scandals (including doping) are an integral part of any big competition.

The Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) gave decision in favour of 15 years old Kamila Valieva after dismissing appeals from the International Olympic Committee (IOC), the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA) and the governing skating body (ISU). Her minor age was the kay factor that turned the decision in her favor.  More about this news here
The truth is that it is a shame about that athlete, we were all surprised that at only 15 years old she did everything she did, but doping makes everything go into oblivion and it is also seen as something embarrassing, and this is not good for the self-esteem of an athlete, I hope that she can recover from such a strong emotional blow, and that it does not become a trauma for such a young athlete and that the world does not judge her much, I am surprised to see the level of Norway in these games Olympics, and seeing some athletes of Latin American origin see them participate, of course they are not at the level of the leading countries, but it could be said that there is good material to make a respectable representation.
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Team US were on fourth place in 2018 with 9 gold and total of 23 medals. In 2014 again fourth place with 9 gold and total of 28 medals. Third in 2010 with 9 gold and total of 37 medals. Right now they are on the third place with 8 gold and total of 20 medals. I would say that they show more stability than others Cheesy I think they could get medals in figure skating and bobsleigh. In other events that are left medal table leaders will take gold probably.

Despite doping scandal with Kamila Valieva, were there any other big ones? Does anyone know?

USA haven't performed bad as they are 3rd on medal table with 8 gold medal. Still 2 to 3 days left in the game and they may grab some more medals. Norway and other scandinavian countries are always on top in winter Olympics.

Kamila Valieva misses the medal, Winter Olympics: Kamila Valieva misses out on podium as she finishes fourth. Despite all controversies she came back, fight and finishes forth in skating thats what the spirit of Olympics is.
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I am embarrassed by the poor performances of athletes from the USA. Why do they show bad results. Perhaps the coronovirus affected the participation of the strongest athletes, but the fact remains.

Team US were on fourth place in 2018 with 9 gold and total of 23 medals. In 2014 again fourth place with 9 gold and total of 28 medals. Third in 2010 with 9 gold and total of 37 medals. Right now they are on the third place with 8 gold and total of 20 medals. I would say that they show more stability than others Cheesy I think they could get medals in figure skating and bobsleigh. In other events that are left medal table leaders will take gold probably.

Despite doping scandal with Kamila Valieva, were there any other big ones? Does anyone know?
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It is clear that Norway and Germany are the strongest countries with developed winter sports and, accordingly, with excellent athletes and teams.
I am embarrassed by the poor performances of athletes from the USA. Why do they show bad results. Perhaps the coronovirus affected the participation of the strongest athletes, but the fact remains.
By the way, Russian athletes perform very well at these Olympic Games, in the overall medal ranking they have 3rd place with 24 Olympic medals. True, there are only 4 gold medals among them.

But let's see, there are 3 more days before the end of the games.
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And in general, I liked the way the Chinese organized them.
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Now Norway can calm down because the difference in medals is already a bit far from Germany. But they still have to be careful because the German team could win another match and win gold, silver or bronze. As long as Norway can maintain their team spirit, they can win every game but it's not easy because teams from other countries will try hard. So the rest of these events will still be stressful for all countries because they could unexpectedly take other country's positions.
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Today it was the big stunt that America could not win Indeed the most striking moment was that the Americans with 5-3 powerplay and did not manage to exploit this then it became 5 against 5 again and just before time it became two against two with overtime reached. You should have expected America to score at least one goal with a 5 versus 3 that would bring the score to 3 versus 1 and that would have been the end of the game. I don't think there is a team Canada can beat that anymore. This Slovakia doesn't stand a chance against Canada. Even America went 4-2 against Canada in the group.
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Hey, guys, where are you? Olympics isn't over yet. Time to summarize what happned today.
In hockey, Slovakia made biggest surprise by beating USA. In 3rd period with less than 1 minute remaining they made score 2:2, send game to overtime and then to penalties. It was enough for them to score one penalty to win game. Russia had unexpected difficult game against Denmakr, butthey won it 3:1. Finland had no problems against Switzerland and won 5:1. 2 of their goals were scored to empty net. Sweden in very nervous game managed to beat Canada 2:0. So, we have all-European semifinals between Finalnd - Slovakia and Russia - Sweden.
Tomorrow there is women hockey final between main powerhouses USA and Canada.
Speed skating legen from Nentherlands Ireen Wust won her 13th her medal in winter Olympics and reached Ole Einar Bjoerndalen by total number of medals.
In women biathlon relay, Sweden won first ever golden medal, Russia were 2nd, Germany 3rd. Favorites Norway were just 4th after Tiril Eckhoff had disaster in shooting.
In skiing classic team sprint gold was surprisingly taken by Germany women team, while in men competition Norway dominate again.
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